2011-08-30 Webinar • DNA• 3rd Connects
3rdthawkins: hey alt, how's it going?
alt: Hi 3rdthawkins, guess we get the 'worm' LOL
3rdthawkins: oops, I already ate it alt lol
3rdthawkins: looks like Afrigeneas helped make a connection for me, was waiting for vkn to come in
alt: wonderful... AfriGeneas is good at making connections your connection.. who, what, when where ???
3rdthawkins: well, in 2004 and in 2006 a lady had posted here on AfriGeneas looking for her long lost sister who was given to another lady to raise by their mother. I came across the post when googling the name of my great grandmother's brother's daughter. She apparently had a child in her teens and left her to be raised by another woman, she eventually moved to California and started another family about ten years later........
alt: sounds like the beginning of a great story.... and outcome.
3rdthawkins: She apparently told her kids about her other child she had, so they were searching for her. I couldn't respond to either posts since they were archived, so I just copied and pasted both posts in my own post I had posted on the Gen and His forum in 2009. Well, the lady who wrote the original two posts (the daughter of my great grandmother's niece) apparently just recently saw my post and she called my grandmother and asked if my grandmother had any grandchildren with the last name Hawkins. My grandmother called me and asked who this lady was that called her, and I remembered so I told my grandmother......
3rdthawkins: The way she got in contact with my grandmother was that her aunt (her mom's sister) and my grandmother kept in contact, so the lady asked her aunt about my great grandmother, since her aunt is my great grandmother's niece. So she told her about my great grandmother and my grandmother, and got my grandmother's number..........this family is on my mother's mother's side.......the Hughes line
alt: the AfriGeneas Archives and the 'search' feature are truly untapped gems.
3rdthawkins: yep, I wouldn't discourage anyone from posting, you just never know. It was how I got in contact with my half siblings from my dad's side. That was on Ancestry though, but you never know who could be searching......anything can spark a person to search for family, doesn't have to be family research/genealogy, it can be anything
alt: I know your mother & grnadmaother are pleased with the results of your work 3rdthawkins
3rdthawkins: it could take a while before someone respond, but it will come.........hello fierybug08
fierybug08: hi alt & 3rd. just reading to catch up. don't mind me lol
alt: Hello fierybug08.. how are ya today?
fierybug08: just fine.
3rdthawkins: I am currently helping her find her sister, that is still in progress, it is difficult, she has been looking for a long time, I hope to help get her in contact
alt: wonderful 3rdthawkins
fierybug08: wow 3rd sounds like you've been busy. I'm glad you are finding connections.
3rdthawkins: thx fiery, and this came out of nowhere yesterday, it was 2009 since i posted, I had forgotten about it, glad she saw my post
fierybug08: Everyone has been helpful to me too. VKN just sent me a list of Grundys to research. I have found several. I think I would like to do a historical scan of the county. Some of the Grundy's found were considered mulattos in the early 1900s i even found a record for 3 adopted siblings who were from Kansas and were settled in Cass County.
3rdthawkins: yeah, it is a possibility of a Caucasian connection fierybug, most Earnest/Ernest Grundy's are white, very few are black also scan the texas death records fiery on familysearch, for grundy's in Cass
alt: hello Selma
Selma: Afternoon everyone..
3rdthawkins: I was doing that in SC for my Sanders and happened to find a brother of my grgr gf I never knew about..........hey Selma
fierybug08: hi Selma
3rdthawkins: hello daviss, howdy-doo!
alt: hello daviss
daviss: hello 3rd fierybug and Selma!! hi there alt
Selma: Hi daviss
fierybug08: hi daviss
daviss: Good to see you Selma!!!
Selma: Yep..finally got power
daviss: Did you have perishables on ice Selma?
fierybug08: good to hear Selma
3rdthawkins: yes, good to see you Selma, glad you are doing ok
daviss: great, what about your mom and others did they fair well? and Victoria Angela? lol
Selma: Yes..everyone up the East Coast came thru OK Lots of down trees around here..took out the transformers
daviss: Vermont and New jersey are still going strong with those floods
Selma: Even Busch Gardens in Williamsburg was closed up to yesterday because of no power
3rdthawkins: yeah, I see daviss, seem like all in my family are doing ok, didn't realize a cousin was in NJ until I spoke with his mom yesterday, he's doing ok, all others on Long Island and in Mass. are doing ok
daviss: thats good 3rd!! slt, thanks for the response on yesterday sit = alt
3rdthawkins: my dad called this morning after I tried contacting him yesterday, his cable internet service is off that is why I couldn't get through to him, but he's doing ok
alt: yw daviss
daviss: Selma, have you talked to Dru?
