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Re: 1866 Treaty
In Response To: Re: 1866 Treaty ()

Angry Chickasaw
You make my point perfectly. I did not create this situation but mearly observed that it was an emotional issue. You clearly responded in an emotional manner. I made no claims or statements as to the correctness or fairness of this action by the Cherokee Nation. Your repeated use of my name as if it were an epethet. Clearly shows your less than civil attempt at a reply. I mearly asked that the treaty be read for a persons self & not rely on the opinions of others as to what it does & does not say. I made no refference to Ms Vann or Mr Smith or any other source but rather to go to the primary source. You emediatly respond by defending a seccondary source. My point exactly I don't care if it's the nightly news, your brother-in-law or the man in the moon. It is still a secondary source telling you what the primary says. This seems to be the norm in America today. Is it any wonder you hear "oh they lied to me" when people will not do their research for them selves. Votes such as this will continue to happen because people relly on others for information that is readilly available. People don't even read the contracts they sign when it's right in front of their noses. As to the Jim Craw laws you go to tell me how wrong they were. My point exactly AGAIN & that is the way I refferenced them as being oppressive & wrong. by the way Ms Vann may well be a cousin to me as I am a Vann family dessendant.

Now I can only hope that cooler heads will prevail & an ammicable resolution found. There have been calls for many "punitive" actions to be taken against the Cherokee Nation. This issue goes way beyond the Freedmen issue & may well bring into question other issues that will affect all native nations. Such as the question of sovereignty. If the Federal Gov. is asked to step in ( I have read of calls to recind Federal reccognition). It calls into question if Native nations are soverign or "Subject" nations. I just hope the Cherokee Nation is ready to face some of the larger questions this may bring with it. I hope a negotiated ressolution can be found. But as to calling for such things as loss of federal reccognition where would that bennafit the freedmen? They would loose too in that worst case sennario. There is an old saying about being carefull about what you wish for. Because you just might get it.


18 Dec 2002 :: 14 Nov 2008
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