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AYWalton: Good afternoon, all. howdy alt, daviss, JocqueMcCollum, keli1, Ms.Selma, seraph1959 Greetings, VKN!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Chatters: alt, AYWalton, daviss, di, jhonora, JocqueMcCollum, keli1, Nadasue, Selma, seraph1959, seventies soulchild, statustray, vkn
seventies soulchild: Good morning alt
alt: hello seventies soulchild, how you be's today?
seventies soulchild: Oh doing pretty good. how are you?
alt: tolerable as the olds folks used to say LOL
seventies soulchild: lol I was browsing through some more obits this morning. That is a great resource.
alt: Dru posted some nice photos of the meeting she, Selma & Angela were invovled with Saturday. yes, they can be.
seventies soulchild: I haven't even looked at them. After I left last night I hit the pillow hard.. lol
alt: I just looked this AM company didn't leave until 11:300 last night.. she really enjoyed the chat format.
seventies soulchild: Bring her on again! Better yet, let her sign up on Afrigeneas 
good morning vkn
vkn: heyyyyyy heyyyyyyyyy hey
alt: I did & sent her an email this AM to remind her of the sunday chat.
seventies soulchild: ok sounds good.
alt: hello vkn,,, how are ya today?
vkn: Guess I will have to stop bad mouthing Facebook
seventies soulchild: 
alt: why is that vkn?
seventies soulchild: What happened?
vkn: Just connected with a cousin
seventies soulchild: good morning jocqueMcCollum
vkn: o just walked in here
seventies soulchild: I've connected with SEVERAL cousins on Facebook. Its a joy
alt: I hear ya vkn... Facebook, used properly has some great advantages.
vkn: oops she just logged out
seventies soulchild: hi JocqueMcCollum... having computer issues this morning?
vkn: Howdy jocque my new cousin
seventies soulchild: welcome then vkn's cousin!
alt: vkn, the young lady from last night is also a Georgia researcher .... King, Banks & Harper
vkn: She lives in Atlanta and is about to launch a new venture on talk radio
alt: hello 'new' cousin jocqueMcCollum wonderful vkn
seventies soulchild: best of luck with that jocqueMcCollum
vkn: and it is super exciting cause she is kin on my KING research and also kin on my BELL maternal research
JocqueMcCollum: Good morning everyone
alt: vkn, also the Jones lady from Atlanta that was mentioned last night will be going to SC for the Conference. WoW, a double hit!!!! wonderful!!!!
vkn: Ohhhhh I am also may be going to SC conf
JocqueMcCollum: Having problems with the computer bare with me
alt: I know vkn, that's why I mentioned it.... she also said she is a friend of "Skip" Mason.
vkn: and more than that her father in law is a first cousin once removed
alt: that's close vkn )
vkn: His grandmother and my mother are sisters !!!!!!!!! whoop de doo
seventies soulchild: :} I'm starting to think that all black people are related here in the U.S. geez! lool
alt: JocqueMcCollum, good morning again,, and you have a wonderful cousin in vkn.
vkn: that be true seventies and she has been a member of my KingBarnes mailing list for over six or seven years
alt: be careful with cousin vkn tho' JocqueMcCollum, she'll put you to work ))
vkn: hehehehe alt shh shhh
seventies soulchild: :} yes indeedy!
alt: Oops. slips )
vkn: lol lol lol God'll getcha for that alt and you too seventies
seventies soulchild: so JocqueMcCollum, are you currently active in genealogy or just happened to come across Afrigeneas while conducting general research? lol vkn
alt: guess AYWAlton, ProfDru & Selma are worn out from yesterday and are 'sleeping in'. LOL
vkn: No she tagged me in a photo on face book
alt: ah so, that's why you've become a Facebook fan .
seventies soulchild: ok
vkn: but it was not me but a sister in law a nd I wrote [indignant] to make correction and she called me and the rest is our story
alt: my big event yesterday was going to a birthday party for 'Aunt' Thelma.. remember her from last year? She will be 104 y/o on the 12th of April.
vkn: Yes I spose they be tired but they were in chat last night for a few Happy birthday to Auntie Thelma at 104 Alt
alt: we thank you vkn
JocqueMcCollum: Hi again, I lost connection
vkn: Are we getting older as a group
alt: hang in there JocqueMcCollum, it can be a rough ride sometimes
JocqueMcCollum: Hi everyone I think I am in now. Pleasure to be here
vkn: JocqueMcCollum welcome and {{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}
alt: ditto from alt who is in Ohio JocqueMcCollum
vkn: oops bumpity seventies
seventies soulchild: yes I was bumped out... lol
vkn: JocqueMcCollum seventies is also into talk radio
seventies soulchild: Not anymore.... too much for me... its a lot of work
JocqueMcCollum: Thank you so much, I am just so excited,
alt: will you be 'talking' genealogy JocqueMcCollum?
vkn: alt Jocque is launching a three tiered genealogy radio show this summer
seventies soulchild: JocqueMcCollum I would suggest that you link up with Black Talk Radio. They are now giving free hosting classes and other courses to make your online radio show a success.
JocqueMcCollum: Oh that's wonderful I have a TV show about genealogy starting this summer
seventies soulchild: Post the link on Afrigeneas Joque, so we'll know when to listen
alt: that sounds great vkn.... congrats JocqueMcCollum where are you physically located JocqueMcCollum?
seventies soulchild: oh its a tv show. ok
vkn: Her be in hotlanta
JocqueMcCollum: It will air in local Atlanta market and we are hoping to sell it to a cable channell
seventies soulchild: will you be posting this on youtube as well?
JocqueMcCollum: I am in Snellivlle ga, right outside of Atlanta
seventies soulchild: ok
JocqueMcCollum: Yes I will post on youtube
seventies soulchild: great, make sure you post links every where you can
vkn: ahhhhh Snellville about 40 miles away from where I am?
alt: vkn,,, we gotta do sumpin' on Beginning Genealogy: In the 21st Century, with so much technology it is a lot different from the 'old' days.
seventies soulchild: Is there a meet up in the works? Hi keli1
alt: Hello keli1, how are ya?
