~WDYTYA

Start: 20:04:27
End: 21:00:39
Chatters: AYWalton, bbenn, evpace, keli1, Khathu, Nadasue, Selma, vkn

AYWalton: Greetings, Shelley!

keli1: hi, was'nt sure if anyone was showing up since it was a re-run

AYWalton: I know.

keli1: I love this one...but I heard that Lionel is in financial trouble, have you heard that?

AYWalton: there's Mark!

keli1: yes I just told mom that, lol

AYWalton: Volendever Towson what an interesting name.

keli1: I told her that is the guy doing the research on Ambrose

AYWalton: hello there, evpace.

keli1: yes it is, Hi Evpace

evpace: Howdy

keli1: this was a good one, actually in my mind, all of the shows have been good!

AYWalton: that's a major age difference.

evpace: Repeats are good for re-enforcement.

AYWalton: quite true.

keli1: sick on men/males in their laws so glad she left him

evpace: I have a 20 yr age difference in my history.

AYWalton: from two different worlds!

keli1: me too, 22 yrs, my grandparents but not 15 and 50, that is outright rape

AYWalton: age difference of 22 years? not in those days.

evpace: Is this the Mark Lowe of our chat.

AYWalton: yes it is the same guy. howdy khathu.

keli1: yes evpace it is

Khathu: Hello everyone

keli1: hi khathu!

AYWalton: I am anxious to know more about the group his gr. grandfather was in---the Knight of the Wise Men or something like that.

evpace: Does he live in Nashville?

AYWalton: Mark lives in Nashville, yes.

evpace: Mark that is or just a researcher for same?

AYWalton: I also think he works at the Archives. yes, Mark. not sure why they met at the Library, though.

evpace: Thanks Teacher.

AYWalton: lol

Khathu: isn't this a re-run

keli1: He does work at the archives

AYWalton: yes it is a re-run.

Khathu: with Lionel Richie okay

AYWalton: which is probably why the group is small.

Khathu: okay

keli1: I am still trying to obtain information on the Woodmen of the World group, the AA ones

AYWalton: they should digitize that directory.

keli1: oh this is the show that Jordan from UVA is on.

AYWalton: I have noticed that quite often they bring in historians when the presenter is black. interesting, this man is from Brown which is in Providence Rhode Island. Good school.

keli1: but his expertise is Fraternal Org so they flew him in, like they did Jordan and his wife, he said they were treated like royalty

AYWalton: too bad more genealogists of color are not emplyed by the programs. a benvolent organization for sure. that is their handbook!

keli1: so true...AY, just need to stay at it...I believe it will change as we become more VALUED!

evpace: Granny didnt stand a chance.

keli1: is Louis the one who married the 15 yr old and she divorced him, or did I lose track

evpace: Yes.

AYWalton: yes this is still about Louis. hello Nadasue!

keli1: I love the thought processes folks take on this journey Hi Renate

AYWalton: I think they are stretching it a bit calling the Knights Civil Rights activists, but I understand what they mean in terms of self reliance.

Nadasue: Hello everyone! Just got in. Looks like I've missed some good stuff.

AYWalton: how are you Nadasue??

Khathu: I agree AYWalton

AYWalton: this is the re-run of the Lionel Ritchie episode.

Nadasue: Doing well, thanks. You?

AYWalton: which was a good episode, though. fine thanks.

Nadasue: Oh...lol. Silly me. I forgot we'd seen this one before. I just turned on the tv and was thinking, "Oh, the Knights of the Wisemen, again!"

AYWalton: lol I see that there is an electronic version of the handbook on the Knights online through New York Public Library. he was lucky though to have ties to a man with a well documented history. I think this man Louis was also a Civil War soldier, wasn't he?

Nadasue: So true, AYWalton. Something that's really missing in MY family!

keli1: and he was 50 when he married a 15 yr old, yea he is something else

evpace: The treasurer suceeded in destroying a vital organization and its leadership.

keli1: yep, he stole the money!

AYWalton: I wonder if they can tell that is the same man. the treasurer stole the money, not Louis.

keli1: Hi Bernice

bbenn: Hi Everyone! Sorry that I am late.

AYWalton: Remember the historian said that nothing implicated Louis Brown.

Nadasue: Hi Bernice.

keli1: right, the man stole the money and left. Just think the theft's descendents know now

evpace: Louis was still doing right by his members.

AYWalton: that book should be online.

Nadasue: Can you post a link to the one at the NYPL AYWalton ?

AYWalton: I just googled it.

Nadasue: k

AYWalton: can't paste without my regular mouse.

Nadasue: k np

AYWalton: I wonder if they have found the grave since the program aired last year.

keli1: what a wonderful project to clean up and document those in the cemetery

AYWalton: true.

bbenn: Is this an update from last year? I am just tuning into the show...

AYWalton: not an update. a repeat. was just wondering though if anyone has even tried to find it since then. I think it is interesting to follow up on some of the folks in the programs. I did that with Don Cheadle on my Afr.-Native Am site. I ptu up other documents that he did not get on the tv show.

evpace: No but we should promote updates for WDYTYA and FYR. Remember the Oprah episode grave find!

