vkn: Good Mprning JHonra JHONORA and how are you this morning I am in and out so not to mind me I will return shortly
jhonora: Good Morning vkn! Sorry, I was away for a moment
Seventies: Hello jhonora and vkn
vkn: Howdy Seventies
Seventies: What is good with everyone?
vkn: I think JHonora is sleeping and how is seventies
Seventies: I'm doing good. Hello alt How are you vkn, alt?
vkn: Howdy alt and how thee be
alt: morning, jhonora, Seventies & vkn... Happy Memorial Day weekend to y'all
vkn: and same backatcha
alt: I be's fine vkn... how be's thee?
vkn: Me be coping by da hardest lol
Seventies: vkn, do you know anything about Toombs county, GA? Is that considered Gullah? I am finding people all over the place! lol
vkn: Not sure about Toombs will need to look at map to see if its low country
alt: great Seventies!!!!
Seventies: Its like south GA... This is for my sons line.
vkn: If its souteast then its prolly Gullah what is county sest seat
Seventies: Lyons, GA
vkn: oops again GA has 252 counties
alt: WOW!!!! I didn't realize Ga had that many counties.
Seventies: Me either.. I wonder if TX has that many counties.
vkn: My brain image mechanisim is malfunctioning so me not seeing Lyons or Toombs
alt: not sure, but I know TX is in the 200+ number for counties
Seventies: Here's the county map vkn... http://geology.com/county-map/georgia.shtml And TX is much larger than GA
vkn: MUCH but prolly not as politico lol
Seventies: vkn, if you look down towards the coast. lol
alt: exactly vkn, KY has almost 200 counties, but each is relatively small in land mass.
Seventies: Ah I see that GA has a Lanier county. What a surprise! lol
vkn: looking coastal and eastward
Seventies: If you see Liberty Co, go upwards Its right next to Tattnall Co. See it?
vkn: yje map is so pretty e the
Seventies: yes it is... lol Toombs is orange I love their maps...
vkn: ahhhhh I see
Seventies: Ok, county seat is Lyons. That would be too far away to be considered low country/Gullah right?
vkn: Right in my opinion
Seventies: ok thanks!
alt: Seventies, I think lots of GA folks, all over the State may have migrated from Gullah country in SC... My ex father-in-law's family from Hancock Co. GA had SC origins from around Spartansburg, SC.
Seventies: ok... Hancock County is where my 5th great grandmother came from during slavery to Alabama
alt: and Bennie McRae's folks from around Selma, AL came threre from SC.
jhonora: One of my lines has ties to Greene Co, GA
alt: is that right Seventies, my ex father-in-law was from Sparta,Hancock co., GA.
Seventies: I notice that as well alt. My Mixons came to Autauga from SC
vkn: Where to in Alabama seventies? and I would agree with your migration theory alt
Seventies: Lots of migration from SC/NC to Alabam vkn, black belt region Dallas, Autauga, Wilcox, Perry etc
vkn: Yes seventies following the Federal highway
Seventies: Yep alt... brought to AL by Baxter Smith All of that black fertile land and timber is probably what attracted them to the area.
alt: is that right jhonora... Greene Co., GA.... anywhere near Oconee (sp) in Greene Co., GA?
Seventies: hey jhonora
jhonora: I'm noot sue
Seventies: Now see, I didn't know that Bennie had roots in Dallas Co.
jhonora: not sure, we have land records, but I never checked the geography
vkn: Seventies I thought you were also looking in Floyd/Rome GA
Seventies: I thought he was born further up north like near B'ham No, we had a reunion there last year in Rome, GA
jhonora: The family names connected are Turner and Love, eventually moved to Black Belt of Ala., Choctaw/Marengo counties
alt: Seventies, the TV clip on Len Cannon in Houston, you say he used to be in NYC.... His mother, Carolyn Wheat is from in Troy, Ohio. I know her & her family very well.
vkn: ahhhhhh I jumped to the wrong conclusion lol
Seventies: I saw that alt.. couldn't get the doggone video to ever play. But I knew you'd be on that.. :}
alt: His brother (Bennie) and family are still in Alabama Seventies
Seventies: Yes he used to news anchor in NYC... I had no idea of his ohio roots. Wow! See I have to say alt you know everything.. lol
alt: after VA, all roads lead to/from Ohio LOL LOL
Seventies: lol lol
vkn: lol lol
Seventies: Selma is a sleepy slow like city.