JocqueMcCollum: yes we are not far
vkn: Howdy keli1 It sure is alt
keli1: good morning to all!
JocqueMcCollum: Hi Keli1
alt: the 'old' techniques still apply vkn, but there are so many differnt venues and resources that weren't available... even 10 years ago.
vkn: Keli1 how was presentation on yesterday
keli1: I just finished listening to Ishamel Reed-airing dirty laundry, it was good
vkn: Yes I saw Ishmael last sunday he was excellent
seventies soulchild: That's his latest work right?
keli1: @vkn I did not attend, I stayed home and lounged around, was not feeling well and took care of myself, warding off what ever my office has
vkn: oh dear hope you be feeling better
seventies soulchild: Make sure you pick up some lysol for work tomorrow.
keli1: yes his new book, I am feeling good, just needed to slow it down, my office is sick, all but 3 people, I am one of the 3 airing now on cspan is the underground railroad descendants
vkn: New book is Obama and the press
seventies soulchild: www.cspan.org
JocqueMcCollum: Sorry guys my compputer keeps stopping
keli1: thanks, I am taking care of me
vkn: Do you have java installed JocqueMcCollum
keli1: on booktv is Ken Walsh, Family of Freedom. I am loving booktv and cspan
seventies soulchild: Did anyone get to watch the DC bookfare yesterday?
vkn: JocqueMcCollum well I am soooooo glad you stopped in and I know you have things to do with your family so go here www.kingbarnes/forum and we hopefully will land line later today
seventies soulchild: They had 3 sessions. One was is Race still relevent... keli1 is this on booktv, what you're watching?
vkn: JocqueMcCollum well I am soooooo glad you stopped in and I know you have things to do with your family so go here www.kingbarnes.com/forum and we hopefully will land line later today
keli1: Art, did you see my posting regarding Joseph Davis being counted twice in the 1860 census, once in Wayne and once in Medina...
JocqueMcCollum: Hello again
alt: I know Shannon Prince on the UGRR show, I think she might be related to Lisa Lee.
keli1: Kenneth Walsh is now on booktv
vkn: scroll back to message for you JocqueMcCollum
keli1: on cspan 3 is the Underground railroad presentations, Betty DeRamus will be commenting as well
alt: No, I didn't keli1, but I saw where he registered for the CW draft in Wayne county, Ohio
JocqueMcCollum: Testing
alt: one.. two... thre.... )
keli1: yes, that is the one. but found two of them, both born in PA, census was taken in June in one county, August in the other...I am thinking it is the same one, family in both counties, etc
alt: Probably so keli1
seventies soulchild: ok watching afterwords on CSPan2 Ok I'm on CSpan2 watching AfterWords
vkn: and i see that Hait is giving a seminar on civil war descends next week
keli1: too close to not be, and he didn't arrive in Mich with his parents, etc, so war might be the reason, now the draft registration has come about
vkn: who is on afterwards?
alt: is that right... he is 'ambitious' I'll say that fro him vkn.
keli1: Hait's email was hacked into, he is working to fix it
seventies soulchild: Computer was 'stuck' again...
vkn: hmmmmmm
seventies soulchild: SMH
vkn: scroll back to message for you JocqueMcCollum
alt: ah, to be young again and to be able to get a 'piece of the genealogy action'
seventies soulchild: lol
alt: In today's media & social networking activities I'm jealous/envious )
vkn: but alt we are better experienced to absorb the availability of the new content as opposed to the new tools
keli1: smh Art...lol you have enough to do
seventies soulchild: The book 'Family Of Freedom' is being discussed. interesting. Its about blacks who worked for the white house You are participating in the technology revolution now!
alt: I know keli1 and you are so right vkn.
JocqueMcCollum: I am back everyone I lost connection
alt: wb JocqueMcCollum
seventies soulchild: Mine keeps dropping off too ... aggravating
vkn: okies JocqueMcCollum wb
keli1: I experienced unstable connection today when on familysearch.org, has anyone else? is there some bad weather going on somewhere?
seventies soulchild: I'm experiencing it right now.
vkn: Have not peeked out today so me not be knowing keli
seventies soulchild: Well let me get to this turkey and dill havarti cheese sandwich that has been calling my all morning.
vkn: answer answer lol
seventies soulchild: lol I am in about 2 mins Alright y'all have a good day.
alt: seventies soulchild, Elizabeth Keckly (sp) is a new heroine with her stance on black's not complaing about about white folk celebrating the CW, but doing something on their own... kinda like the black compliants of the CW150 celebrations by the Confederates. do sumpin' yourself!!!!! and her stance was in 1865.
vkn: alt what is a good time to call you on whenever
alt: I'm always available for you vkn... )
vkn: okies
keli1: Art, another thought regarding the Davis in Ohio, also in Wayne I found another Davis, who was white, died at age 92, and was born in Franklin Co. PA, I am wondering if there is a connection, to mine... just found today...lol
vkn: Heyyyyyyyyyyy Mz Selma
alt: I would imagine considering the time period keli1
Selma: Good morning everyone
vkn: Heyyyyyyyyy daviss
Selma: Oh keli..so sorry you missed yesterday..AY & Dru were wonderful Hello Jocque
alt: Hello Selma, how you feeling today?.... other than tired )
vkn: Seventies just logged off
keli1: yes...my davis is one of three children or grand children of a slave and plantation...so I might be hot on the trail
alt: hello daviss, good to see ya
Selma: Still tired...my Mom and sister are coming down today..gotta clean my house
daviss: hello alt, JocqueMcCollum,Selma Keli1 and vkn!
keli1: Selma what a gret turnout, Dru says it was great, loved the pictures great turnout
alt: photos say 'Y'all did it Selma Congrats
vkn: Selma and daviss meet my just met this morning cousin Jocque
Selma: Oh I have to go andlook at the pictures...the chile had on a Union soldier cap..it was priceless
keli1: yes she did, it was adorable, also the display of the soldiers
alt: I saw that .. quite innovative
daviss: awesome! hello there Jocque!
