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Start: 12:02:37
End: 13:49:17
Chatters: 3rdthawkins, alt, AYWalton, daviss, Ingrid_Doweary, NetNoir, Selma, Seventies Soulchild, Spivey, vkn

3rdthawkins: hello daviss

daviss: hello 3rd

3rdthawkins: hey alt

daviss: hello alt!

alt: hello 3rdthawkins & daviss ,, you two doing okay today?

daviss: doing ok alt!

3rdthawkins: yep

alt: good

Spivey: Hi 3rdthawkins, alt and daviss!

alt: Hi Spivey..... whas up?

3rdthawkins: noon Spivey

daviss: I am working on setting up a new blog which will be about Arizona folks

3rdthawkins: hello Ingrid

Spivey: Hi Ingrid_Doweary!

daviss: hello Spivey and Ingrid_Doweary

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey 3rd, Alt, Spivey and Daviss

3rdthawkins: sounds good daviss

Spivey: Well, I'm up alt! LOL.

alt: Hello Ingrid_Doweary

daviss: I am hoping so 3rd

alt: Okay spivey.. that'll work LOL

3rdthawkins: or sounds interesting I should say

Ingrid_Doweary: Good Daviss, looking forware to seeing it.

Spivey: LOL alt.

Ingrid_Doweary: foreware=forward

daviss: thx Ingrid

Ingrid_Doweary: yw

alt: best Wishes for success on your 'new' blog daviss, will you continue with Mariah's Zepher?

daviss: oh yeah its just that the theme of Mariah's Zepher and Texas seemed to clash with the stuff I was putting up lol thanx alt

alt: okay, I see and this new one deals with AZ .. primarily.

daviss: Right and where these people lead me be it Az, Ok, or whatever lol kind of like my community search My last blog on Zepher took me to Okla

alt: very good daviss

daviss: I have also done some research on folks here so I decided, why not! lol

alt: there you go daviss, that's my philosophy... account for them all, if you can... in a sense they all be family LOL

daviss: hehehehe

alt: or contribute in some way too your 'family history'. too=to what do you other chatters think?

daviss: keeps me less frustrated with my family research and it also helps keep the wires in my brain from tangling up so soon as I age lol

Ingrid_Doweary: Being comprehensive is what's forcing me to be organized.

alt: hmmmmm, guess the others are either busy or don't have an opinion LOL ty Ingrid_Doweary

daviss: no problem alt lol I got yours

3rdthawkins: both alt :}

Ingrid_Doweary: yw alt :}

3rdthawkins: I just say go for it

alt: and you know I'm one to give an opinion daviss LOL LOL LOL

daviss: which I highly value alt :}

alt: why ty daviss ;)

daviss: now!! what issue do we have today regarding genealogy research

3rdthawkins: seeing if Ingrid has anything for me today :} :}

alt: I'm still following the 'protection' thread and the genealogy thingee #3 on the Gen/Hist forum.

daviss: and I can say the same for you 3rd lol did you find out the info that I seek

alt: I just responded to the 'my favorite photo' contest.

3rdthawkins: lol no trying to catch my aunt on FB

daviss: looks like the majority of the posters agree on the protection thread

alt: yep, why 'hoard' your research...

Ingrid_Doweary: Well I haven't left the house yet 3rd, but I'm searching the DC Public Library online.

3rdthawkins: ok

daviss: of course in order to publish it has to really be compelling and hit numerous lives as in Slaves In The Family by Edward Ball

alt: 3rdthawkins, you rquestionyesterday got me to looking at the google maps and the areas and home addresses where I lived at one time or another.

NetNoir: hello

3rdthawkins: hello NetNoir

daviss: howdy howdy NetNoir!

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey NetNoir

alt: hello NetNoir

NetNoir: how is everyone doing?

Spivey: Hi NetNoir!

alt: fine here and you

3rdthawkins: hello Selma doing good NetNoir

alt: Hello Selma

NetNoir: hi 3rd, daviss, alt, ingrid and spivey

Ingrid_Doweary: Good, thanks for asking. Hey Selma.

Spivey: Hi Selma!

NetNoir: pretty good

daviss: for me ok NetNoir, what about you?

NetNoir: :)

Selma: Good Friday afternoon everyone

daviss: heyyy there Selma

Selma: Afternoon this your first time here?

