2012-05-01 Fitzhugh • Bumpass • Bass
Selma: Evening family griot
Family Griot: Hi Selma. I was beginning to think no one was coming. Any new information from RG105?
Selma: To tell you the truth..I have not been looking at it lately..got some other things on my plate.. But plan to start again I need to get the stuff I already have organized..
Family Griot: ok hello jhonora
jhonora: Evening Selma, FamilyGriot
Selma: Evening jhonora
Family Griot: Yes I know the feeling
Selma: Very interesting document you posted..
jhonora: I know, surprised to see they felt comfortable using those terms for offical use
seraph1959: Evening folks
Family Griot: Hi seraph1959! Good to see you.
jhonora: Hi seraph1959
seraph1959: Good to be seen :-)
Family Griot: Yes indeed.
seraph1959: I hope you all are finding success stories.
Selma: Good heavens jhonora..why would you be suprised
seraph1959: Nothing new for me , just the usual suspects , exploring the 1940 census
Family Griot: trying. jhonora, have you ever heard the name Fitzhugh associated with any families in Natchez or your research in Louisiana?
jhonora: I've never heard that name, FamilyGriot
Family Griot: Its a name I came across on total accident. The family was apparently FPOC who lived in Natchez and the parents came from VA. Which is the surname of the another family of FPOCs out of VA
Selma: Find anything new in the 1940 seraph
Family Griot: It caught my attention because it was the surname on the marriage records I was transcribing. Hi Khathu
Khathu: hello everyone
Selma: Evening khathu..
AYWalton: Good evening all.
Family Griot: Hi AYWalton
AYWalton: howdy Family Griot, hey hey hey it's honoray!
Selma: Evening AY
seraph1959: hi AYW , Khathu
jhonora: Hey AYWalton
AYWalton: howdy khathu, Mizz Selma hey seraph1959
jhonora: FamilyGriot, I see several of them listed in the sexton's records for Natchez
Family Griot: ok
Selma: How goes the research Khathu?
AYWalton: I finally got to see Sunday's episode of the Gates program with Samuel Jackson, Condi Rice, and Ruth Simmons.
Family Griot: Khathu did you see there is a person Skip Mason who has some Boozer family from South Carolina
seraph1959: My screen froze
Khathu: it has been pretty good
Family Griot: This is on OurBlackAncestry on facebook.
AYWalton: Too much background time, but it was an ok program.
seraph1959: yes I have found my mom and a few others in the 1940 census
Khathu: I located my gg grandfather's sister and her family finally
AYWalton: Skip Mason either is or was the President of Alpha Phi Alpha.
Family Griot: Alright! oh really?
Khathu: No I didn't notice that Family Griot the discovery of my gg grandaunt leads me to believe that i might be kin to daviss
Family Griot: ok That would be interesting. . .
seraph1959: oh wow khathu (I want to be her cousin)
Selma: Have you told daviss yet Khathu?
AYWalton: He was just removed from his post. (Just read it on a twitter feed.)
seraph1959: so far 23and me tells us no
Family Griot: well you can be kin in spirit... :}
AYWalton: has anyone who has tested with 23andme gone through the process of uploading raw data? I get email request to do it, but have not done so.
seraph1959: I still call her cuz :-)
AYWalton: request = requests
Family Griot: No...
Khathu: no yet
seraph1959: AYW not yet , just still trying to understand it all
Khathu: i uploaded my data but i haven't gotten any response
AYWalton: some of it is only relevant for geneticists in my opinion. and they have us regular folks trying to engage in dialogue that produces no new genealogical data.
seraph1959: AYW did you see the info on Ruth Simmons? What would the percentages be for Asia for some one who is Native American?
AYWalton: fairly high since most readings that say Asian are really Native American. with some exceptions, of course.
seraph1959: mine is 7%
Khathu: mine is 3%
AYWalton: mine is 8%
Family Griot: mine is also 3%
Khathu: i need to run off to bed. talk to you all soon.
AYWalton: keeping in mind in many cases some of those native ancestors were also mixed with white.
Family Griot: good night Khathu
seraph1959: night Khathu
AYWalton: I have a 27% white mixture. even though the only part that shows is black. lol
Family Griot: my granddad was only 14%
Khathu: wow....i am only 15% good night
AYWalton: night khathu
seraph1959: my european is 32%
AYWalton: are you a Virginia based researcher, seraph?
seraph1959: I am in Tx , but a death cert says Virginia for 3rd great grand
AYWalton: I have also VA ancestors who are 3rd gr grandparents. (yes Selma!)
Selma: I will refrain from commenting
seraph1959: teehee wait for it
AYWalton: I heard you anyway!! ...and I saw you smiling and nodding and heard you mumbling "I told yall."
seraph1959: Selma you must copyright that statement
Family Griot: lol Selma
Selma: Between the end of the revolution and 1860 VA exported either by sale or with slave owners moving west and south..between 500,000 to 800,000 slaves..
jhonora: AY, did your VA ancestors come by way of MS?