Selma: Yes, spoke with her last night she is Ok...
daviss: good!! We are like family and when one hurts we all hurt
fierybug08: 3rd, glad your dad is doing okay
3rdthawkins: thx fiery
daviss: I tried the text'ing route..Thats what Fema requested on CNN
Selma: It appears that another storm is brewing in the Atlantic..so we are watching
daviss: there must be another one because they mentioned a womans name must be two fierybug08 did you call that number
fierybug08: no not yet daviss.
alt: guess researching has taken a 'backseat' to Irene, huh?
daviss: not sure what time zone they are in
3rdthawkins: yep alt
daviss: I would imagine alt. lots of researchers out that way. wonder if any courthouses are under water hello bearnut2!
3rdthawkins: hello and wb bearnut2
fierybug08: hi bearnut2
Selma: None that I know of here so far davis..but I am sure there might be some Hi bearnut
bearnut2: hi daviss 3rdthawkins fierybug08 Selma akt
alt: Hello bearnut2 ,, hang on LOL
bearnut2: alt lol
daviss: do you need a rope!!
3rdthawkins: that first step in can always get you
bearnut2: lol I don't know what happened but i'm good now lol
alt: starting to get a lot of information from the group in Ft. Wayne on the NBGS.
bearnut2: ooh really? that reminds me, I need to send in my registration! I will do that today! dont want to miss the discount
alt: at least your room reservation bearnut2 .... I don't usually send my Conference registration in until about a month before the conference... can't tie up what little money I have for too long LOL
bearnut2: yeah! my group is supposed to be meeting about rooms and such but I think I'll go ahead and reserve something now
daviss: and build up that little money lol oops
bearnut2: I couldn't type...
alt: right daviss .. and Anita is doing her usual hem/haw thing about going, so I sure don't want to register her and then she backs out of going.
3rdthawkins: oh, she's one of those alt, lol I have a few in my family
bearnut2: lol 3rd I've got some too fortunately, for genealogy stuff i usually don't have to worry about anyone but me lol
alt: but I love her just the same 'cause Caldonia is her name" LOL
bearnut2: lol so alt, is the info online or did they send it to you?
alt: they sent it to my group bearnut2
bearnut2: ahhh--can you share?
alt: Could you please share this with your society members? The National Black Genealogy Summit is October 20-22, 2011 in Fort Wayne, Indiana. The Summit will be held at the Allen County Public Library and the Grand Wayne Convention Center in Fort Wayne. It's theme is, “African Diaspora: Awakening Our Legacy.” Speakers include Tony Burroughs, Damani Davis of the National Archives; DNA expert, Roberta Estes; Jim Isom; Shamele Jordan; Lisa Lee; Timothy Pinnick; and Angela Walton-Raji. Summit attendees may take advantage of special extended hours at The Genealogy Center at the Allen County Public Library on Oct. 20-23. The two-day Summit on Friday and Saturday, October 21st & 22nd, offers the best in African American genealogical lectures and presentations. A multi-track pre-summit program on Oct. 20 is free and open to all, and focuses on family health history, foundations of genealogical research, a librarians track, and information sharing. A booksigning and gospel concert are planned on the evening of the pre-
bearnut2: ask and you shall receive! lol
alt: I can forward to your email address if you like bearnut2
Selma: Our group received around 10 registration forms in the mail..gonna put in the library
bearnut2: thanks alt! I'm excited to meet Lisa Lee, Timothy Pinnick, and Angela and especially my cousin, Roberta Estes! thanks alt!
alt: Roberta is your cousin!!!!! I 've seen her speak a couple of times on DNA, she is really good!!! In spite of what you-know-who thinks LOL
bearnut2: lol! yep we're genetic cousins! I found out after I tested.
daviss: thats great bearnut2
bearnut2: yeah, i was pretty excited daviss after i found out who she was
alt: I'm excited to meet Lisa Lee in person... we have Canadian connections and have corresponded over the last 10-15 years, but never met in person yet.
bearnut2: thats cool alt! I'm excited to meet her because I am often mistaken for her in the forums lol I think its my Lisa L.
alt: I know lol
daviss: What alt, you have never met Lisa!! She is a sweetie
alt: that's what ET keeps telling me daviss
daviss: I enjoyed her presentation
alt: 3rdthawkins, with your recent findings and what you've been doing since you came on AfriGeneas you must have a fairly nice sized database now.
daviss: what is your haplo bearnut2?