vkn: I saw that and it is funny Selma
Selma: Well welcome "cousin" to our fearless leader VKN (with caps) yes, the chile had little toy soldiers..
vkn: I was laughing at the pics on facebook
alt: ProfDru outdid herself with the
Selma: I am afaid to go and look...
alt: niceties (sp) great job!!!
daviss: vkn, leafshakers last name is McCollum
JocqueMcCollum: Hello everyone again, I think everytime I send a message I loose connection
Selma: and just as importantly..the folks were ON TIME..actually early..we had to tell them to sit down, while we finished setting up..we told them the door would open at 9:30, 70% were there by 9 or 9:15..I told them I was pround of them
vkn: I know daviss but not bamer based I don't think
keli1: that is wonderful...they know you do not Play! @selma
Selma: LOL
daviss: ok, I think its her married name but leafshaker is a bamer lol
alt: that's wonderful Selma.. yo udid a good job in promoting the event ... and avoided going to jail too.. LOL LOL
seraph1959: hello folks
Selma: I remember the name leafshaker..
vkn: Seraph!!!!!!!!!!! howdy doody lady
seraph1959: hiya vkn :-)
Selma: Yes, I did not have to "cuss" at anyone yesterday.. LOL
alt: Hello seraph1959, how are ya & how have ya been?
daviss: Seraph1959!!! hello there
Selma: Hey seraph..long time no see
keli1: lol, that would of made a great presentation
seraph1959: hi Alt amd Selma , I am great , hope you all are the same
vkn: well you got good thanx seraph for that post on the military forum ['scuse me] lol
daviss: It was a great informative post
JocqueMcCollum: @ daviss, that's my husbands name I am from Georgia from Mays and Walker family
Selma: Keli..had a gentlemen who called to register on Wed...then started conversation about how we had to keep an open mind..cause thousands of black folk "fought for the Confederacy"..I used a bad word
seraph1959: cool beans , I was glad to share that info with the help of daviss
Selma: and he was black...
seraph1959: ut oh Selma ...
vkn: are you hitting the send button Jocque ??? daviss she be cousin via her hubby
daviss: i must ask her Jocque where her hubby was from
keli1: lol, but nothing wrong with which side they fought,
JocqueMcCollum: @ Selma thanks for the welcome, glad to be in
keli1: folks should not be ashamed just need to tell the facts!
daviss: ya never know lol
Selma: He had no facts...he did not have anyone as far as he knew who did..he just figured they didi
alt: right keli1 & not spread the myths... facts will win every time.
daviss: lol Selma I thought he said he had papers
seraph1959: I am going to NARA this summer , anyone know of a cheap 4 star hotel , my sis and I can stay at? :p We will be there maybe 3 days then going to a writers conference in VA
keli1: I would assume we might find folks on both side...lol, you thought he had papers...
Selma: No "that was the other preacher"...LOL
keli1: are you kidding me seraph, I am going in July
Selma: Him I am going to see...
JocqueMcCollum: Yes, I am hitting send it just seems to take about 3 minutes to go thru
Selma: I had 2 preachers call me that day
vkn: Seraph have you considered a timeshare ???
keli1: @seraph are you doing the institute or a research trip?
vkn: oh ok JocqueMcCollum
alt: Selma, did you give them the 'eye' when they came in ... and that kept them under control )
seraph1959: Keli my trip is end of June no will look into that vkn
Selma: The older gentlemen with the "papers" didn't come..he I will go and see
keli1: okay, I thought you were referencing the NARA institute and there is no cheap hotels in DC in my opinion..lol
seraph1959: my trip is for research
Selma: the other one did..we introduced ourselves..I smiled.. LOL
daviss: seraph
keli1: @Selma, do you know who came the farthest to attend
Selma: You might want to look at NVA seraph and take metro in
seraph1959: my sis said we will probably have to stay like in Arlington
Selma: Elvatrice from Richmond,, I think..
vkn: That is why I suggested a time share arrangement keli do you know of any
seraph1959: yes daviss
Selma: We had Norfolk, VA Beach, Portsmouth, Hampton
daviss: oops seraph1959 will Nara there be any different than the one in FT Worth
keli1: no I don't, I am paying $157 per night (but have a roommate) right by NARA and that is a special rate
seraph1959: thanks Selma
vkn: Selma I see that David was there?
Selma: yes..he was..he loved every minute of it..LOL
daviss: or are you just killing two birds...
vkn: Grrrrrrrrrrreat
Selma: Jeez..I gotta go see this pictures.. LOL
seraph1959: I think so daviss , isn't Ft. Worth just specific to a certain military branch ?
daviss: not sure seraph1958
seraph1959: killing two birds daviss , my sis is more interested in writers conference and NARA and LOC are more my trip
keli1: Cornel West on msnbc Obama and the Black agenda, very interesting! West might be losing cool points in my opinion
vkn: Ohhhhh I thought you were going to DC Seraph
seraph1959: I am vkn
vkn: oh ok
daviss: lol you know I figured that but was thinking I would hear you are closer to Issiac's story
vkn: Is Cornel screaming keli
seraph1959: we will also be in roanake
keli1: West and Sharpton! smh, but gotta love them
Selma: Oh roanoke What channel are you watching keli What is in roanoke
seraph1959: Isaac wants me to write so maybe during the writers conference I'll get some inspiration :-)
vkn: Oh Roanoke
keli1: msnbc, it is a commerical
daviss: lol I hear ya seraph1959
seraph1959: of course I can not remember the name of the University but it is a women's college
Selma: What does West wear around his neck?
keli1: scarf,
seraph1959: Hollins or something like that
Selma: Seraph..FB RG 105 (where I found the Caroline County list) is now on line and indexed
alt: west, like those 'tenured' prof's at Oxford & Cambridge LOL
keli1: I think it is linked to a medical issue
vkn: Selma it was a nice memorial service for GFS Sam and GFL george was there. It was hosted by Dear Myrtlr Myrtle
alt: ah so , with West ?