NetNoir: yes it is

alt: refresh my memory NetNoir, you're located where and researching what area and surnames?

Selma: Well welcome

NetNoir: just lookign around

alt: Oops.thought you had been here before NetNoir .... Welcome

NetNoir: well I'm Lenley Woodard, I actually run

daviss: welcome NetNoir!

NetNoir: and I've basically been at work reviving the site, and working on another diaspora site

daviss: sounds good NetNoir

NetNoir: so I've been making an effort to visit as many cultural sites as i can

alt: i thought NetNoir sounded familiar

NetNoir: yeah ... probably the first web-based AA news site melanet was first but seemed to be more commerce related

Spivey: I think there was another one, NetNoir. I can't remember the name offhand.


daviss: I thought it sounded familar also. Good luck on your revising it

NetNoir: thanks

Selma: Must be keeping you busy

NetNoir: is actually much further along yes!! lol pretty soon umoja will have live, real data :)

Spivey: Congratulations on your enterprises NetNoir and I wish you the best.

alt: is there a 'specialty' with the site.. history, news, sports, entertainment, or are you covering all bases?

NetNoir: thanks

Selma: So are you here just see what we do? or what we talk about?

NetNoir: um basically Umoja will be a knowledge engine to see what you do

daviss: AfriGeneas is a site devoted to African American genealogy, to researching African Ancestry in the Americas in particular and to genealogical research and resources in general Have you visited before

NetNoir: nice

Ingrid_Doweary: I remember hearing of melanet.

NetNoir: yes I have

daviss: awesome!

alt: and we 'chat' about all of the above NetNoir

NetNoir: i was tryign to figure out what resources to list with umoja

Selma: How to do research, where to look, helping folks to understand what they find..

Ingrid_Doweary: Unity knowledge engine, interesting concept, NetNoir.

NetNoir: yes -- bios, buinesses, locations, question and answer receipes

daviss: Have you dabbled in your family history at all NetNoir?

NetNoir: yes actually my dad has used this site before

daviss: good for your dad! I hope it was fruitful

NetNoir: yes he enjoys it quite a bit

Seventies Soulchild: Hello all

alt: and that he keeps 'using' the site... it is a living, breathing, viable, dynamic ever changing site NetNoir

NetNoir: hello

3rdthawkins: hello seventies

Selma: Afternoon seventies

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey Seventies

Spivey: Hi Seventies Soulchild!

NetNoir: yes, it sounds like it!

daviss: hello seventies soulchild!

alt: Hello Seventies Soulchild

AYWalton: Good afternoon, all.

daviss: hello AYWalton!

Selma: Afternoon AY

alt: hello AYWalton

NetNoir: afternoon AYWalton

AYWalton: howdy 3rd, alt, daviss, Ingrid.

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey AYWalton

Spivey: Hi AYWalton!

AYWalton: hello NetNoir, Ms. Selma, SoulChile, Spivey. I hope everyone is doing well.

Spivey: Fine AYWalton and you?

alt: NetNoir, the chatters here today cover the nation from coast to coast.... did you say where you were located?

NetNoir: Boston

daviss: great AYWalton!

NetNoir: MA

alt: ah so, okay thanks

AYWalton: ahh I used to live in Boston for many years, NetNoir.

daviss: shoot lol I was hoping you said Texas lol lol

AYWalton: Are you a genealogist NetNoir?

3rdthawkins: hello ay

AYWalton: wassup, 3rd?

NetNoir: lol no not at all ayw

3rdthawkins: didn't hear you come in, have to turn up my vol.

Seventies Soulchild: roomful today. I see daviss has been busy on the boards.

NetNoir: just examining and collecting info about the diaspora online

Selma: can tell the states folks are researching, by their responses..

NetNoir: ah

AYWalton: I see, well you are among a bunch of family history researchers, here.

Seventies Soulchild: Oh NetNoir.. hello!

AYWalton: I live in MD now, but research Ark/Oklahoma/Tenn and Mississippi.

