2011-07-23 Homsteading • Conference
vkn: Heyyyyyyyyyy alt where you be Thought I had lost ya
alt: Hello vkn.. been tryiong to 'naviagte' thru these sites and hit the wrong key LOL... how are ya?
vkn: be working on talking all day
deannie: evening all...
alt: I was looking at AfriGeneas Talking & trying to figure my way around. Hello deannie, how ya doing?
vkn: It improves daily alt and has a great promise
alt: I think so vkn
deannie: Great...My Gen friend Mz D says hi also
alt: Hi Mz D , how are you?
vkn: Thanx deannie and give her hello back
deannie: Great I received another Presidential Memorial Certificate on Friday...i love them for my records..also because my president signature is on it
alt: bet it ain't so Windy in the Windy city today deannie... are you as HOT as we are?
deannie: How about both of you Ditto.....
alt: wonderful deannie, is this for a CW veteran, or something else?
vkn: also hot here deannie
deannie: Yes the one I received on Friday is...but I have one for my uncle in WWII
vkn: heyyyyyyyyy daviss
deannie: The whole country was under the sun this week
daviss: Not a thing happening in my neck of the woods errrr country aly lol
alt: deannie, the PMC's.. they are for veterans of any war?
vkn: I be sipping blueberry lemonade daviss
deannie: Deceased.....and Yes
daviss: that sounds wonderful and delish vkn
alt: okay deannie .. thanks
daviss: Long time deannie!
vkn: Sooo alt are you and Edith kin
deannie: I also learned that you can get as many certificates of the same person
daviss: did you get my last msg I sent you on Talking vkn?
alt: vkn, where is Edith Lee Harris on AT located? she knows my couisn Vici Adams,, was a college classmate of hers and she also works with Doug Harger from Troy, Ohio that I know quite well.... small world, huh?
deannie: daviss....I was lost for time...I could remember to get on
daviss: deannie is this for current deaths
vkn: teeny weeny neechy world alt
alt: so I see vkn....
deannie: no......any time...but the veterans must be died
daviss: ah so not war related death just to have been a veteran
vkn: Hola Selma how is the ankle
alt: hello Hop-A-Long LOL lOL how ya doing?
daviss: How would one go about getting it, can you send me the link heyyy Selma!!
Selma: Good Saturday evening folks.. The ankle is elevated
vkn: good for the ankle
daviss: good selma
Selma: and iced
alt: Selma, except for 'business trips' are you ambulating at all?
Selma: Nope alt
daviss: lol @ Selma
Selma: I am suppose to be totally off alt
alt: okay, just wondering what is in store for me
vkn: ahhhhhh good she is getting that done alt
AYWalton: Good evening all.
alt: Hello AYWalton
vkn: Heyyyy AYW how you be
Selma: Lately this has been a medical chat, with all our ailments
AYWalton: howdy alt, daviss, deannie, Ms. Selma! and how is the patient Selma this evening?
alt: on the 3rd of Aug vkn.. she won't be able to play Tennis or Bowl for 6-8 weeks according to the Dr.'s.
Selma: Medicated and iced AY.. LOL and she should listen to her doctor alt..and not go back to soon
alt: she will listen to ANYBODY but me Selma LOL LOL
AYWalton: stay that way, Selma, don't want you getting cute and trying to do the Electric Slide, too soon!
Selma: Yes mam AY..or me and Mizz Agnes will be zooming around in our hover chairs
AYWalton: and Barbara too. Yall can go down the soul train line on a scooter!
vkn: On the 3rd of Aug she can gaze at alt and recuperate lol
Selma: Char spoke here today at Colonial Williamsburg..not sure who went? Gazing at alt..I love that..he better be bearing gifts.. LOL
AYWalton: where did she speak, Selma?
daviss: did anyone read the article that BBennett eluded to on the forum
AYWalton: the article that is on one of her blogs? (I think)
vkn: The subject sounded interesting now I cannot remember what it was
Selma: She was invited by Colonial Williamsburg Foundation...think she spoke at Bruton HS which is now a historical education center, was the black HS
alt: Article ?, when daviss?
daviss: Was homesteading only For White people
Selma: About whether the Homestead Act was only for white folk..I didn't read yet
AYWalton: who spoke about the Homestead Act? Bernice?
vkn: Yes on a BBennett blog about homesteading
Selma: Apparently its a Blog somewhere online..it was just posted
daviss: Its on the gen and Hist Forum alt
vkn: yes ayw
alt: don't think so daviss... keli1 had folks get land in Mich via the Homestead Act in ca 1863-1864.
Selma: I was just thinking the same thing alt..re keli
AYWalton: there are many black families with Homestead Applications from 1862 onward.
daviss: so thats her blog Selma
AYWalton: my Arkansas Bass clan acquired land that way as well.
alt: and there was a whole settlement of AA's in Cass Co., MI getting land via the Homestead Act.
AYWalton: I know that Bernice also got a copy of the map where her ancestors' land was.
Selma: I am sure like many other things...there might have been obstacles that black folk encountered
alt: Weren't the Kansas Exoduster's part of the Homestead Act?