alt: even vkn spent her time in Ohio LOL LOL
vkn: sure did
alt: vkn spent some time hanging out at the 502 club, or five-oh-duece, listening to Nancy Wilson
vkn: and my Alabama peeps migrated to Cleveland lol you can write the story alt lol
Seventies: My Alabama peeps moved to Detroit One to Ohio... Many also to NY
alt: I'm putting yo' bitness in da street vkn LOL LOL LOL
Seventies: lol you all are a mess... lol
vkn: lol lol lol you goys permission gots
Seventies: Irita needs to come back on here. I would love to talk to her about the Daltons and Sheltons.
alt: Anita's grnadmother is one of the Dalton's form SE Ohio
Seventies: I found the Daltons living right around the corner from my grandmother and grandfather in the 1940 census. And you know the HOH great grands were born in Detroit Turns out that one of those great grands is the parent of my cousin Philip the HOH was a Mixon.. lol but this is on my Smith line.. lol Lots of intermarrying between families in the County of Dallas, AL lol
vkn: All over Seventies First cousins getting married
alt: Seventies, the Dalton's are one of those families in the news lately on the DNA discussions along with the Goins/Goings folks.
Seventies: I'm not sure of the origins of the Dalton's alt...all I know is how they connect into the Smith superfamily.. That's what we should start calling these large families, like yours alt, Superfamiles... :} Hey and mine too... lol
vkn: better use small s seventies
Seventies: oops lol
alt: Anita's Dalton's have been researched back to VA in the 1780', then to WV and finally into Ohio in the early 1800's.
vkn: Super and Suber are surnames
Seventies: wow. I guess any word can be a surname.. lol
Seventies: alt, did they ever migrate to Michigan with the surname Dalton? Or was their last stop Ohio?
alt: her immediate Dalton family stopped in Ohio as far as I know Seventies
Seventies: ok I found Frank Mixon in Detroit in 1930 this morning just general searching. I was surprised.
alt: but many from that area in SE Ohio went to Michigan, like Irita's folks.
Seventies: Frank is a son of Alec and Elen Mixon, uncle of my great grandmother Ellen Lanier OK
vkn: So who is Mixon to you seventies
Seventies: My father's paternal grandmother was Ellen Mixon-Lanier. Frank would've been my gg granduncle
vkn: I knew Mixon s in Daytona Beach FL about 1948
alt: once you start follwoing the siblings of your ancestor's and their marriages and offspring you'll be all over the place Seventies .. My case is somewhat proof of that LOL lOL
Seventies: Yes indeed.. as with my Washington family.. woo they couldn't stay put! lol
alt: and I think Irita is up to something like 27,000 folks in her database.
Seventies: I'm only right now looking at great grandparents....
vkn: YES Alt your family connects with my Rufus BELL line
Seventies: vkn, I figured that there would be some Mixons in FL. I do know that there are some Callen/Callins is FL that may be related to me.
alt: no doubt Seventies
Seventies: vkn, did you see the response to the Bell family query from 2001?
vkn: also KILLINS seventies in FL
alt: Is that right vkn .... you and I be's related.. at least thru marraiges of cousins to cousins
Seventies: Hadn't looked at that spelling. vkn within one family, direct descendants of George and Lucy, Callen is spelled Callins/Callen and Callines. I am struggling with untangling that alone.
vkn: alt who was the Killins researcher who was with is for so long Camille? she is now deceased
alt: a stretch Seventies, but with that surname you might even have some COLLINS throwni in there LOL
Seventies: I think that the 's' came into play when they started referring to themselves a group.
alt: I think so vkn ..Camille
vkn: Her slave owning peeps were founders of Univ of GA
Seventies: screen froze. alt, lol I don't need another surname spelling.. lol
alt: I remember Camille, she was a regular contributor to AfriGeneas and a GOOD one!!!!!
Seventies: I remember that you mentioned her a few years ago vkn
vkn: Well it is prolly another stretch but could also include KEELINGS
Seventies: Hi Daviss. You're up! :}
vkn: She was excellent alt
alt: hello Daviss, glad you could join us LOL LOL
Daviss: hello there alt, seventies and vkn!!
Seventies: Is Camille deceased?
vkn: Yes she is seventies
alt: I/we think so
Seventies: ah okay
vkn: Howdy doody Daviss
Daviss: lol yes I am up and boy do I feel like going back to sleep
Seventies: Coffee time.. lol I had two A.Sours last night... and I think I made them wrong. We were talking about GA and AL family this morning Daviss. And your favorite county Autauga, Al
alt: our AAGGMV meeting had a very good presentation on the value and types of information found in Obits & Death Notices ... not only clues to the ancestors, but how to possibly find living relatives.
Daviss: oh really seventies, you mean ataunga :?
Seventies: alt, the information about recent deaths? Or just in general. Only if you live in Melanasia Daviss.. lol
alt: obits in general Seventies
Seventies: Ok. I still browse them from time to time. I found some good information recently on a cousin, Gabriel Barnes who died in 2005. Gave names and locations for his siblings.