Selma: I am glad vkn
seraph1959: cool beans Selma what are the initials ? Free Blacks
vkn: and those are wonderful records selma
Selma: give me your email address..seraph..
seraph1959: seraph1959@yahoo.com
Selma: Its enough to make you weep vkn..I did when I first saw them in manuscript for
seraph1959: I know I need to be specific and get a focus for trip , but I just wanna take it all in lol
vkn: lol I know selma
Selma: I am going to forward the email I sent out about the records to explain and links.
seraph1959: thanks bunches Selma
Selma: Talking about Klan on CSpan History
keli1: yea cspan 3, I love American History tv, I hope folks are watching it
Selma: Talking about Indiana..
daviss: wb JocqueMcCollum
Selma: They weren't rednecks.... But the better sort..Indiana has the membership lists..
vkn: Jocque have you connected with the Atlanta genealogy and history group
keli1: nope, well known upstanding citizens, lol, Indiana I think is the beginning, Nathan Bedford Forrest
Selma: The people who joined were the middle class, educated, lawyers, physicians, rotary club...
daviss: yep I think Indy was the atart of it all
Selma: Not the unwashed..thats what the man just said..
daviss: atart = start
Selma: I was about christianity, all family values..all americans
keli1: Catholics were an enemy of the clan, that was interesting
alt: Indiana elected a known Klan member as the Governor of the State in the 1920's
daviss: not like them keli1
Selma: I might invite this man to come to our group
vkn: Gwen Iffel and a Michelle was on CSpan BookTV yesterday keli did you see them?
Selma: I say lets out them all...put their names on the board
keli1: No I missed that one VKN.
daviss: lol lol Selma mabe then Trump might come out
keli1: Before people check out, sometimes they have a change of heart.
daviss: like Wallace
Selma: Oh please..would somebody please comb that man's hair and put him back in a box
keli1: Did you see that Trump brought Patricia Kluge house, that mess was all by design in my mind
daviss: lol
vkn: I agree Selma the question was "Does Race Still Matter" keli i will post a link to Books forum
keli1: that will be good vkn, I need to find out when it reairs
vkn: actually I will try and embed the discussion
Selma: We didn't make RACE an issue...white folk did..they put astericks, (col), negro, black, etc.. on all the records
daviss: JocqueMcCollum are you researching your lines or the McCollum lines?
alt: Selma, from a genealogical perspective... thank goodnes they did LOL
keli1: they have selected every name/identity that people of color go by, I did not choose any of them so true Art
vkn: true dat alt
Selma: True, true alt..
keli1: the lynching in Marion Ind is why my peeps left Indiana and hopped on train and got put off in GR Mich
daviss: wow keli1!
Selma: Are you listening to the show vkn? Did the man just say they didn't lynch anyone in Indiana
vkn: and keli that is also why at least 2 requests have been made for AfriGeneas to initiate a forum on prison records
alt: can't find the link , but 'Without Sanctuary' is a great book on Lynchings in the United states.
vkn: No Selma I will get it later
Selma: His name is James Madison..from Indiana University
keli1: the lynching was not a Klan lynching but a mob lynching
alt: we had a lynching here in Springfield, OH 7 one in Urbana, Oh 12 mi, from here . both around 1904-1910 timeframe.
vkn: Sounds like same same to me keli
keli1: @vkn that is good, I am searching for an 1838 court and prison info in Virginia
daviss: I told ya'll my cousins gradfather was lynched in Navasota Texas
keli1: I think they are saying the Klan was not in robes, etc
vkn: What should we name such a forum y'all
Selma: seraph..I just sent the email.. Have you checked LVA keli..
keli1: I can take some horrible scenes, etc but the wax museum in Baltimore, made me sick, not the slave ship exibits, but the lynching displayed in the basement
vkn: What should we name such a forum y'all Keli alt ???
alt: vkn, on the 'incarceration' Forum, couldn't the mission statement of the Schools, Institution, etc. Forums be expanded to include those prison queries
Selma: I like that idea alt..
vkn: Yeppers it could alt
keli1: I have searched but not enough, the court record was found in Richmond, now looking for the prison to further explore the time spent, etc
Selma: LVA...has collection of prison records..think folks who were executed..not pictures of the execution..but their prison photo and files.
keli1: the record ordered time in jail and prison, Yes art, I like the name
alt: well, it's about time AYWalton LOL
vkn: Good idea alt I had given it prior thought and your suggestions cements it
alt: great minds vkn .... LOL LOL LOL
Selma: Hey AY
AYWalton: Good afternoon, all. howdy alt, daviss, JocqueMcCollum, keli1, Ms.Selma, seraph1959
keli1: or Institutionalization records if you include other locations
AYWalton: Greetings, VKN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
keli1: howdy....AY
daviss: hi AYWalton!!
keli1: (Black Agenda is still airing on MSNBC)
vkn: HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY AYW I hear that you were the *******Star******** on yesterday
Selma: We had 2 Stars..vkn.. LOL
AYWalton: lol, uh oh,is that right, vkn?
alt: that Forum would then include prisons, jails, metal institutions, etc.
AYWalton: I had fun yesterday.
Selma: VKN..she had us taking her to cemtaries.. lOL
AYWalton: was fun seeing David Paterson there, too.
jhonora: Afternoon all!
alt: metal=mental
AYWalton: and yes, I visited 5 cemeteries in 2 days.
vkn: Well they are a pair Selma in your stardom
AYWalton: hey hey hey, it's honoray!!! Howdy jhonora!
keli1: Yes that is where I was going Art
AYWalton: Hello JocqueMcCollum
jhonora: Hey AYWalton! Hello JocqueMcCollum
AYWalton: Oh, I fixed the slide, Ms. Selma.
Selma: Thank you.. LOL
AYWalton: I am off to St. Louis next weekend btw.
vkn: heyyyyy JHonora did you semd me a statement re mission
AYWalton: but this will be a Nat.Am presentation.
seraph1959: hi AYW and jhhonora
keli1: congrats on a good time in Virginia!
jhonora: No, I didn't, I completely forgot. Will work on it today
AYWalton: it was a great time!! Such rich history on VA soil.
JocqueMcCollum: hello @ aywalton and jhonora
vkn: Well AYW is the SC confere still a hanging chad between us?
