2013-06-25 • Cartwright Bible
khathu: hello vkn
vkn: Howdy Khathu Hope all is well with you
Seventies: Hi y'all
vkn: Howdy Seventies Hope all is well with you
Seventies: I'm doing ok
vkn: and that's good there is a public official in DeKalb County GA named Burwell Ellis seventies
khathu: Hello Seventies
Seventies: hello khathu :}
vkn: Just here for a few
Seventies: What's going on with you today ms vkn?
vkn: Just finalizing family projects so whoever next can continue or change direction
Seventies: Ah okay... reunion time huh? Speaking of reunions... We are tossing around the idea of the Callins folks getting together in Alabama in a couple years.
khathu: Hello Selma
vkn: We have a group who dines on Sunday's No real reunion seventies
Seventies: ok Sunday dinners. nice. Hi Selma!
Selma: Good Tuesday afternoon Khathu, seventies and vkn
vkn: howdy Selma hope you are well
Seventies: hi alt....
Selma: Ah..I was wondering where Grumpy No. 1 was..
vkn: Howdy Alt hope you are well
alt: hello all .... khathu, Selma, Seventies & vkn
Selma: Afternoon daviss
alt: & daviss
Seventies: hi daviss.. what y'all coordinated to come in at the same time alt, daviss and Selma? lol
daviss: uh, am I sleeping still lol
Selma: Its a plot seventies.. LOL
khathu: Hello alt and daviss
Seventies: lol clearly... lol
vkn: Howdy Daviss hope you are well Nice pics you are posting
daviss: Hi alt, khathu, Selma Seventies and vkn!!! thanks vkn
Seventies: Any people here who have done a long distance reunion? Ah i'll post in the family reunion forum on Afrigeneas.
vkn: That bow is a beau daviss
daviss: lol lol vkn
alt: what's a 'long distance' reunion? planning, strategy, reservations????
daviss: my Texas cousins are doing that now Seventies for Atlanta's reunion
Seventies: All of the above alt. Contracts would have to be in order, etc. etc. We do have a few feet on the ground in AL, but not many.
alt: okay, in that case, not me Seventies
Seventies: daviss, that worked out for y'all. Let me know.
daviss: We are all set to go 3rd week of July seventies
Seventies: Let me know how it goes AFTER the reunion happens... lol You know how it is.. lol
Selma: LOL Do you have folks on the ground in Atlanta daviss..why was Atlanta chosen
daviss: They have done it on more than a few occasions Seventies.. The last one we went to was a blast
Seventies: I think one of the challenges for family reunions is getting people excited to come. The marketing of it all. An aspect often overlooked. You wanna have some strategies to get the family excited about spending their money and spending time together.
daviss: I do have a nephew and his wife are on the ground. The one thing that was changed was the hotel...The Tx folks picked one that was too far out
Seventies: that is good.
daviss: Now we have one that is closer to the airport
khathu: I finally received copies of the Cartwright Bible
Selma: Location..location is a key
Seventies: and. . . ???
daviss: Other than that seventies we are good to go
khathu: The information filled in some gaps I had
Seventies: ok daviss. khathu, what were you able to get from the bible?
khathu: Actual birth, marriage, and dates of death The wife full name and the names of all of Rev. Cartwrights children
Selma: Who recorded the info Khathu
Seventies: so you struck gold. excellent.
khathu: the Bible was published in 1828. The first entry was 1783 and the last was 1854
alt: what are the 'inclusive" dates of the Cartwright children? from when to when?
Seventies: brb y'all.
alt: okay, i see khathu
khathu: @alt 1802-1824
daviss: should the publish date be 1783 khathu?
alt: okay, the bible was published/produced in 1828 ... and the earliest date recorded was 1783 and it was recorded ?????
khathu: 1783 is the year of Rev. Cartwright's birth. The Bible was published in 1828. It was most likely given to him by the United Methodist Church
vkn: prolly so
khathu: Since they were the publisher of the Bible and it is around the same time he was ordained by the United Methodist Baltimore Conference
alt: okay... so Rev. Cartwright stared entering data ca 1828 by recording his birth date as 1783.
khathu: I really can't say who entered the information
alt: and probably all of the dates prior to 1828. regardless of the who, what & when .. you have a treasure!!!!!!!
khathu: What I can say is that the Bible was held by the youngest daughter for a time period since the info on the 3rd generation pertains solely to her
daviss: isn't that the truth
alt: you have copies of pages from the bible??? not copies of the bible, right???
khathu: I am going to the Baltimore Conference Archives on Friday to gather information on Cartwright's activities within the United Methodist Church I have digital copies of the Bible
alt: right... still a treasure!!!!!!!