3rdthawkins: I wish alt, no one know's anything, I have to pass out family group sheets to everyone so they can write down children's names, some I think won't wanna do it, other's say they will, but you end up waiting forever for them to give you any information
alt: I know 3rdthawkins that's a pain in the old 'patootie' LOL
daviss: :o now would that be the same at all companies that test
3rdthawkins: the best thing is knowing who to give it too, you don't have to give a FGS to everyone, just the ones that's willing to share information and knows information, that's cool
daviss: how many in your database 3rd?
3rdthawkins: ok, let me see daviss how do I find that how in rootsmagic alt?
AYWalton: Good afternoon, all.
Selma: Afternoon AY
AYWalton: hi 3rd
alt: hello AYwalton.. how are ya?
fierybug08: hi AYWalton
daviss: heyyy Ms AY!!!
3rdthawkins: hey AY
bearnut2: daviss it should be but if the company tests STRs (like Ancestry) they may not go as deep into your haplogroup so I might only get L3 from them...
AYWalton: hello there alt, bearnut2, daviss, fierybug, Ms. Selma!
alt: go to FILE and scrolll down to Properties 3rdthawkins
3rdthawkins: ok, thx
AYWalton: Hope you are all well, and good to see Ms. Selma is back!
daviss: ahhhh I see bearnut2
AYWalton: doing fine, alt, and you?
Selma: Good to be back AY
AYWalton: sorry to be late. been busy tweaking power points and had to get an outline to Tenpenny in Arkansas for the AAHGS conference.
alt: don't let it happen on a regular basis AYWalton !!!!!!!
3rdthawkins: daviss, 1,014 people, 278 Families......this may include those listed as unknowns
daviss: at Ancestry I tested as I and at FTDNA I am L0A1
AYWalton: just reading to catch up on the chat I missed.
bearnut2: you were I (eye) at Ancestry?
AYWalton: Bearnut2 are you going to the Summit in Ft. Wayne?
bearnut2: yes ma'am! AYWalton
daviss: lol bearnut2 yes
AYWalton: oh wonderful!!!
alt: that's odd, huh bearnut2? RE: ancestry
AYWalton: we should have an AfriGeneas meet up or something.
bearnut2: yeah that is odd I'm game for a meet-up!
alt: was that you or your brother with the "I" on ancestry daviss?
daviss: so after looking in mirror I went to FTDNA lol
AYWalton: I will bring AfriGeneas buttons with me.
daviss: my brother is E1B1A
bearnut2: daviss--you should contact ancestry and have them look into it. There shouldn't be a discrepancy like that
alt: fo sho bearnut2, that's a BIG discrepancy
3rdthawkins: what's the discrepancy, or why is it? let me know
daviss: mabe I should
bearnut2: you definitely should!
alt: I is Euro & L is African, right bearnut2
bearnut2: 3rd--dna haplogroups form a "tree" and when testing your mitochondrial or y dna you are assigned to a branch...
3rdthawkins: so did it not match what daviss' had for her's
bearnut2: alt I is a y chromosome haplogroup not mt but yes I is european and L is african
daviss: so they are saying I am a boy
alt: I know bearnut2 .. that;s why I asked if that was her brother.. cause I'm an I Y-DNA
bearnut2: lol daviss--yeah, they made a mistake somewhere!
daviss: I thought I was just a tom boy when I was growing up
bearnut2: lol daviss lol
daviss: uh oh lol
3rdthawkins: wow, crazy, I was wondering if it was something like that daviss
daviss: yeah right 3rd! lol
3rdthawkins: no, I was wondering if that was the mistake they were making, but I thought it was vice versa for him your bro
bearnut2: so 3rd you "shouldn't" get a different letter from different companies. You might get a more detailed assignment--for instance L3 from Ancestry and L3d1-5 from 23andme--but you shouldn't get an L from one company and a D from another.
daviss: we did not test at the same time so they would not have known
AYWalton: Whew! back!