Selma: I am going to give you the names from Constance book about who left from Gloucester Point that your passed..that got on a Union ship in the summer
AYWalton: Selma while driving back---goodness the markers!! In one strip within half a miles there were six historical markers! oh wonderful! Would love to see that list of names.
Selma: I told you I am in GROUND ZERO..for the country and black folk
keli1: Virginia is the mother state
AYWalton: and the markers kept popping up again and again and again!
alt: Well AYWalton, ALL Roads lead 'out of' Virginia LOL lOL lOL
AYWalton: All the way to the Potomac River! it is amazing!
keli1: and in to Virginia!...
vkn: lol
AYWalton: everyone of those historic estates, you know have out history on that soil.
seraph1959: I will never forget ...that statement from Selma about VA
keli1: my son told me when I was planning my move to VA, when you get there you will learn why all our ancestors left VA, I still moved to VA
Selma: Not to take away from Florida..I mean for British North America..
AYWalton: who can forget it, seraph1959? It is embedded in our minds forever! (but she might be right, too.)
alt: and she won't let you forget it eaither seraph1959 LOL LOL
jhonora: Y'all pushing Virginia mighty hard, don't get me started on the real fatherland lol
seraph1959: teehee
vkn: Selma has been saying that since pre 1990
keli1: what was Selma's statement?
Selma: All Roads lead back to VA
keli1: oh heck ya....lol @Selma
AYWalton: howdy ms. daviss!
daviss: :}
vkn: well Jhonora if there is a mother then there is bound to be a father even if he is in Louisiana
alt: Oops.. back' is the operative word that we keep forgetting about.
vkn: OheeeO
seraph1959: wb daviss, when you coming back to Tx ?
statustray: Good day everyone ;-)
daviss: not this year seraph1959 sorry to say
vkn: hey statustray how you be
jhonora: Hello statustray
keli1: I am getting fed up with the what is wrong and what we should do about our education system---let's start with the truth and facts, then tell it!
seraph1959: hi statusray
alt: hello statustray
daviss: hi jhonora and statustray
statustray: hey, hey, hey!
keli1: (watching msnbc) it will put me in a bad mood
vkn: Agreed keli but seems we be scared to be direct with white peeps
keli1: time for tea (I meditate, I pray, I drink green tea and still want to slap the mess out of someone)
Selma: LOL.. Ilike that keli
vkn: Well keli by the authority vested in me etc etc etc
statustray: keli1: lol.....
keli1: lol
Selma: Hi status tray..
statustray: hi there Selma
alt: yep keli1, but the media and the rich folks have to keep the 'masses' stirred up by thinking black folks are getting over... gotta keep them people in their place
daviss: lol @ vkn
vkn: yes alt media be forgetting Obama is half white
Selma: Jocque..this is a genealogy chat..but we can go on some time..did you have any questions research related?
alt: should never had freed them in the first place... seems to be the mindset
AYWalton: statustray!!! I did not see you slip in the room!!!
keli1: there is a book, can't think of the name of it, talked about the education in the 1800s for blacks, etc
AYWalton: but vkn, don't forget that the black half cancels his white side---so to them he is black.
statustray: Hey there AYWalton ;-) Good seeing you!
keli1: hey there Statustray! good to see you
alt: he be's having more than 'one drop' LOL LOL lOL
AYWalton: there is a spirit of meanness that prevails the political and social mindset and it is a blatant "in your face" mindset.
vkn: Selma Jocque is a new found cousin to me and she is launching a genealogy TV show this summer from Atlanta
AYWalton: Like Glen Beck taking his events to the Lincoln memorial on the anniversary of the March on Washington!
Selma: Well after AY presentation yesterday...no one freed us..we took it
AYWalton: we had better wake up, and pay attention.
statustray: Good seeing you too Keli1 ;-)
vkn: ou are too funny AYW
AYWalton: the unsung revoluntion.
Selma: Oh gosh..I guess none of us will be on the show
AYWalton: lol
vkn: DI soooooooooooooo glad to see you!!!!!!!!!!!
AYWalton: howdy di
Selma: Afternoon di
keli1: AY we still gettin' slapped front, back, sideways, etc....just think of our research,
daviss: they cancelled his show or they fired him (Beck)
di: hello all
daviss: hi there di
alt: gonna run y'all.. getting ready to see if 'tiger' can mount a comeback
di: vkn i am glad to see you as well... i missed you all...
statustray: hey di ;-)
daviss: later alt!
vkn: di I hope you are ok I was concerned
keli1: oh I don't need to be on any show...my theory, if people are hungry- you feed them! I don't need a consultant with a report/study to tell me that.
vkn: AAAA AAAAAAA Men keli
keli1: by any means necessary!
Selma: I was just joking keli...she is having a genealogy show
AYWalton: you got that right, keli1!
keli1: lol, no you weren't Selma, lol...
di: yeah i am fine I started a new job in January that runs thru tax season. It was suppose to be 3 days a week......
vkn: ohh ok :::WHEW::: {{{{{{{{{di}}}}}}}}}
di: what have i missed good...
keli1: what comes around goes around!...I love doing research...now they saying we spend more on prison than education...what comes around goes around....okay I am going to get my green tea
Nadasue: Hello everyone
statustray: Hey there Nadasue
vkn: Nadasue how are you long time no type
daviss: hello there Nadasue!
Nadasue: lol... yeah, i've been in and out of town and in and out of sickness 
hiya daviss statustray
statustray: Sorry to hear that Nadasue.... it's good to see you again..... yes, it's been a while
AYWalton: well Nadasur
vkn: ph dear hope you be not feeling blue nadasue
AYWalton: Nadasue
statustray: Are you doing better now?
Nadasue: Trying to get better... still a bit under the weather. Thanks for asking, statustray Hi AYWalton AYWalton Sorry I couldn't make it out to hear you yesterday. Just didn't feel well enough
AYWalton: daviss that was a wonderful article on the soldiers in Ft. Smith. I will send you the link to the blog.
statustray: Glad you're back ;-)
AYWalton: that's ok Nadasue
daviss: thanks AYWalton!
