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Re: Freedmen's Association (Descendant's)

In a message dated 10/16/03 12:25:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, writes:

MESSAGE: (#2462) Re: Freedmen's Association (Descendant's)

AUTHOR: Jennifer Butler
DATE: Thursday, 16 October 2003, at 3:24 p.m.

Reply To: (#90) Freedmen's Association (Descendant's)
Author: Estelusti
Date: Sunday, 4 March 2001, at 12:03 p.m.

I am writing in response to this message from 2 years ago. I just recently
became a member of this forum. I am very interested in family history and
perservation. Is there going to be a freedman's descendant association. I
think this is a good idea. Alot of times the older generations don't know what
it means to past down family stories to their loved ones. It is very important
that we try and perserve the history of the freedman. I just recently this
year learned that indians owned slaves. I also think that the African slaves
of the Indians have a unique history in that our families where owned by the
whites and the indians. I thank God that my family was owned by the indians in
that we are able to obtain infomation about them from their census packets for
enrollment of the dawes commission. I have my ggggrandmothers application
packet as well as my gggrandmother and gggrandfather packet. It is a great
source of info. please let me known what has come of this. I am 22 years old
and I want the legacy of my ancestors to live on.

Greetings Cuzzie Jennifer

It appears you have been coming across a lot of my old post and it is encoraging to see you are taking an avid and proactive interest in the history of our family (direct & extended.) This post was done prior to the inception of Marilyn's organization and I have come to support her and the organization in their endeavors.

There are still some aspects that would help in this effort and they consist of utilizing specific areas of research pertinent to the individual tribes. In other words, by their nature each of the five nations of so called freedmen have issues specific to them. The concerns of the Chickasaw Freedmen have a different focus than those of the Seminole Nation and so on.

You need to check with Marilyn so you can get a better understanding of what her organization is focusing on. However, it is my opinion there is still room to develop organizatons that deal elclusively on the issues that affect the freedmen of a particular nation and work in conjunction with Marilyn's organization.

Example; I have yet to discover a genealogical group specific to the Chickasaw/Choctaw Freedmen. On my many trips to OK and the Oklahoma Historical Society, I have encountered too many instances where folks from our community have not been "properly" served when attempting to perform research there.

On my last trip there in August this year, I took time out of my "valuable" research time to help three individuals with their research. One was a brother who turns out had ancestors that were on the Cherokee Blood rolls and because I was carrying my "Native American CD" with me, I was able to locate ALL of his ancestors for him. The library had the same CD available, but not one person on staff gave this man sufficient information to conduct his search, that took us fifteen minutes (more or less) to do.

This speaks volumes to the need for us to establish our own research organizations and institutions so this type of treatment (in a state run & taxpayer supporter organization) does not deter others from looking for their ancestors.

I'm encouraged that you have taken the "responsibility" of pursuing such a noble effort, and it will be your generation that must continue this struggle. I hope that the people in the other nations will form organizations and conduct the research we so desparately need, and at the same time continue supporting The Freedmen Descendants of the Five Tribes as they have been developing a grass roots organization to bring attention to the struggle of the freedmen and their descendant's.

If you care to continue this dialogue feel free to contact me;

Terry J. Ligon

Chickasaw/Choctaw Freedmen Descendant


18 Dec 2002 :: 14 Nov 2008
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