Selma: Needless to say Texas is one of daviss areas of research

daviss: you Rock too Seventies :}

Seventies Soulchild: :}

daviss: lol @ Selma

alt: and we cover all areas of AA life in the history of the US in particular

3rdthawkins: Me in Missouri but main research is in Texas and South Carolina, also Arkansas

AYWalton: and for a unique aspect of the diaspora, you are welcome to visit my website on the Freedmen of Indian Territory (now Oklahoma). These were the folks who were slaves in the Five Tribes. , a forgotten part of the diaspora---but we are there, nevertheless.

alt: most of us have websites and/or blogs... some of which you may be familiar with NetNoir

AYWalton: I do remember that name from somewhere, I think, NetNoir. Are you the founder of

NetNoir: proud new owner :)

AYWalton: is that right? Well congratulations.

NetNoir: thx cool ayw

AYWalton: I seem to remember the name from way back in the day, but have not seen or heard of it a very long time.

Selma: I was gonna say AY...Prodigy days?

NetNoir: i hope to add information like yours to (diaspora knowledge engine)

AYWalton: almost, Selma----I was thinking way back a long time ago.

NetNoir: ph call brb

AYWalton: I wonder whatever happened to Idette Vaughn. She used to run, the BlackNet.

Selma: You and can you remember all those names.. LOL

AYWalton: VKN knew them all. and does anyone ever hear from Electra Price? I think she was/is in California.

alt: I hear from Electra occasionly AYWalton, yes, she is still in the Bay area.

AYWalton: is that right? That's good to know. Is she still on the genealogy scene? wb Ingrid. Did you get bumped?

Spivey: Welcome back Ingrid_Doweary.

alt: she had and uncle that lived here in Springfield, Oh who recently passed away.

Ingrid_Doweary: Sorry was multitasking and got kicked off. Thanks Spivey and AY.

AYWalton: I know how that goes, Ingrid.

Seventies Soulchild: Hello Ingrid

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey Seventies.

NetNoir: your site is awesome AYW

AYWalton: Thank you NetNoir.

daviss: Seventies have you rec'd the video yet from your talk

AYWalton: I have other links that I can share with you as well.

NetNoir: that would be great

Seventies Soulchild: No.. thank you for reminding me to call. That is on my to-do list today.

AYWalton: I have a site on Arkansas black history, a weekly podcast, and a site for beginning genealogists.

NetNoir: awesome

Ingrid_Doweary: Still researching the muster sheets of your ancestor and I'll go to the monument this afternoon or tomorrow afternoon at the latest to photo graph the wall of honor.

alt: I forgot to ask.. at the AAHGS did a former chatter show up and help to volunteer?

daviss: thats the reason why I Rock seventies lol

Ingrid_Doweary: That's for you Seventies.

Seventies Soulchild: :} yea your'e a mess daviss... lol

Selma: Not that I am aware of alt

daviss: lol lol

Seventies Soulchild: Thanks a bunch Ingrid!

alt: okay Selma. it was mentioned that he would be there.

Spivey: Ingrid_Doweary you are near the wall of honor? Which war?

daviss: alt is a mess lol ask Selma

Seventies Soulchild: :} daviss now... lol

AYWalton: is there an email address to reach you, NetNoir? I will send you links to the other sites.

Seventies Soulchild: Do you find the research interesting so far Ingrid_Doweary?

AYWalton: And of course you cannot overlook the massive site of AfriGeneas.

Ingrid_Doweary: African American Civil War Monument and Wall of Honor in Washington, DC Shaw Neighborhood-at the intersections of 10th and U Streets, and Vermont Avenue, NW.

Seventies Soulchild: Christine has a good site with

Ingrid_Doweary: Yes, I would like to compare the muster sheets with the Compendium publicaton.

Seventies Soulchild: their site is I believe

Spivey: Ingrid_Doweary, is it possible for you to look up a name for me while you're there?

Ingrid_Doweary: This is it

alt: just came from you site Netnoir... News, Politics & Opinion from an AA prespective, right?

Seventies Soulchild: Thank you Ingrid! lol

NetNoir: ayw yes yes alt

Ingrid_Doweary: Sure Spivey which name with which regiment/state? YW Seventies

NetNoir: alt I'm working more on

AYWalton: I like that name kotoko. Do you have ties to Ghana, NetNoir?

alt: okay NetNoir

NetNoir: yes

Spivey: KELSEY [Louis/Lewis] 54th Massachusetts Infantry Volunteers Ingrid_Doweary.