AYWalton: No they were in TN, and then MS till after the war. And the formerly enslaved folks moved back to TN on their own, but not the same place.
seraph1959: I still have no clues for last slave owners
AYWalton: They moved to Memphis, but the older generation before that was in Maury County--central TN. But my gr. gr. grandmother's parents Martha and John were both born in Virginia. .....somewhere.........
Selma: Maybe more work and opportunties in Memphis?
AYWalton: I think so.
Family Griot: interesting AYWalton. I have MS people who went to Memphis. A collateral family.
AYWalton: Plus Amanda's daughter had already relocated there, and she went there to join her daughter around 1901.
Selma: What was going in in Memphis in that time frame
jhonora: I was just wondering if you were able to document how they arrive in the deep south from Va.
AYWalton: I think it was a city with offerings different from rural Mississippi.
Family Griot: However, they ended up coming back to Mississippi by 1900. The children were back and forward for a few decades.
AYWalton: it was a city--which meant no farm work, but more city jobs like laundry, washing, domestic jobs for the women.
Selma: Which was a step up in some ways
AYWalton: that is interesting, SoulChile.
Family Griot: This is the family of my great grandfather's older sisters. The Earls
AYWalton: the labor at least was not in the fields I guess.
seraph1959: Family Griot is 70's LOL hey you !!!
Family Griot: lol
jhonora: I did some research into the Bumpass family which went back and forth between Aberdeen, Ms and Nashville
Selma: Folks like to get fancy with muliple names seraph..to get us confused
Family Griot: lol sorry let me go 'change' lol
seraph1959: only one I know for sure is daviss and vicky
AYWalton: lol no need, SoulChile!
Seventies Soulchild: lol is this better seraph1959? :}
AYWalton: ahhh now she has on her regular clothes!
seraph1959: yes you were all fancy like in a ball gown in the other name LOL
Seventies Soulchild: I did wonder if the Earls had formerly been enslaved in Tennessee.
AYWalton: Tennessee has a vast history. and three distinct regions. Western, Middle, and Eastern
Seventies Soulchild: Yes, I noticed that there is a lot of back and forth between MS and TN and AL and TN
AYWalton: that AL TN movement is where my Bass line lived.
Seventies Soulchild: ok
AYWalton: Giles County sits right on top of Limestone County AL.
seraph1959: Have there ever been any shows which allowed the descendants of slaves and decendants of owners have a real comversation? Seems I have only seen akward meetings.
Seventies Soulchild: Yep
AYWalton: lots of soldiers from the 110th and 111th US Colored Infantry.
Seventies Soulchild: I hadn't seen any of that on TV or in 'real life'. Though many of the older people do know exactly who the descendants of the slave holders are .
seraph1959: slave owner descendants seem to always come bearing a token gift ...they hem and haw I ask my mom all the time , seems all she ever heard was "Elizabeth was sold away but she made it back after slavery"
Seventies Soulchild: That is the individual that Texas is doing the historical piece on?
seraph1959: of course I want names and dates :-)
Seventies Soulchild: Of Course! :}
seraph1959: Have not heard of that 70's do tell
AYWalton: well, going to run, folks. Took an antihistamine and it has made me sleepy. Have a good one.
Seventies Soulchild: I'm asking is Elizabeth the person that you posted some time ago about the state doing the historical exhibit on? Or do I have the wrong person?
seraph1959: no that is Celia she was free by 1830
Seventies Soulchild: ok
seraph1959: they are keeping that hush hush , even aksed me not to poke around ...oh ok ....roll eyes
Seventies Soulchild: Oh the only new news that I have is that my uncle Chester will be featured in a book chronicling blacks in Blount Co, TN
seraph1959: cool beans
Seventies Soulchild: Oops lol wrong uncle! Benjamin Washington is the uncle!
seraph1959: my goals are to get as much information together in one place and then send it everywhere
Seventies Soulchild: I spoke to the author who does AA genealogy for Blount Co, TN and she lived down the street from him growing up. So I'm very excited to know what she knows about him.
seraph1959: that is a treasure!
Seventies Soulchild: ok seraph1959... that can be a big project. Is that what you plan on doing this summer? I plan on applying for jobs down in Houston. I'm ready to come back 'home' :}
seraph1959: life long project
Seventies Soulchild: Well you know during your down time.
seraph1959: yes part of the summer and retirement plan
Seventies Soulchild: oh okay.
Selma: I thought you were "home" where you are..
Seventies Soulchild: No indeed!
Seventies Soulchild: This is where I was raised, but oh no not home. hello Sadonya!
Selma: Folks..time for me to turn in....have a great evening..
Sadonya: hello everyone
Seventies Soulchild: you too Selma.