3rdthawkins: ahh, I see bearnut2, wow.........I see daviss
bearnut2: welcome back AY... looks like you're having the problem I had lol
daviss: my other brother by the same mother is E1B1b
AYWalton: yes, that was strange. I had to completely reboot!
bearnut2: so he and your other brother have different fathers, right?
AYWalton: I hope that some of you can watch the webinar tomorrow that I am presenting.
AYWalton: It is free and you can still register for it at LegacyFamilyTree.com
bearnut2: if you all have the same mother then their mt haplogroup will be the same as yours...whatever that is! lol
alt: it's @ 10:00 PM EST right AYWalton
AYWalton: no 2pm EST tomorrow afternoon, alt.
daviss: I am hoping so AY.. I signed up. I have granddaughters computer and hope she does not need it before then
bearnut2: cool AY! I'll try to be there!
daviss: lol lol @ bearnut2
bearnut2: going to register right now
alt: oh, tomorrow @ 2:00 PM okay... I'll be awake for that LOL
AYWalton: well you can always watch it later online at 10 pm if you wish---it just won't be live.
daviss: you're going to register @##@ I need to go call ancestry
AYWalton: they will keep it up for a couple of weeks.
alt: not me AYWalton 10:00 PM is a 'problem' for this old timer LOL
AYWalton: that is also late for Selma she is an early sleeper.
3rdthawkins: she may be sleeping right now, lol
alt: hey Selma, you still with us?
AYWalton: she is quiet.
Selma: I will take my Nap before the webinar
alt: Selma, what did you do with no power for 5-6 hours?
AYWalton: oops phone. have a good day, folks.
alt: I go 'nuts' when we lose power for 1/2 hour LOL LOL
bearnut2: so alt, you been checking out the 23 forum?
alt: not lately bearnut2... they're too deep for me
bearnut2: is fierybug08 still here? ol alt lol
daviss: lol @ alt
fierybug08: yep. i am here. my allergies are bothering me
3rdthawkins: take of yurself with that fiery,
bearnut2: ugh--i hate that! hope you get some relief soon
daviss: I need simple bearnut2 to understand..
fierybug08: me too. i stayed home yesterday-- but now i'm back at work. can't afford to miss work
Selma: Didn't have power for 2 1/2 days
bearnut2: I posted a "newbie" intro to sharing
3rdthawkins: I don't play with that.......it seems there isn't a lot of dust where I am now opposed to where I was in Joplin, too much dust there in the house
bearnut2: yikes Selma!
alt: on 23andme?
daviss: Was there a cool breeze afterwards Selma
bearnut2: A couple of years ago my neighborhood lost power for 8 days--i was miserable
Selma: It was somewhat cooler
daviss: I would hate to be without power here. after a storm it is always miserable here
bearnut2: alt yep on 23andme--"Sharing isn't as scary as it sounds"
Selma: Jeez daviss..where you are it must be really miserable without power
bearnut2: Its actually in the Health forum in the RITF section
alt: I heard that bearnut2, when we lost power for a week a few years back it was miserable.... candlelight dinners are not my cup of tea.
daviss: yep!! but I have never been without for more than a day
bearnut2: I don't know how our ancestors did it!
daviss: you got that right bearnut2
bearnut2: But I guess when you don't know about it, its not a big deal...
alt: well, y'all hope you'll excuse me.. time to skedaddle LOL
3rdthawkins: yeah, thank God for Thomas Edison
bearnut2: lol 3rd true dat!
daviss: bye alt have a good one
3rdthawkins: c ya alt
bearnut2: have a good one alt
daviss: lol what about the kite
Selma: I have to run too folks...see you tonight...have a good day
daviss: later selma
bearnut2: you too Selma
daviss: and the key lol
3rdthawkins: yeah, that too daviss, Benjamin Franklin, Electricity
bearnut2: wish i could join you tonite--have to work lol daviss
daviss: lol lol
bearnut2: now the schoolhouse rock song is in my head lol
daviss: lol lol lol
bearnut2: are you taking something for your allergies fierybug08
fierybug08: i will when i get home. zyertx
bearnut2: ooh you should have taken it before--it doesn't make you sleepy--at least its not supposed to
daviss: bearnut2 I will let you know what they tell me at ancestry. I wonder if they will want me to restest
fierybug08: no, well at first i thought i had a cold.
fierybug08: oh well. i'll get better.
