2012-12-21 • More on Probate
vkn: Howdy Mr Alt
alt: talking with a california cousin
vkn: okies I am in and out of the room
alt: still talking
vkn: Not a prob. Learn all you can from kin
Khathu: hello alt and vkn
alt: hi Khathu hello selma
Selma: Good Friday afternoon alt, Khathu and vk vkn
Khathu: Hello Selma I finished transcribing the probate records for the Estate of John R. Dorsey
alt: is it starting to make sense Khathu?
Khathu: the only activity on the involving the estate is that the will was admitted into probate so I need to find out why no other activity occurred
alt: ok ya, it was probated, now the question is was it executed?
Selma: Would there be info on the status of the will re: probate in Court Minutes Alt..did you go to BBenn talk last night..I tried but fell asleep
vkn: Howdy to all. I am in an out of the room
alt: I just listened this morning.. very interesting
Selma: Will have to go back and listen Did she have a good crowd? Oh you don't know.. lOL
alt: it is/was a great program.
vkn: I too fell asleep and only heard about ten minutes of talk
alt: dunno, I listened this morning
vkn: The counter showed 31 people
Khathu: so how will i determine if the will was executed?
vkn: Did she speak to estates alt? I will listen later
Khathu: court records are a brand new territory for me
Selma: What is the time period Khathu
Khathu: late 1880s
vkn: Sounds like time to do a line by line
Selma: You might want to take a look at the Court Minutes..or whatever they call it in that area
Khathu: I have examined the court minutes up to 1901 and have not located any activity on the case
Selma: Ummm Jeez that sounds like a question to ask the woman who spoke last night on BBenn's show
vkn: Consider writing the court asking for outcome etc
Khathu: I have reached out to the genealogical and historical societies of the county for some answers on probate records
Selma: Was land distributed..do you found heirs owning property that was in the will
alt: yes she did vkn, it was a far ranging discussion on blacks during the pre-civil war period as relates to property
Khathu: I located the heirs paying taxes on the property after the death of their father
alt: that's a key Khathu, the Will was probated as you know, but was it ever 'executed'?
vkn: Isn't a yearly accounting required by the court
Selma: As it relates to "blacks" being property or owning property
alt: being property and she later got into a discussion of blacks owning property Selma she cited some great examples from the Freedman's bureau
Khathu: @alt that is the question I am trying to answer
vkn: Alt all I heard was the last few minutes and sounded like an apology for slavery. Mind you I was listening out of context
Selma: Apologizing how?
alt: she was 'aplogizing', in general,for her ancestors who were slave owners vkn
Khathu: In Texas all of the probate activitiy are listed in the minutes and since I am unable to locate anything I must assume that it wasn't
vkn: that her ancestors were owners
alt: right some of her ancestors Khathu ....if executed there should be court records as to who received what & when and that information should be a part of the estate papers.
vkn: Final accounting could have been in another state
alt: this is what I'm running into with my recent find.... the 50 pages I referenced are the estate papers and the Will is just one document in those papers.
vkn: alt you have the actual documents already?
alt: no vkn, but this is what the archivist informed me of what was in the 'estate papers' ... it wasn't just the Will.
Khathu: At this point I don't think it was executed, now I need to find out why?
vkn: I see
Selma: The case I referred to yesterday..the family members fought and was taken to a higher court in another county..still have to get those records
vkn: The executor may have failed and another was not appointed
alt: I'm hoping the 'papers' give other clues as to his life style, etc in California during the last 10 years or so of his life (1860-1871)
Khathu: we have early dismissal here, so I will talk to you all later
alt: Selma & vkn .. you will find bbenn's show last nite to be very informative!!!!!!
vkn: I will listen while scanning today
Selma: I will try to listen this evening..been trying to finish up Xmas stuff
alt: I wish I had been there 'live' because I had a couple of questions for her
Selma: I see the NRA is talking about arming the country
vkn: I did see that daviss was in the room
alt: ain't that ridulous!!!!
Selma: It took them a whole WEEK to come up with that
vkn: Selma they the nra is nuts but some of the discussion made sense
alt: let a 'mass' of blacks become NRA members and watch how quickly they back off of 'everyone' being armed LOL LOL
Selma: Didn't hear..been running around LOL
vkn: I worry about the greed based people selling backpacks that are bullet proofed
Selma: Me too vkn..I saw that
alt: I think it is going to become more serious & dangerous before it gets better. re: the gun control argument
Selma: Well folks..on that somber note...let me run
vkn: Seeks a profit in whatever situation
alt: later Selma
alt: that's BIG vkn .. greed & profit
Selma: Bye folks..have a great day, hopefully will talk to you before Xmas
vkn: mail bout family finder alt I sent you a mail
alt: okay vkn.looking forward to it
vkn: okies over and out