Sadonya: night Selma
Selma: Evening Sadonya..good night Sadonya
seraph1959: hello Sadonya how are ya!
Seventies Soulchild: Sadonya, I have some news for you...
Sadonya: hey cuz ltns
seraph1959: :-) Cuz it has been a while
Sadonya: really what what
seraph1959: ut oh
Sadonya: seraph1959 Seventies Soulchild and I have dna in common
Sadonya: did you take the 23and me test
seraph1959: I hope she comes back yes I did
Sadonya: what name are you using?
seraph1959: I am listed as Sharon Sutton
Sadonya: I will look for you
seraph1959: I shared with vicky and we did not match
Sadonya: I am using Sedalia Gaines
Sadonya: I do not understand it all Vicky and I do not match but we are a high precentage like Angela I wish I understood it more
seraph1959: I sent you an invite
seraph1959: Have you ventured into CA for the 1940 census?
Sadonya: yes found most of my folks
Sadonya: not sure if Uncle Jimmy was in LA or Riverside at that time
seraph1959: still looking for my San Antonio folks , found my country Hallettsville folks
Seventies Soulchild: I was totally kicked off had to reboot the browser and everything!
Sadonya: okay woe wow
Seventies Soulchild: I spoke to Shirley Carr-Clowney last week
Sadonya: welcome back CARR is one of my family names
Seventies Soulchild: She's with the Blount Co, TN History and Genealogy society We chatted momentarily. She is working on a book of notable AFrican Americans in Blount Co. TN and my uncle will be included in the book.
Sadonya: awesome wonder if the Garner's are included
Seventies Soulchild: She also told me that she grew up in the same neighborhood as he lived.
Sadonya: they were FPOCS
Seventies Soulchild: When I hear Garner I think of that "beloved" case. . . I also got a call from my cousin Wendy. Very excited about that! lol very quiet in here all of a sudden..
Sadonya: sorry just listening
Seventies Soulchild: Do you work with the Blount Co. researchers?
Sadonya: no I am doing a family tree for a lady here in Chattanooga and it turns out here people came from Blount co so I did research in that county
Seventies Soulchild: Any success with your research?
Sadonya: I also did research for a white women with family from there yes I got her family back to 1730
jhonora: Are any of you familiar with the name Cleveland from TN?
Sadonya: not sure what town
Seventies Soulchild: wow Sadonya. so is she one of the first families in the area?
Sadonya: we have a Cleveland, TN not far from here yes
Seventies Soulchild: Nice
Sadonya: family came from NC
Seventies Soulchild: ok
jhonora: I'm not sure, my g-g-grandmother was a Minerva Cleveland, who claimed to be "Blackfoot Cherokee" from TN
Seventies Soulchild: Could she have been Melougen? or however you spell that.
Sadonya: opps wow there were Cherokees in TN but no Blackfoot
jhonora: Could have been, she was in Thibodaux, La. by the time I see her in records
Sadonya: my ggg granmother was Jenny born in TN but was taken to OK with the Choctaws
seraph1959: night ladies and gentleman great seeing you all .
Sadonya: how that happened I do not know I see
Seventies Soulchild: night seraph1959
Sadonya: do you have a death record for her? jhonora
Seventies Soulchild: Was she sold to them? Or was she possibly enslaved by a Chocktaw family or individual? That is intersting Sadonya
Sadonya: she was enslaved by them and so were her children I have documentation
jhonora: Yes, it lists her dad as Jim Cleveland, native of Tn.
Sadonya: were they AA?
jhonora: That is fascinating Sadonya about Jenny
Seventies Soulchild: Did she ever come back to TN or did she stay out in OK?
jhonora: The Clevelands were black, she was in La., by at least 1870
Sadonya: went to Texas and then back to OK
Seventies Soulchild: ok OK hmmm
Sadonya: so it did not say where in TN they were have you looked up the slave owner?
jhonora: It didn't say where in TN. This side has always been a mystery'
Sadonya: you need a seatbelt tonight Seventies Soulchild
Seventies Soulchild: I think so.. lol
Sadonya: would you like me to look into it for you?
Seventies Soulchild: Maybe that's my sign. It's late and I barely slept last night...
Sadonya: oh bless your heart
jhonora: I would appreciate any tips and help, thanks!
Seventies Soulchild: Hopefully I'll see you soon Sadonya. Keep in touch and I will try to keep you abreast of this book. Sounds like its going to be interesting.
Sadonya: we have books in our library that are not online anywhere
Seventies Soulchild: jhonora, don't be a stranger :}
Sadonya: yes it does
jhonora: I won't be! lol
Seventies Soulchild: Y'all take care and have a good evening.
jhonora: Sadonya, what is your email, I'll send you what I have
Sadonya: it you email what you know I will see what I can dig up email@example.com
jhonora: Will do, thanks
Sadonya: my pleasure
jhonora: I'm signing off too, take care
Sadonya: have a good week