AYWalton: Not sure how they purchased land, but they were influenced by Papp Singleton to go west to Kansas. They may have indeed been homesteaders.
vkn: Those homestead apps and docs are rich in genealogical data
AYWalton: yes they are. I know that Reginald Washington has given several presentations on Homestead applications.
Selma: Yes..he did AY...
daviss: where would a body get the application
vkn: and homesteading continus
AYWalton: I know that the Govt Land office provides images of those land patents and in some cases plat maps as well.
vkn: and homesteading continues
Selma: They always have displays at the big conferences AY..Gov't Land office
AYWalton: yes they do.
Selma: Give away nice pens.. LOL
vkn: I think with the tax assessor daviss at the county level
alt: vkn, Hasker Nelson writes about his family in MS getting their land thru the Homestead Act.
daviss: ok thanks vkn you guys are gonna have me learning and learning and learning
Selma: Thats a good thing daviss..LOL
AYWalton: are there Homestead records for TX?
vkn: If I recall correctly I think all are indexed and detailed in GA
daviss: no idea AYWalton, I guess i would have to see if anyone in my fam homesteaded I know I homesteaded in my first house here in Phx for 5 yrs lol
AYWalton: really? interesting!
alt: if anyone is up past midnight the Harlem Book Fair will re-air today's programs on C-span2 .. they had 4-5 great panels on today .. I watched them all LOL
daviss: yep! the money I pd went for the down payment
AYWalton: I am a night owl, myself, alt. hey there SoulChile!!
Seventies Soulchild: hello all!
vkn: All seniors i n GA were able to be free of paying property taxes fo about three years via homesteading but that ended with the 2009 tax year
alt: hello Seventies Soulchild
AYWalton: that's interesting, vkn.
Selma: Evening seventies
daviss: me too. I stay up until the last airing of news on MSNBC lol
vkn: Howdy seventies good cemeteries work you are doing
Seventies Soulchild: thank you vkn lol I wish ProfDru were here tonight! I have a story to share with her! :}
daviss: does she ever come in on Sat
Seventies Soulchild: I don't think she ever does.
alt: come to think of it the same thing happened here in Ohio vkn re: Seniors & property taxes.
Selma: I haven't talked to her today seventies
vkn: BUT the paper work following was slow alt so peeps got a two year bill because escrow had notwitheld enough so it was a struggle for many to pay the arrears
Selma: Nobody's offering to pay my personal property tax vkn..
daviss: They don't have it here either Selma I think my cousin said seniors are exempt in Tx
vkn: Well we got off easy while it lasted Selma but as you know thE ? giveth and the / taketh away
alt: I think in Ohio it was 'relief" up to a certain amount under some kind of Homestead Act for Seniors.
vkn: Howdy BBennett your ears must be burning we are speaking bout your blog
daviss: welcome BBennett
AYWalton: Bbennett, greetings!!
alt: hello and welcome BBENNETT
AYWalton: how are you this evening?
BBENNETT: This blog was written by the Friends of Homesteaders after I submitted my story of a Louisiana Farmer. I did not write the blog. I thought that it was interesting they decided to blog about the issue of black homesteaders. What are your thoughts about the blog?
AYWalton: it was a good article! I found it interesting.
Seventies Soulchild: Hello bbennett
AYWalton: I have not yet studied the other contents of the blog.
BBENNETT: I have received a lot of feedback concerning my article and I am hoping that other black homesteader descendants will write their stories.
vkn: ohhhh I did read the LA one it was well done I thought Will need to read again to make current comment
BBENNETT: Have any of you heard about the group Coming To The Table?
vkn: How similar are the stories BBennett
AYWalton: tell us about the map that you got from the BLM office. yes, I have heard about them, BBennett!
BBENNETT: I received a plat and description of the land my ancestor settled on that included a description of the topography, its inhabitants and the environmental conditions in the area.
vkn: I too have heard BBennett
alt: this is a group of descendants of former slaves & slaveowners, right BBENNETT?
BBENNETT: Yes, this group consist of descendants of former slaves and slaveowners.
AYWalton: was it for the years your ancestors acquired the land or the years before they got it?
BBENNETT: The Mid-Atlantic group is planning a meeting on September 10 in Richmond.
AYWalton: which group is this BBennett?
BBENNETT: The years before my ancestor acquired the land.
AYWalton: a group for Coming to the Table or another group?
BBENNETT: The group is Coming to the Table
AYWalton: I thought they were at Eastern Mennonite University. I didn't realize they had chapters.
BBENNETT: I also received a map from the Livingston Parish Courthouse that pinpointed exactly where the land is located. They don't have Chapters. This group simply consist of individuals living in the Mid-Atlantic States.
alt: BBENNETT, was the land in LA government land, or the land of former slave owners? or is/was there a distinction?
BBENNETT: The land in LA was federal land.
alt: okay, so the Homestead Act applies only to Federal land and not that in the hands of private owners.
BBENNETT: After the Civil War, land was available in several Southern States under the Southern Homestead Act and LA also had a homestead program.
daviss: hmmm did that include Texas
AYWalton: ok you mentioned the Mid-Atlantic group so I thought it was a chapter of the larger entity.
