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Re: Dunn Roll vs. Dawes Roll
In Response To: Re: Dunn Roll vs. Dawes Roll ()

Hi Norma!
Enjoyed reading your take on the "Roll of the Dice" play with Black Creek Freedmen Names being relegated down to nothing (between the appearance of the Dunn Roll Call and the final Dawes Thing) over the decades since the end of the American Civil War and even up to right now.
After reading this cool PDF Thesis Passage (by Zachery C. Cowsert) of the Indian Situation in Indian Territory during the American Civil War (see hyperlink) - --
I can clearly see the Creek Nation was at bitter ends with themselves, and fatefully divided up as Northern & Southern Creek, and Federal or Fighting for the Confederacy. They still couldn't come to terms with themselves (or shall we say with their separate selves) even as The Creeks were allowed to Present Themselves at the 1866 Treaty. Thus I hear they got cut a bad deal on all kinds of disappointments like, Land Allotment, Having to give up owning Negro Slaves, and having to yet again "release" Land ownership.
Though I haven't yet read a full report on what happened to us Black Creek Freedmen in 1979, I still would bet it was descendants of Confederate South Creek Sympathizers still aching to keep a Black Man (even if he's got mixed Creek Blood flowing thru his veins) "in his place". I also need to follow up on a rumor that not enough Creek Freedmen were even present at these disastrous 1979 Tribal Meetings to defend themselves! Heard you had to have an Indian Card stating that you was declared "by Blood" to attend. Haha! Now that there is a big swamp loophole, isn't it!?
My Ancestral Creek Freedmen Rentie Family Clan was flourishing up near Taft, Boynton, Rentiesville, Yahola, and Muskogee. I'm thinkin' that puts "us" on the Northern Section of Creek Territory.

I don't blame you for not wanting to possibly get your "feelings" hurt by going after a positive Creek Freedmen Roll Card Number Status. But after reading up on a cool guy like Ronald Graham, President of the Muscogee Creek Indian Freedman Board, the time is still ripe to try again!

Your Designer, Tuck John Porter a.k.a. #DesignerTJP

18 Dec 2002 :: 14 Nov 2008
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