Daviss: Oh my, just reading back and saw the name Camille. So wierd that I was going through my email looking for soemthing she had sent me eons and eons ago
alt: using obits in conjuction with Ancestry/Familysearch/Census and other online information
vkn: Obits can also lead one astray was that discussed alt
Seventies: I've experienced that too. I think especially when you're dealing with half-siblings.
alt: yes it was vkn, the inaccuracy & misinformation found in Obits.
Seventies: Or other relatives who would be close, but have since left the area.
Daviss: Did you give the presentation alt
alt: for Obits .. often time a females married name may be to a 2nd or 3rd husband. no I didn't Daviss
vkn: Wow Daviss Camille and I co researched Baldwin County GA and the FL panhandle also Tskge
Daviss: shoot lol I was gonna ask for your notes etc lol
Seventies: I didn't know that alt.. Will add that to my tip box
vkn: alt would you be willing to post a summary of the tips shared
Seventies: My aunt Ruby Alexander was the step-daughter of my grandfather, but on the Obit he is listed as her father. That is going to be confusing for someone whoever reads it.
alt: sure can vkn.. I can post a copy of one ot the handouts that had 5 areas of Obit consideration.
vkn: Then there is the his children, her children and their children listed in obits
Seventies: Honestly, if there was a time to tell the truth about parentage then would be a good time IMO
vkn: Talk about confusion
Seventies: Yes and favorite nieces and nephews etc
vkn: and "special friend" what means that
Seventies: The person they were shacking up with.. lol lol
vkn: bad bad seventies
Daviss: wish they would use maiden names also for the women on the obits
Seventies: Well. . . am I telling the truth. Some do.
alt: like common law or live-in in today's society vkn .. special friend, not married to
Seventies: But there is no obituary format...from what I can tell.
vkn: well shacking is no longer viable seventies
Daviss: I bet genealogist have a special format lol
vkn: well shacking is no longer viable seventies it is now called partner
Daviss: heyyyyyy alt you heaqr that lol lol
Seventies: Also, a long time boyfriend or girlfriend
alt: vkn, being PC on us Seventies LOL LOL
Seventies: I've never seen lol lol right alt!
Daviss: I better quit calling you partner lol
vkn: well ther are the public service death notice and there is the commercial/paid for obit
Seventies: I've never seen partner on an obit for AAs... lol
alt: Yeah Daviss, folks will start to wonder about us LOL LOL... especailly when you mention us being together in Ft. Wayne LOL LOL LOL
Daviss: long time companion' lol lol
vkn: lol lol lol lol lol lol
Seventies: lol lol lol
alt: but we'll never tell, huh Daviss? LOL LOL LOL
Seventies: I have to give it to the Natchez Democrat online. They keep me informed of all the deaths in the Miss-Lou area. I love browsing through their obit section. ah huh... alright now. lol
Daviss: nope alt lol thats good seventies, I have Marshall News Messenger and the Navasota paper I wish navasota would use pictures though
Seventies: I tried getting one for Selma, AL but they go through a pay obit service for people.
Daviss: They now charge a arm and a leg to put a picture in now
Seventies: My family has some nice obits. Are there any newspapers who offer free obits?
alt: breat Seventies, a well written and informative obit shows how much imformation about an individual has been shared with other family members.
Seventies: Then mine is going to be really really short and confusing.
vkn: Oh yes alt that BELL response from 2001 connected to a great uncle of mine Stephen BELL of Polk County GA Brother to my maternal grandfather, Richard BELL who is father to Rufus BELL to whom your children are connected alt
Seventies: Well I may as well write one up ahead of time. lol
alt: okay vkn.. the BELL connection is thru Talladega and the collateral connections to the Embrys, etc.
vkn: yes alt
alt: ah so, gotcha now vkn
Daviss: ok back
Daviss: yes!!! lonely chat last night
vkn: I think I will do the same daviss
Daviss: only me and bbenn she is back from her roadtrip
vkn: I came in as y'all were leaving daviss
alt: that's another thought, when you add the connections you may have thru the family's of your children's spouses (grandchildren/great-grandchildren) you end up realted to 1/2 of th world LOL LOL
vkn: Being your own granmaw lol
Seventies: Gotta love America. lol
alt: and the spouses and the families of your ancestor's siblings ... WOW!!!!!