Selma: Maybe you will find something that he actually "wrote" and you can compare handwriting
khathu: hopefully the birth dates are matches up with the other documentation I have located on the family.
alt: now this is the United Methodist & not the Methodist Episcopal, if I'm understanding correctly.
khathu: United Methodist
daviss: Well any comments on the Supreme Court ruling this morning?
khathu: On my own line I have been able to finally locate the mother of one of my gg grandmothers
alt: refresh my memory.. this is the African/Colored Methodist church located in G'Town?
khathu: Mt. Zion Methodist United Church in Georgetown
alt: wonderful khathu, how were you able to locate that information? Okay khathu...
khathu: I had to basically research the entire community and do a process of elimination
alt: ah so... good ole "cluster research" LOL LOL
khathu: the ages threw me off. Mary Jackson was born around 1860 in Rapides Parish, Louisiana She got married to Douglas Crawford in Avoyelles Parish 1876. I am able to locate only one Mary Jackson within the surrounding areas in the 1870 Census. However, this Mary Jackson is listed as being born in 1865 She is living in the household with a Celeste (39), Corrine (23), Ceasar (7), Ella (6 mos.)
alt: I swear to "cluster research" that's why I have 23K folks in my database.. I keep everything that is even remotely connected to ancestors at particular times in particular places.
khathu: I have 10K myself
alt: you're getting there khathu LOL LOL
Selma: Do you think her age was recorded incorrectly
khathu: Yes, I think the age was listed incorrectly, especially after tracing the individuals in household through the 1900
Selma: Actually it has been my observations that woman like to "shave" a couple of years off.. LOL
alt: naw Selma, lol lol
khathu: in addition, Mary named her first child Ella
Selma: When we did the 2010..I reminded the women in my genealogy group not to LIE about their age..(some already had)
khathu: And looking at the community Ella wasn't a very common name especially among African Americans I am currently missing the identities of 8 ggg grandparents - one on my paternal side and 7 and my maternal side Unfortunately, half of them will remain unknown
alt: what time period are you into with ggg grandparents khathu?
khathu: Before 1830 Some of them are ggg grandfathers
alt: okay, that's a rough time period for US ... Enslaved or FPOC.
khathu: mother's baby daddy's maybe
Selma: Folks have to run..Khathu come back and let us know what you find at the Archives
khathu: Will do
Selma: Have a great day
vkn: good sharing khathu
khathu: thanks vkn two of them i am holding out hope on locating. the other ones i think are lost causes
alt: theat's the gg grandparent generation for me khathu..... I have them and the ggg grandparents on the materanl lines only because they were FPOC.... I'm woefully lacking information on as near as my great-grandparents on my paternal lines I need 'big time' help on slave research for my paternal lines from the 1850's back.
vkn: what is the plan for starters alt
daviss: ok back
khathu: slave research can be a real pain
daviss: are your paternal lines in Ohio also alt ?
alt: just keep plugging away vkn.. researching NC, Edgecombe Co. in particular and KY, Grant & Kenton counties for records in the 1850 and earlier time frame.
vkn: sounds good alt
alt: No daviss... I'm looking at NC, KY and then Indiana before they get to Ohio.
daviss: oh so your gg dad was a North Carolinian alt, so was mine
vkn: besides all question do not require an answer
alt: yep davis in the Tarboro area near Princeville in Edgecombe County, NC
alt: Oops, dropped an "s' sorry bout that daviss LOL LOL
khathu: enjoy the rest of the day everyone.
vkn: take all care
alt: must be quittin time?
daviss: come on alt lets go and leave seventies to put everything up
alt: okay lol lol
daviss: lol bye
Seventies: ah huh daviss, see now I was going to help you with Mar..... LOL Ooops gotta run!