bearnut2: daviss--if they do, they will need to absorb the cost
daviss: you will fierybug
bearnut2: I have so many allergy problems, I always think allergy first! never cold lol
daviss: I would hope so bearnut2
bearnut2: you mentioned joplin, where are you now? fierybug08
fierybug08: huh? Joplin?
daviss: I think that was 3rd
fierybug08: i'm in md/dc
3rdthawkins: daviss, was telling alt earlier made a family connection....
bearnut2: When you talk to them daviss, just tell them that you received a different result from FTDNA --don't tell them what. And that from your understanding there is no I mt haplogroup.
daviss: oh really 3rd
bearnut2: oops sorry
daviss: ok bearnut 2 should I tell them I am AA or just leave it at that
bearnut2: nah--just tell them youre female and you don't think your haplogroup assignment is correct 3rd what connection did you make?
3rdthawkins: yes. A maternal 2nd cousin of my mom wrote two posts on Afrigeneas, one in 2004 and another 2006 looking for her oldest sister. Her mom is the niece of my mother's maternal grandmother....
bearnut2: wow thats cool 3rdthawkins
3rdthawkins: I wrote a post in 2009, I copied and pasted her posts into mine letting her know of the connection and to contact me
daviss: so AfriGeneas was the key again 3rd!! Thats great
3rdthawkins: her aunt (her mother's sister) and my grandmother keeps in contact (they are first cousins), so she got my grm's number from her aunt, my grandmother called me asking me who this lady was, and it brought back to my memory the post so I am helping her find her sister.......yes, Afrigeneas is the source for the connection
daviss: how nice3
bearnut2: thats great 3rd!
fierybug08: i'm going to go everybody.
bearnut2: does she and her sister share a father?
3rdthawkins: no bearnut2, my great grandmother's niece had a child in her teens and left her with someone else to raise, then moved to California and started another family about ten years later, so the children from her second family are looking for the child from their mom's first relationship
bearnut2: ahhh wow...I hope they find her
3rdthawkins: yes, trying to help, it is not easy, the sister grew up in Fort Worth, TX, I see this cousin has been busy trying to find her sister on the net
daviss: I hope so also
bearnut2: I'm trying to help a lady now find out more info on her birth family--her mother gave up all of her 10? kids to foster care and or adoption
3rdthawkins: she may have changed names, then got married, and that makes it even more difficult
daviss: what is the name 3rd
3rdthawkins: Wanda Jo Hughes was her birth name, she was raised by a woman named Lela/Lila B Powell born in 1947
daviss: I see we all have a challenge.. I am trying to find my x's parents or possibly his siblings if still living
bearnut2: what area 3rd?
3rdthawkins: fort worth
bearnut2: yeah, its a lot harder to look for living folks than dead ones! lol
daviss: I had a lead. someone had a sis in law whos hubby had a father with that same name I was looking for
3rdthawkins: lila, I think, married a Smith
daviss: she told me she would ask and get back with me to this very day she has not answered my email I believe she knows the story but not woman enough to tell me
bearnut2: yeah--you're probably right about that
3rdthawkins: yeah, I get that myself daviss, I hate that......Im still "waiting" for a person on my dad's side to call me back with more info on the family, they never did.....but this lady married into the family, she knew none of the people I mentioned that are in the family, so I got in contact with someone who actually is in the family, and whose a much better help
daviss: I know I am right
bearnut2: I'm lucky to have found my sisters...actually my mom found one of them by accident and she told me the name of another
3rdthawkins: someone who knows my grandparents, and their siblings......not someone who is the wife of a son of a half-sibling of my great grandfather
daviss: This man just needs to know where he comes from and so do his kids
bearnut2: yeah--we all deserve to know from whence we came
daviss: You cant change the past but you can be a forgiving person
3rdthawkins: yes daviss
bearnut2: definitely daviss
daviss: That is the only way you will be whole
bearnut2: well, I'm going to have to get off here. Good convo and I'll try to look around for you 3rd, in my spare time
3rdthawkins: thx bear, c ya
daviss: You never really know the circumstances because there is always two sides to every story
3rdthawkins: yep daviss, hard to judge
bearnut2: have a good day you two--that is so true daviss !
daviss: ok bearnut2 will chat later I don't judge 3rd not for me to do life is too short ok chat later have a nice day
3rdthawkins: ok, later daviss