Seventies: So now we know where the terms 'kissing cousins' originated on this side of the world.. lol
vkn: kith and kin
Daviss: I almost kissed a cousin lol
alt: yep vkn, kith & kin
vkn: hit be ok daviss
alt: I tried to Daviss lol lol lol
Seventies: lol Daviss, we were talking about that last week with the family and same thing happened to one of my cousins in MS. She was bringing him home to meet the family and the guy said "Girl why did you bring me over to Uncle Will's house!!!"
vkn: Lots of double first cousins lol
Daviss: yep, I was told that when I took him to church to meet my aunt lol
Seventies: Me too. my grandfather's brother married my grandmother's sister... oh man So my mom's first cousins are actually probably her genetic sisters... lol Two of them
vkn: Its getting deep y'all
Daviss: my aunt and uncle are not related but were raised in the same household since babies married each other
Seventies: And the more rural the location your family came from, the more likely this is to have happened in your family.
Daviss: each was bought into a marriage
vkn: Well what is the relation of FDR to Eleanor ?
Seventies: 3rd cousins I believe
Daviss: I thought they were closer than that
vkn: but not rural seventirs LOL
Seventies: Some families encourage intramarrying...
vkn: I think they are daviss and the why of his mother protesting
alt: tri-racial isolates Seventies
vkn: lol leave it to alt for the glossary
Seventies: Oh they were 5th cousins once removed... so they say, but if they had other cousins who intermarried, they could be closer relations alt, well some creole families must be tri-racially isolated... http://www.gwu.edu/~erpapers/teachinger/q-and-a/q6.cfm about the FDR genealogy
alt: no doubt Seventies
vkn: Money married money without regards to the gene pool lol
Seventies: I still don't get the tri-racial isolates thing.
vkn: Seventies melungeons
Seventies: that's right vkn, since the sudanese monarchy...
Daviss: wonder why people fight over a woman marrying her best friends X boy friend but will only say OOOOOOOH when two cousins marry lol lol
Seventies: lol You make it sound backwards Daviss.. lol
Daviss: lol lol just asking 7
alt: I ain't got an answer for that Daviss
vkn: Naw!!!!! Heyyyy Selma
Seventies: Hello Selma
Daviss: hello Selma!!!
alt: that's withthe tri-racila/Melungeon aspect .. when two folks with the same surname, which may be unusal marry, then sumpin is happening.
Selma: Good Sunday morning folks..alt, daviss, seventies, vkn
alt: good afternon Ms. Selma
Selma: What is it you don't understand seventies..
vkn: Hope the roof is holding Selma
Seventies: I have to get going, I am going to make some Tiramisu, from scratch... Need some marscapone and ladyfingers.Ok see y'all later.
Selma: Hopefully vkn..although it is suppose to rain in NY.. Don't think they can do anything until Tuesday
alt: when you gonna start eating some real FOOD Seventies LOL
Daviss: hahahaha @ alt
alt: like poke chops and stuff Oops, Seventies is gone LOL
Daviss: oh man alt, I have not had a pork chop in months
Selma: Well you can still eat Pork Chops and Tiramisu for Dessert.. LOL
vkn: I have a question: Why do we use paper shredders and put so much personal stuff in the Cloud ?
Selma: I don't put stuff in the Cloud.. LOL
alt: shows ya how smaert we are, huh vkn?
Daviss: me either cause I aint that tecnical lol
Selma: I personally think putting medical records electroncially is a bad idea He*^ll they broke into the Pentagon website
vkn: Life is a bowl of oxymorons
Daviss: I have been hearing more and more Dr's are going to that Selma treating from the office
Selma: Oh within about 5 to 10 years I believe all will be..they will be forced to
alt: well you're 1/2 right vkn .. ain't sure about the "oxy" part LOL LOL
Daviss: is the cloud like dropbox?
Selma: Heck I don't even like the fact that I am on Facebook..I think I have less than 20 friends.. LOL Hopefully I friended you all ... LOL
Daviss: lol Selma
vkn: and now you can send all of your papers to a site where they will be organized and updated. Very scary
Selma: I agree vkn..I find that very scary
alt: Selma, an AfriGeneas friend from Indianpolis will be at the IGHR in B'ham with y'all... told her you would be there too.
Selma: But the Pandora's Box has been opened vkn..and there is no going back We will be nice alt..or try to be.. LOL
vkn: True Selma and we humans are lazy
alt: you'd better be Selma LOL
Selma: What class is she taking alt?
alt: I'm not sure Selma, she really didin't say.
vkn: Daviss dud that code/key work ? did
Selma: Folks...have to run, have a wonderful day..
Daviss: I have not checked my email today vkn I will let you know later bye Sel
alt: well ya'll gotta run.. Anita has the urge for some 'gaming' this afternoon, so we're off to the Casino.. take care.
Daviss: bye and good louck luck
vkn: oopds beem here a long time later daviss
Daviss: lol bye