AYWalton: I am trying to remember that.

keli1: Grave find? she had another show on OWN, but not called Grave find,hmmm did JL Brown remarry?

evpace: Keli her roots were done by Gates.

AYWalton: Not known.

bbenn: That's a touching moment! I love hugs:)

AYWalton: that was a mosaic templar's headstone. he could have one.

keli1: well he was the keeper of that cemetery, I believe the records went down on him

Khathu: good night everyone

keli1: hi Selma!

AYWalton: another history professor hello Mizz Selma!!!

Selma: Good evening folks..

bbenn: Hi Selma

Selma: He is at uva

keli1: yes Jordan

AYWalton: the owner was his father

Nadasue: Evening Selma.

AYWalton: black history professors but never black genealogists. Nothing wrong with historians---and I can say the same for black genealogists. Selma do you know that professor?

evpace: SELMA!

AYWalton: or have run into him?

keli1: lol, I hope she hasn't, I know him

Selma: Yes..we had him as a speaker after he published his book LOL

AYWalton: uh oh.......what does that mean, keli1? greetings, vkn!!!!

keli1: keeping my comments to my self

AYWalton: I see. ok.........

keli1: another time, another discussion

vkn: Hey hey hey ayw and all sorry to be late

keli1: Hi vkn

AYWalton: sounds like it.

Selma: He also spoke at the VA Forum at CNU..on the first black graduate of UVA

bbenn: hi vkn

evpace: Another Dr.G?lol

Selma: I met his wife too keli.. LOL

keli1: he said they treated him and his wife like royalty

AYWalton: CNU?

keli1: yep, wife tends to go with him when he travels

Nadasue: Was that Walter Ridley???

vkn: selma keli bbenn evpace nadasue ayw again

Selma: evening vkn..

keli1: he knows his stuff

evpace: Evening Diva vkn!.

Nadasue: Actually, it couldn't have been cuz he is dead

vkn: u 2 evpace

AYWalton: evpace will you be going to Salt Lake in the fall?

evpace: Too soon to know AY

Nadasue: Walter Ridley was the first black to graduate from UVA - my alma mater

vkn: how about that nadasue

AYWalton: Mariah was the slave. He could be Mariahs' father, too.

Nadasue: But he is dead vkn

vkn: oops

Nadasue: lol

keli1: Morgan W. Brown is that baby daddy!

bbenn: lol lol

evpace: BINGO!

AYWalton: yep!! But the old man is writing all of this.

Nadasue: Nice! I don't remember that from before

AYWalton: why would he care.

vkn: hmmmmm

Selma: So why didn't he free her before he died..

AYWalton: and don't forget----J.L. was a servant (aka--slave) during the war, becasue he got a pension as a "servant" of a confederate.

Selma: Yes..not a soldier

AYWalton: and would a free man sign up to be a servant (slave) during the war? HA!!

keli1: half brother or father, darn shame,

Selma: I ain't getting teary eyed..

AYWalton: yep!

Selma: Right was his by ownership

AYWalton: I don't think Morgan W carried anything out.

Selma: Me either..

keli1: well Jl's daddy with either Dr. Morgan or the son Morgan W. but Doc took care of Mariah and baby, which should be JL

evpace: GGF looks like him remember the widowers peak on GGF and Lionel has the long face and hair line.

AYWalton: because J.L. was still "serving" folks during the war.

keli1: sure you are...I am we still serving folks...

vkn: lol keli1

AYWalton: well............sigh.......sad but true.

evpace: What side was he serving during the Civil War?

AYWalton: he was a servant.

Selma: The confederates..

AYWalton: not a soldier---and a servant he was serving a confederate

keli1: oh I am very serious, I have an uncle, 94 yrs old, still ducks his head when he is face to face to a white person...I have watched it growing up, he was born in Meridian MS

evpace: The pension rolls will tell us.

AYWalton: so you can't convince me that this literate man signed up to serve folks who were shooting at OUR folks. that is his world, keli1. So sad. they had the pension roll. it said servant

evpace: Remember "Driving Miss Daisy".

keli1: yes, we just got him to do 23andme, he says he aint' got no white folks blood in him, asked me why you looking for dem dead folks, Love my Uncle Julius

vkn: yes ms daisy

AYWalton: lol well folks I am going to sign off.

keli1: later AY

vkn: bye ayw

AYWalton: multitasking. have a good evening.

keli1: I need to index a couple of images

vkn: great all indexers

Selma: I am gonna sign up this week..

keli1: Selma, been doing VA only

vkn: sela you have had a busy week lma

Selma: Thats what I gonna do too..

vkn: selma

Selma: Yep..still have company..

vkn: who else is indexing?

Selma: Sister and nephew living tomorrow..Mom is staying for awhile leaving

bbenn: I started yesterday and gave up after 10 minutes.lol

vkn: good for mom

evpace: Nite all.

Selma: GAve up..how could you bben..

keli1: gave up after 10 min, why Bernice

vkn: Too dofficult bbenn

bbenn: time consuming!

vkn: I see

keli1: I only do one a night

vkn: and prolly a strain on eyes

Nadasue: Headed to geneabloggers radio. Goodnight, all.

Selma: Good night folks..

keli1: me too,

vkn: Niters and thanx for being here

bbenn: yes, i have dry eyes good night

vkn: Niters