Thanks again for that new information about Edward and Margaret Manzilla. I missed the reference in which you found their son Otto h. aged 5 living with them in OH. Was that also in the 1870 census?

Many many thanks again,
(I just saw your replies today, despite the fact that I thought I'd set an alert on this thread. I must have done something wrong. I wonder if you would mind emailing me directly if you reply further, please? I'm at catalan_athens@yahoo.com -thanks again)

-love, peace, and Universal Health Care for ALL,
Shira