Selma: Hey Nadasue..you missed a great seminar yesterday. Oh just read back..sorry you didn't feel well
Nadasue: I'm sure... Sorry I had to miss it. Thx
vkn: AYW you and Dru and Selma need to take that shoe on the FTWayne and Gwinnett road
Selma: Um...thats a thought I didn't do anything, but tell everyone what to do.. lOL
AYWalton: I might end up presenting one of them on Gwinett road, for sure, vkn. and also for Ft. Wayne, now that you mention it.
vkn: Selma you be the head .... lol
Selma: I am good at that.. LOL
AYWalton: in fact for the 2012 Summit in SLC---we can do a road show for that one!
Selma: That would be great a For Wayne and or SLC..for sure
AYWalton: something to plan for.
daviss: now that one I might be able to see SLC that is
jhonora: same here, in SLC
AYWalton: I was excited to get to visit 5 cemeteries and to visit Ft. Monroe as well, and to see Emancipation Oak to boot!!!
vkn: jhonora are you going to FT Wayne
AYWalton: had a fulfilling visit for sure!
daviss: brrrrr freezing brb gonna get a sweater
di: slc?
Selma: I took you to 4...how many did Dru take you too..I think you went to more than 5
AYWalton: Selma I found out that the little building near Emancipation Oak was the Butler school established in 1863.
Selma: OK great Not a replica..the real deal
AYWalton: amazing!!!! such incredible history!!!!
Nadasue: Oh, you went to the Great Oak. Good. Where else did you go?
vkn: tape and glue for you Jocque
AYWalton: there should be an ongoing Black history tour of that area. Emancipation Oak is stately.
Selma: There is a tour
daviss: ok back
AYWalton: oh wonderful---is it given year round?
statustray: Hi there JocqueMcCollum
seraph1959: Selma thanks so much , even though I have seen the page of ancestors , it still makes the heart swell
AYWalton: visited the Newsome House, saw the James Fields House and found the James Fields grave.
Nadasue: Ahh, that's great. Sounds like you were with Dru.
vkn: Jocque you are sitting with the creme de la creme of the Black genealogy crop worldwide right in this room
daviss: di SLC is Salt Lake City
AYWalton: and visited Hampton National, Hampton (non-military) cemetery, Union St. Cemetery, Pleasant Shade, Bethel AME cemetery (gate was locked) but got a couple of shots with the camera. And Selma took me to Ft. Monroe!!! All I could say was WOW! the first contrabands were there!
Nadasue: AYWalton Nice! I was waiting to hear that one! AYWalton My father's grave is at Hampton National
AYWalton: I wonder where Baker, Townsend and Mallory met with Butler? In Quarter 1, or somewhere else?
keli1: Hi Nadasue!
JocqueMcCollum: @ vkn I can tell, I just can't participate because of this computer, I will try and logg in again
Nadasue: Good job, Selma keli1 Hi!
JocqueMcCollum: I think its working now
Selma: Read the book I sent you AY.. Free to Fight..its in there.LOL
Nadasue: AYWalton Wish I could have been there with you all.
AYWalton: And Mary Peake taught right there under Emancipation Oak!!!
Nadasue: Yep!
vkn: not to worry Jocque I will send you the log and we can discuss the proceedings off line
jhonora: Oak ... are y'all talking about Hampton?
JocqueMcCollum: Hi everyone, this is my first chat and my computer is not co-operating ,
daviss: thinking mabe Jocque may need to upgrade java vkn
Nadasue: Yes jhonora
AYWalton: sorry to hear about your computer not cooperating JocqueMcCollum.
vkn: and I am laying claim to Townsend AYW
AYWalton: where are your ancestors from Jocque?
Nadasue: Story of my life JocqueMcCollum
AYWalton: I like that, vkn!
JocqueMcCollum: @ VKN Thanks, @ daviss I think that Java is the problem
AYWalton: Selma is there much known about Baker, Townsend and Mallory after the war?
Selma: Not as far as I can tell.. I went looking for them a couple of weeks ago..
JocqueMcCollum: Sumter, Lee and Terrell County GA
AYWalton: yes jhonora I was in Hampton for a conference yesterday. Had a wonderful trip there!
Nadasue: AYWalton When I was growing up, my family used to picnic under the oak. We used to climb on it, but that is not allowed anymore.
jhonora: I knew it was in Va., but did not know Hampton, great, AY!
JocqueMcCollum: I am stalled again
Selma: I have a friend who does Eliz county research going to contact her this week to see what she had
AYWalton: it is a beautiful tree.
vkn: outskirts of Albany GA lol
AYWalton: right there on the campus!
jhonora: AY, my presentation y'tday went well also.
AYWalton: oh where did you present, jhonora?
JocqueMcCollum: I have Smothers family that I was able to trace to Buckingham Virg in 1820's
jhonora: The Amer. Educational Research Assn. conf. was in N.O.
AYWalton: and what was your topic jhonora?
vkn: and tell us about the present Jhonoray
Nadasue: That's great jhonora
JocqueMcCollum: @ VKN, yes
jhonora: Lay-run cath. schools, on a panel on AA cath. education.
Selma: Oh great jocque..were they free blacks
AYWalton: Lay-run---now that is different!!! Where were these schools mostly, jhonora? Louisiana based or other states too?
jhonora: I focused on La., and Gulf Coast. Many existed into 1920s
keli1: Jocque, have you done any research in Buckingham?
AYWalton: that is quite fascinating. I wonder how teaching of the cathechism was done? I mean I would think that the diocese would have had some kind of oversight.
jhonora: They had regular episcopal visits and the teachers were usually well-educated.
AYWalton: ahhh ok that makes sense. wb JocqueMcCollum. Am handing you the super glue!
keli1: we/AAHGS Central VA has a couple members with deep roots in Buckingham
JocqueMcCollum: @ Selma, some of them were
Selma: What surnames do you research?
keli1: the next presentation is on Buckingham, Perkins, Ligon, etc..by Caruso Brown
Selma: I research Stewart's who were FB"s in Campbell County..and Sparrow's from Nelson
daviss: lots of Ligon's ventured into Texas Keli1
AYWalton: Selma any idea if Baker, Townsend and Mallory remained in the area after the war?
keli1: yea I was wondering if they are related to Terry's
Selma: I am checking AY...