BBENNETT: Yes, the Homestead land is only Federal Land unless the States decided to initiate their own homestead program. This group is not calling themselves a Chapter. They are only individuals who reside in Mid-Atlantic area who want to get together to share stories and history.
alt: right BBENNETT and I think some folk might believe land bought from private individuals might fall under the Homestead Act...... wrong...
AYWalton: ahhhh ok. do you have info about it? I might want to know more about them.
BBENNETT: Texas is not included in the ACT because they also had special State programs.
vkn: AYW Roma Stewart has done homestead act work for at least one GA county. It may be the county where Luckie has roots
BBENNETT: I will send you an invitation to join the group.
AYWalton: I see. thanks so much, BBENNETT!
BBENNETT: you are welcome
daviss: answer lol
AYWalton: lol @ daviss
BBENNETT: I have a question..anybody an expert in DNA
alt: so BBENNETT, there is a difference between land that might be bought thru 'sharecropping' and 'homesteading"?
daviss: mabe alt can help with that BBENNETT
BBENNETT: Absolutely, big difference. Homesteaders owned their land and sharecroppers have an arrangement with the owner. My DNA question...I tested with two companies. One company provided my African Ancestry, the second company provided Mt DNA, YDNA and Autosomal and admixture.
AYWalton: I am thinking about the admixture test.
BBENNETT: The admixture provided identical information to the African Ancestry down to the tribe. I was very happy to see that these findings were consistent.
AYWalton: how wonderful to hear that, BBENNETT!!! did you use 23 and Me?
BBENNETT: No, I used Family Finder.
AYWalton: for the admixture test? I don't know that company.
alt: right BBENNETT, the African Ancestry 'haplogroup' was a match with the mtDNA Family Finder is with FTDNA
BBENNETT: I had two matches - 4th distant cousins. They have not responded..maybe the European matches
AYWalton: what is your haplogroup, BBENNETT? I am L3
BBENNETT: The African Ancestry matched the Family Finder African ancestry. Both West Africa - Yoruba.
AYWalton: we are DNA cousins, then. But I have Yoruba/Fulani mixed!
AYWalton: we are close with haplogroups.
Khathu: good evening everyone
alt: Hello khathu
BBENNETT: Yes, I have the same match. This is soooo exciting.
deannie: I have a compayn...I will chat in the moring.......
BBENNETT: Are you attending the Yoruba Descendants Convention in New York - 9/11
AYWalton: greetings, khathu! not aware of it.
Selma: Evening Khathu
BBENNETT: The group has been around for 18 years.
AYWalton: But being married to a Yoruba man for more than 25 years I am around Yorubas all the time.
BBENNETT: I am not around any Yorubas that I know of.
AYWalton: (not to mention cooking and eating that Yoruba food is what made me gain weight!)
alt: BBENNETT .. Admixture is a 'little' deeper than mtDNA which is only related to your direct female line ancestry.... admixture encompasses your 'entire' genome.
vkn: howdy khathu
AYWalton: I have been to Nigeria several times---in fact hubby is there right now.
BBENNETT: oh no. The food must be good.:p
AYWalton: it is fantastic---and spicy! so if you like it hot---you will love it!
BBENNETT: Yes, I am aware of the difference between admixture and MtDNA and yDNA. I have just spent all of the money i can on testing and i am done with it.
daviss: Hello Khathu!
AYWalton: wassup khathu? you working on anything new these days?>
AYWalton: nothing new or working on nothing? lol
Khathu: i am just following others research adventures
alt: I know you know BBENNETT
BBENNETT: Anybody heading to Little Rock in September?
AYWalton: I plan to be there, BBENNETT, how about you?
BBENNETT: Have you seen the agenda for AAGHS?
AYWalton: yes, I got a schedule from Tamela Tenpenny-Lewis. not sure if they put it on the website yet.
BBENNETT: I am still trying to decide.
AYWalton: how about the Summit in Ft. Wayne?
BBENNETT: does it look interesting?
AYWalton: khathu are you going to any events soon? It looks good, if I get a chance I will email what I got in the mail from Tenpenny.
Khathu: I am thinking about attending ASALH Convention in Richmond, VA
BBENNETT: I am strongly leaning towards the Summit.
AYWalton: I am also really looking forward to going to Salt Lake City next year!
BBENNETT: when is the meeting in Richmond?
Khathu: Assn for the Study of African American Life and History October 5-9, 2011
Selma: I made my hotel reservations Khathu
AYWalton: going to run, folks. Have a great evening.
Selma: I figured then I would decide how long I would stay
Khathu: sounds like a good plan
daviss: that is a long conference but well worth it I am sure
Selma: I have never been would like to go and it is so close
daviss: outta here myself folks nite nite
alt: you will be threre to support ProfDru, huh Selma?
Khathu: have a good evening everyone
vkn: Great!!!!!! Nothing like support
alt: folks be splittin'... my turn laters ya'll
Selma: Me too..see you tomorrow
vkn: okies alt
Selma: Nite Mizz vee