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Re: Surprising Results from DNA
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Anita,

My Y-dna is also K2 and comes out of Morocco. Berber and Fulbe. It was a surprise for me to find out it was not Spanish (I am Puerto Rican). I matched with about 30 people there. Suddenly, upon finding out, ALL my family history seemed to make sense. My dad carried some odd rituals that, in retrospect, are Muslim. To a greater degree, I sort of carry some of those religious ideals myself. My grandpa had more than one female, lol, how Fulani can you get?! :-)

You mentioned South Carolina. How is that "native"?? Native American? As far as I know, the Fulani- who are something like 10% of the African gene pool in the U.S.- have their origins in the middle east and, later on, north Africa. Also, L1b... one of the lineages on my mom's side (my direct line THROUGH her is C) comes from the Fulani. Boy... these folks really got around. :-)

Puerto Ricans, or I should say... MY family used to constantly use the term "Fulano de tal" or "Fulana de tal"... which is like saying "John Doe" or "Jane Doe". The term's usage is when one wants to refer to some anonymous person... like the enslaved Africans who had no names and were considered property. The part that says "de tal" is like saying "who belongs to (or like saying 'nobody's child')". This seems a clear reflection of, not only slavery, but also a people who live a nomadic life. I did several lines... 2 with me and 1 with a cousin. One of those lines, L1b, ties up our oral history. Hacienda life was the norm and all my mom's family come from that. They "worked" on a coffee plantation their entire lives (before that they were enslaved) and out traditions are VERY African.

I am like really fair skinned with non-European-ish features somewhat (I've had to explain my "race" my entire life to so many people... as if I even knew what that WAS, lol), but my dad was high yellow... and HIS dad was like a light to med. brown complexion. I assumed that his features might be Native American. They were not. So much for being called "Spanish", lol.

As I stated above, my mom is a C (from the Amazon Basin) and L1b (again Fulani). The mixing there was interesting because we have a strong cultural history that points to Taino and Fulani. What we ate, how we ate, what we liked, what we wore, esp. the headwraps... which I thought was just something with a more practical origin... turned out to be African. The Taino presence was extremely strong and supports the fact that our maternal lineage carried the children of African men (in other parts of the island... the Taino carried the children of Spanish/Moorish men). This, to me, strengthens the idea that IN Puerto Rico, the Taino DNA element represents the spinal column of the entire society and everyone else just plugged into THAT.

If I couldn't explain my race in the past, this surely doesn't help, lol. I am extremely happy that I can now say that THESE beautiful African and Amazonian people are MY people. As an Orisha practitioner (my godmother, Denise Oliver-Velez, introduced me to all this genealogy stuff), I can now call my egun by name. I think that is soooo cool.

Ali

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