Nadasue: AYWalton You might want to visit www.dailypress.com and read back on the Civil War series they did last month
AYWalton: thanks nadasue
keli1: also Booker and Gordon's
JocqueMcCollum: @ Mays, Bivins, Nash, Reddicks, Walkers, Smothers, Gary, High and Nelms
Selma: I have to check with my friend...I think I found one..but
Nadasue: It focused on the local history and there is a lot about Baker, Townsend, and Mallory in there
daviss: Nelms! hmmm they are in Tx also
Nadasue: AYWalton We have streets, schools, etc. named for them
AYWalton: I can imagine so.
JocqueMcCollum: @ AY Walton Thanks
jhonora: Selma, are there good records in Halifax, Va.?
AYWalton: Selma I see a statement on a site that says that Grand Contraband Camp is really what is now downtown Hampton! so I was right there in the middle of it all! truly ground zero for sure!
keli1: think about it AY, close to the shores...
Selma: That is a Char Bah question jhonora who knows all Halifax
daviss: If I remember correctly JocqueMcCollum, Edwin Nelms was head of the group that went to Tx with their slaves
keli1: Is Halifax in the northern neck?
Selma: Thats what I thought too AY..but on the map we have it appears to be to further and to the right.. No Halifax is not in the Northern Neck I think it was all over that area AY..
AYWalton: I know. You are probably right.
keli1: Char does a lot in the northern Arlington, etc area
AYWalton: will play with Google Street view some more to get a better glimpse!
Selma: Remember this map is 1873..so maybe that was all that was left..
AYWalton: quite true.
daviss: wb di
di: thanks my modem went out
AYWalton: going to pull out my magnifying glass for the other map. modem di? you are dialing up?
Selma: You did keep the other map right?
AYWalton: oh yes, I have one of the copies. that is great!!!
keli1: I am beginning to do research in Loudoun/Fairfax counties, it is amazing what records they have
AYWalton: it tells who occupied some of those sites.
Selma: That is a Union Map..
vkn: Back but only for a minute Newspapers forum was JUST LAUNCHED waiting for Tim to make first post
AYWalton: going to really play with that map later now that I can magnify it.
Selma: Yes..like the Gilmer Confederate Maps..are maps with names of areas still in Confederate hands with nams on it of owners
AYWalton: Thank you so much for the copy!!!
keli1: That is wonderful VKN...
AYWalton: oh wow!!!!
daviss: wb nadasue
AYWalton: fantastic, news vkn!!!
di: no not dial up, it is a clear dsl modem
Selma: I love the Gilmer confederate maps
Nadasue: Thanks, vicky
di: when i log to much on it goes out sometimes
jhonora: Y'all know, one of the first if not first occasions when Lincoln suggested citizenship rights for black veterans was to the Gov. of La.
daviss: now vkn I can get some sleep lol
jhonora: I like the Gilmer maps too
AYWalton: an interesting fact that I did not know, jhonora!
keli1: no Jhonora...Ididn't know, interesting
AYWalton: LA had more USCT regiments than any other state.
jhonora: It came after he received a delegation of two black men from N.O.
vkn: Next forum will merge with Writers and the name will be changed to Life Events Forum Birth Wed Marriage Stories celebrations Obits
Selma: Did you check the VA numbers AY
AYWalton: going to check that right now, Selma.
Selma: You are merging what with what vkn?
vkn: Next forum will merge with Writers and the name will be changed to Life Events Forum Birth Wed Marriage Stories celebrations Obits what say daviss alt Selma and all
keli1: wonder why LA was highlighted in that sense
AYWalton: VKN what is the name of the new forum?
vkn: Changing the name of writers selma
Selma: Oh...well lots of forums..still folks just post everywhere they land.. LOL
keli1: with the draft registration records up, I hope folks are grabbing more info on USCT's
daviss: will that eliminate the Obits section vkn?
vkn: No daviss
AYWalton: Hmm..........Selma---there were six regiments organized in VA.
Selma: AY..what did you call the folks in towns who go to everyone's funeral and collect programs
daviss: my grandfather Selma lol
vkn: Let us webinar about it sometime Monday evening
AYWalton: so that would be approximately 6000 men. (give or take a couple of hundred.)
Selma: So that would be about 6,000 men
AYWalton: lol, I called them Funeral Marys.
vkn: The Obit Lady?
Selma: Oh..I missed the name Everybody laughed and shook their heads in agreement
AYWalton: everybody knows somebody like that!
keli1: lol
Selma: The group in Gloucestor has a project collecting funeral programs..think they collected a couple of hundreds, thousands..working with LDS to have them filmed..
AYWalton: on lady in your group came up to me and admitted hat she has a large collection herself. that is great!
vkn: Gotta run and break fast glucose level is on a fast track down. Hope to speak with you later today Jocque my new found kin
AYWalton: take care vkn!
Selma: The road you drove down..17..that area.
AYWalton: I am glad to hear about that project in Gloucester! yes, I drove right through it again. Trust me every sign on the side of the road I saw.
Selma: I will have to find out who that person is AY
keli1: isn't that close to William and Mary?
Selma: No W&M is in Williamsburg
AYWalton: and around Warner VA I was amazed to see how many historic sites there were.
Selma: But its close in a car...
keli1: right but isn't Gloucester near there
Nadasue: Selma That's interesting. I have about 300-400 here from Franklin County, NC.
Selma: Gloucester is where you land up when you cross the York River from Yorktown Its a Bridge..so you probably won't cross keli
Nadasue: Was planning to index them and put them on ncgenweb site, but wonder if lds would be interested in actually scanning them?