NetNoir: yes I want to include as many research sites

Seventies Soulchild: NetNoir, please do me a favor. If you are going to have a news feed please only serious news RELEVANT to black american & the disapora. Kind of like what v.1 offered in the late 90's early 2000's

NetNoir: @seventies here's the problem

Ingrid_Doweary: Oh okay, Spivey. I'll check it out and photograph it.

NetNoir: most sites split between serious news and "high-traffic" news

Spivey: Oh, thank you so much, Ingrid_Doweary. Any and all information you can find I would appreciate.

Ingrid_Doweary: Solid.

Seventies Soulchild: Ah... well check out ...

NetNoir: even npr will do celebrity news / info etc...

Seventies Soulchild: They never have a shortage of news national and local

alt: Ingrid_Doweary .. the plaque # for Louis Kelsey is E-154 if that will be of help.

NetNoir: my goal is to seperate the channels

Seventies Soulchild: I'm not saying don't have the high traffic news, just saying have some meat in the meal.

NetNoir: so that you can easily eat meat only ;)

Ingrid_Doweary: That will help also, ALt. Thanks. Thanks for the line Seventies, I'll check it out.

Spivey: Geez, alt, how did you come up with that?

Seventies Soulchild: thank you. that's all I ask.

NetNoir: is now a parking iste yes about ghana

alt: If I tell ya, I'llhave to shoot ya Spivey LOL LOL lOL

NetNoir: :)

AYWalton: I suspect that NetNoir has good plans, and has to respond to their own calling in their own way. That is all any of us can do--do it our way. (hmm.......wasn't that a song?)

Spivey: Now, now, alt. This after you wrote about 'sharing'.

daviss: is that FranK AYWalton lol

Ingrid_Doweary: The information is listed with records emphasizing the soldier's name included with the monument.

alt: okay spivey try this

Ingrid_Doweary: lol lol lol lol

NetNoir: thx ayw -- yes you have to have a mix of content

Seventies Soulchild: hmmm let me check NetNoir

alt: put in his name and it will give you the Plaque #

NetNoir: @seventies will be similar to africana

AYWalton: is that the name for sites like that, NetNoir?

NetNoir: except that eventually we'll allow users to write articles

Spivey: Thanks alt. That goes to show how lost we sometimes get and don't see the forest for the trees. I know about the Sailors and Soldiers System and never thought to check there.

AYWalton: I call those template sites....lots of links, kind of a generic kind of look with not much content. Looks like the blogtalkradio site is now for sale.

NetNoir: yes -- it's a domain parking site

AYWalton: somebody just holding it to someone who wants to buy, it?

Seventies Soulchild: check it out NetNoir

NetNoir: but you are right -- it's an ad template site

Ingrid_Doweary: Spivey, hopefully this will be of value to you also. Let me know if you're unable to access it.

NetNoir: yes

Seventies Soulchild: Sorry about that, I guess he got rid of the .net site.

NetNoir: no worries <-- kind of a sample page but right now we are still testing the application

AYWalton: I hope your site goes well, and by all means do include a genealogy component, NetNoir. That would be great for the genealogy community.

Spivey: Thanks, Ingrid_Doweary.

Seventies Soulchild: Ok I've given my plug for the day! lol

Ingrid_Doweary: YW, Spivey Now you can also cross reference.

Spivey: Yes.

NetNoir: thx ayw, I'll link most of the sites and then maybe do a how-to

Ingrid_Doweary: Good for you Seventies Sounds good NetNoir.

NetNoir: is basically meant to provide a central source for info -- to start from so it will have text, and then aggregate from sources to get people started.

AYWalton: So Umoja is starting from the ground up and building, is that correct?

NetNoir: yup just finished the software

AYWalton: was there an Umoja site in the past? The name is familiar, but I am not sure if I am thinking of something else.

NetNoir: and we will use freebase (which uses wikipedia) to populate a lot of info well lots of people use "umoja"

alt: text sites appear hard to use NetNoir, unless they have a search feature for 'keyword' useage to get to speicific subject matter.

