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Re: Cap 369th division of the 24th infantry

Carrie,

I'm not sure exactly what it is that you are looking for. I have not yet seen the new Kong film, so I am not aware of the exact cap to which you refer.

What is confusing me is the unit designation you mention. There has never been a 369th Division in the US Army. There is, however, a 24th Division which was formed in Hawaii in the 1920s, but contained 100% white and native Hawiian personnel until 1951 or so. Also, in the US Army regiments are contained in divisions, not the other way around.

The 24th and/or 369th Infantry regiments are, I suspect, who you are actually seeking. Both were comprised of black enlisted personnel under command of primarily white officers. The 24th were Regular Army and stationed in Arizona at the time when the film takes place. the 369th were New York National Guard with their armory located in Harlem.

Problem is, I am totally unaware any peice of headgear which is unique to either of those two regiments. As far as I've ever seen both wore the standard regulation headgear as issued to the entirety of the army.

In the timeframe of the film (early 1930s) both would have been issued with: M-1926 visored dress caps in olive drab wool and/or khaki cotton twill; campaign (Smokey the Bear) hats with infantry branch of service cord and regimental distinguishing insignia; M-1917A1 'Kelley' helmets (WW1 style shell with leather and aluminum liner and web chin strap), or WW1 leftover M-1917s; and blue denim fatigue caps (similar to what JJ wore on the TV show 'Good Times'). All of these are fairly readily available from a number of sources.

Beyond that I'm afraid you may well have fallen victim to a bad case of Hollywood fakery. As the producer character in the Alan Alda film 'Sweet Liberty' said "We're here to make a movie NOT a documentary!" Movie people like to play fast and loose when it comes to historical acuracy and authenticity.

Hope this is of some help to you.

Best regards,

Jim Ball

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