Selma: I can check Nadasue..
keli1: lol, I am familiar with Yorktown, I think that is where my peeps came in from Angola in 1619,,,
AYWalton: Keli you don't do bridges?
keli1: no that is where his son was born i think, Heck NO, no bridges or tunnels
Nadasue: Great. I have some that go as far back as the 1940's but most are from 60's 70's and 80
Selma: Actually they came into Old Fort Comfort in hamtpon..and were taken up to Jamestown and Yorktown
Nadasue: 80's
AYWalton: so what do you do when you are driving and one is approaching?
jhonora: I know a researcher who doesn't do elevators, so has to take stairs in archives, libraries, etc.
keli1: I don't, someone else might drive, for that area, I make it to Newport news and Hampton and don't cross the line when I have to go to VA BCH.
daviss: lol AYWalton mabe she does what my ex does when he sees a cotton field. Screeches on his brakes and turns around
keli1: lol, too funny daviss...
AYWalton: amazing.
Selma: For the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnell they have staff that will drive you across for those who are afraid..think you have to call ahead
keli1: a few years ago I got stuck in the Va. beach tunnel, it was awful
Nadasue: Selma Really? I've never heard that in all my years!
AYWalton: I don't like that one either.
jhonora: I don't like animals, I make sure any and all critters are secure before entering a house.
Selma: I saw it on TV Nadasue...a couple of years ago..it was a documentary..showed to ladies being drived across by an employee
AYWalton: oh yes, they do drive you across.
Nadasue: Wow... too funny
keli1: I didn't know that..wow...was in a traffic jam heading to visit my staff, was stopped in tunnel for about an hour, horrifying
AYWalton: how long is the VA Beach tunnel?
keli1: you are under the ocean....in these tunnel's not like the tunnel leaving PA to Ohio
AYWalton: did not realize that there was a tunnel to get to VA Beach.
keli1: I think it is a little bit over a mile
Nadasue: It's the hampton roads bay bridge tunnel... it's about 3 miles on the bridge.. i think the tunnel is about a mile
Selma: Two exits from where you were AY..is the bridge tunnel that takes you from Hamtpon to Norfolk, then VA Beach
AYWalton: I don't mind bridges, as long as they are not super high. And the one from Annapolis to the Eastern shore is very high!!! It never seems secure enough for me. I don't like it either. so VA Beach is a tunnel ride away form Norfolk. Never have been there, so was not sure where it was.
keli1: the height is more my issue with bridges, but a tunnel is a tunnel
Selma: Then there is the Cheasapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel from VA Beach to Eastern Shore..which is really long
AYWalton: yes, my husband took that one.
daviss: jhonora have you been on that 26 mi bridge in La
AYWalton: He stopped at the restaurant in the middle to buy some souvenirs. Lake Ponchatrain Bridge!!
daviss: yes!!!
jhonora: Yes, several times daviss. Very scenic
Nadasue: AYWalton No, the tunnel is between hampton and norfolk. Va Beach is about 20 mins from there
AYWalton: I did not have the nerve to drive over that bridge. not the height but the length that would have kind of gotten to me.
keli1: i used to drive the key west fl two lane highway and said this is too much, I only fly now
daviss: I drove it after the hurricaine and it was really scary
keli1: oh gosh Daviss...are you in VA too?
Selma: Yes,,I don't like High Bridges..or actually roads that go up and have signs that say Scenic View..
AYWalton: all of the Florida Keys are connnected by bridges.
daviss: now this one was in La Keli1
Nadasue: Selma Do you mind the James River Bridge?
Selma: You know that area around Charlottesville..on 64..freaks me out
daviss: now = no
Selma: No..cause its flat
keli1: I am familiar with that one in LA...
Nadasue: JRB goes up high in the middle
AYWalton: as long as the road is connected to the earth I don't mind. Bridges are not connected to the earth, and high bridges really are amazing and scary at the same time.
keli1: what around C-ville Selma
AYWalton: what is that bridge in Louisiana that goes way up high?
Selma: I start hyperventilating..when I see the Scenic View uphead sign 64 keli
AYWalton: lol @ Selma
Nadasue: keli1 I think she means in the mountains right Selma? Going towards Staunton?
keli1: are you talking about 64 going over Afton Mt? heading to Staunton
jhonora: They are widening the Huey P. Long Bridge, eighty years old with one narrow lane and space for the train. Scary!
Nadasue: Yeah
Selma: I keep my eyes firmly on the pavement..and don't look at the view..yes keli
AYWalton: oh its the Huey Long Bridge.
daviss: Isnt that the one that if near Westwego La AYWalton? right Long
Selma: Yes, Nadasue.. Afton Mt
keli1: okay I thought so...I am okay with Afton, I drive it a lot, two scenics spots, I just keep looking forward, but I do okay on that one, where is Huey P at?
daviss: my daughter had to pull over and let me drive that one AYWalton
jhonora: daviss, you're correct
Nadasue: keli1 My only issue with that is when the fog (CLOUDS) are low
keli1: also take the inside lane, lol, I am nearing 60 and still have the phobia
Selma: Then there was GAully Mountain in WVA..when we first visited my husbands grandparents...thats when I developed this phobia.
daviss: Now I am not so sure I want to drive the new one that goes over Hoover Dam
Selma: I was a chaparone with my son's middle school trip to Colorado
keli1: oh I don't do fog anymore, my daddy did this too me Macinnaw bridge in Mich (boy did I misspell that)
AYWalton: there are some amazing places and structures, but sometimes I like to stay attached to the earth.
Nadasue: Well i think it's time for me to rest a bit. Have a great week, all. I might be here Tuesday if I get my report cards finished in time.
Selma: We went to the continental divide..I had to get on the floor of the van.. and only came up when we got to the top.. The kids were very kind
keli1: that is me, whew, okay let's change the topic...
daviss: lol lol
AYWalton: lol yes, I am getting stressed out too!!! I better sign off and get to work. Have blogs to update and work to do.
daviss: ok later aY
AYWalton: Selma I will send a list about USDTs.
keli1: back to genealogy....I have to present next week! lol
AYWalton: later daviss!
Selma: Ok.. I need to take a nap..after all this reliving my stress
daviss: later for me too folks bye
keli1: I agree Selma,
Selma: Bye...
jhonora: Goodbye y'all
keli1: Jocque, I am glad to hear about Buckingham research