NetNoir: we'll have a decent category system and also keyword search

daviss: Selma, any word from your friend on that Newspaper in Va I asked you about.

alt: good NetNoir

Selma: Oops I forgot vicky..sorry...what was it The Vine?

daviss: Yes Selma I only got one small hit but nothing to write home about

Selma: You googled it?

daviss: yes along with news articles I may be missing something in how I am searching though

Selma: News article from the newspaper? circa what?

alt: Selma, I found in 'The Genealogist" .. Picton Press and article that tells of the LaForce family in 1728 in Henrico/Goochland County, VA, it names their slaves as of 1746 and MY Betty/Bess and her daughter Hanna(h) are included ... WHOOPIE!!!!!!

daviss: 1920-37 is what I was using

Selma: Wow alt...

AYWalton: wow, alt, now that is a find!!!!

alt: wanna a copy?

AYWalton: when did you find that?

daviss: Just now alt!!! Thats awesome

Selma: Yes, I would alt..

Seventies Soulchild: cool alt!

daviss: Congrats to you my friend!!!!!

alt: I've had the books for a couple of years and just now reading them LOL

Ingrid_Doweary: Ya Alt!

Selma: The Goochland Chauncery Records are now available..let me find the link

Seventies Soulchild: yay!

alt: LaFroce was named one of the 1st JP's when Goochalnd was formed from Henrico in 1728.

NetNoir: do you all meet up every day?

AYWalton: Ingrid did you see that the PG County AAHGS is having a genealogy event on Saturday in the Brentwood area?

daviss: yes we do NetNoir

AYWalton: Nathania Branch Miles is speaking. we are here every week day, and on Saturday evenings.

daviss: also we have a Tuesday and Sat night chat and a sun morning chat

AYWalton: Also on Sunday for brunch, and Tuesday evenings we have an evening session as well.

Selma: For goochland records from 1731 to 1912

alt: okay Selma hit me with a link LOL lOL

Seventies Soulchild: Awesome Selma! Looking for Pastey & Charles within that timeframe

Selma: Pastey and Chalrs who?

AYWalton: I had better go and work on my podcast. It should be up in an hour or so.

daviss: later AYWalton


AYWalton: FYI Netnoir, my podcast can be found at

Spivey: Bye AYWalton.

AYWalton: take care everyone and have great day.

Ingrid_Doweary: Yes AY I think I saw that announcement. Unfortunately I'll be at work tomorrow.

Selma: Its at the LVA virginia memory site.. Don't think that link worked.

NetNoir: awesome i got it

alt: bad likn, but it is with the LVA Virginia Memory collection, right? I'll find it


Seventies Soulchild: ok got it now.

alt: ah so Selma, thanks!!!!!!

daviss: Spivey, is Kelsey (Louis) your ggrand?

NetNoir: ok ya'll I'm going to call it a day

Spivey: No, daviss. He is I think the great uncle of my grandmother Wardie Kelsey ADAMS.

alt: found 2 records right off the bat Selma

daviss: please come back Netnoir

NetNoir: I'll try to be back next week sometime

Selma: YOur kidding alt

Seventies Soulchild: Selma Patsey & Charles Rounds. . . looking for them. Charles was sold south and ended up in Adams Co.

3rdthawkins: hey vkn, welcome, good to see you

NetNoir: hey vkn

Selma: We will be here NetNoir

NetNoir: bye

Seventies Soulchild: Adams Co., Mississippi

daviss: we enjoyed your company

vkn: Good afternoon to each and all

daviss: hello vkn

Seventies Soulchild: goodafternoon vkn

Selma: You can check the the surname Seventies

vkn: Heyyyyy NetNoir long time

daviss: too late vkn

Spivey: Hi vkn!

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey Vkn

daviss: ahhhh Spivey

Seventies Soulchild: ok not sure of the original surnames. Was told, not verified yet, that Patsey was Charlie's mother

alt: Rene LaForce is the plaintiff against a John Lancaster & a William Harden

Spivey: I don't have the exact relationship offhand daviss, but he is in my grand mother's line of KELSEYs.

vkn: 3rd alt daviss Ingrid Selma Seventiea Spivey

alt: hello ms vkn

Selma: Not all the VA counties are complete yet..with the addition of Goochland and Henrico counties they now have over 5 million images

daviss: ok thx Spivey

alt: in Goochland Co., Selma

Spivey: Are you interested in that branch daviss?

Selma: Can you see the image alt?

daviss: no just curious Spivey.. You know me lol

Seventies Soulchild: I have a question, would bills of sale & tax records be in the VA chancery court?

Spivey: LOL daviss. I have a question. One of the gentleman assisting me sends e-mails from Do you know what college/university that is?

vkn: ? What is scribed as a new thing in social networks

alt: Oh, wait a minute has a 'view details'

daviss: you mean NAU

Selma: Among the 119,000 images scanned from the Goochland collection are ones related to disputes over land, wills, divorces, debts, and business issues. The names of slaves suing for their freedom

vkn: I see I am on it but not sure how that happened or how to get out of it

Selma: of the descendants of the Huguenot settlers of Manakin-Towne, of planters, millers, coal miners, church leaders, and ordinary citizens appear in the records. Carefully-drawn plats sometimes illustrate cases involving disputed property lines and mining rights.

daviss: Is that an Ariz Univ

vkn: oops not meant to interrupt

Spivey: No, daviss, it's

Selma: Norfolk State University

daviss: hmmm not sure Spivey

Selma: ?

daviss: oh that may be it

Spivey: I don't know Selma. And, I haven't asked him. Slackness on my part.

alt: that's me Selma the Huguenots, etc.

Spivey: Norfolk is where, Selma?

Selma: Norfolk VA I just posted that so you could see the variety of info seventies..not sure if bills of sales would be included

Spivey: Thanks Selma.

daviss: vkn dont you have to scribe to Charity's site

Selma: Is this person a professor there Spivey

vkn: Not that I know of daviss Not that I know of daviss have not been there lately

Spivey: I'll have to ask him, Selma. He corresponds little, probably because it's his work address.

Seventies Soulchild: Thanks Selma for the info.. multi tasking.

daviss: any one here know what that means as in "scribed"

Spivey: Is there a list of professors anywhere Selma?

Selma: On their website Spivey

alt: gotta run Bennie McRae jus pulled up in front of the house.

Seventies Soulchild: tell him hello! bye alt

daviss: later alt

Selma: Tell BErnie we are doing a USCT seminar this year alt

alt: okay y'all take care

Spivey: Thanks Selma.

alt: gotcha Selma

Ingrid_Doweary: Bye alt

Selma: I have got to run folks....have a great day

daviss: two finger bye

Spivey: Don't say it daviss.

daviss: lol

Spivey: lol


daviss: let me peep vkn

vkn: It is annoying and somehow facebook connected

daviss: hmmm dunno vkn its new to me

Spivey: It's annoying vkn?

daviss: you can delet it from your FB cant you

vkn: yes so many peeps scribing spivey

Spivey: LOL vkn. That should be good.

Seventies Soulchild: I like the new challenge BTW. Going to submit something. Wish I could submit a photo along with the story.

daviss: I thought you could seventies

vkn: you can seventies do pic as long as 200 or less Spivey it is unwanted by moi

Seventies Soulchild: Ah okay.. wasn't sure because of the format.. let me go through my photos then.. :)

Spivey: Then I'll leave it alone vkn.

daviss: does it show up on FB vkn on your page

vkn: Not on FB daviss Not sure from where it comes

daviss: I see

vkn: Not able to find root as yet have only taken a superficial look will explore detail later

daviss: good luck and hope you find out sooner than later

vkn: Thought some in this room would know

Ingrid_Doweary: It's new to me also, Vkn.

daviss: new to me

Spivey: I don't blog, scribe, publish or any of that vkn. I'm not familiar with sites like this.

vkn: I thought y'all would be a short cut lol lol lol

Spivey: Nope. So pull out the old can of elbow grease vkn.

daviss: HA!! I can barely do what I do lol lol

vkn: lol

daviss: which reminds me, I gotta go do something

Ingrid_Doweary: lol

daviss: you all have a great day

Ingrid_Doweary: Cya Daviss

daviss: byeeeee

Spivey: Bye daviss. Have a good one.

Ingrid_Doweary: U 2

Spivey: I'm going to check out this publishing site, BookSmart. Have a good day everyone.

vkn: See y'all saturday

Ingrid_Doweary: Cya Vkn Spivey gone too, eh? Multitasking everyone?

Seventies Soulchild: yes ok I've got to run. gotta get these kids into college! :} have a good day all!

Ingrid_Doweary: I like what Seventies said. Catch up with you, later, 3rd. Happy Hunting. Bye.

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