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Start: 11:11:05
End: 14:23:07
Chatters: alt, AYWalton, David, deannie, Ingrid_Doweary, jhonora, ryan, Selma, seventies soulchild, Spivey, trisha

AYWalton: Hey there!!!! how's it going, Ingri_Doweary? you must be me! LOL (as I get up to do something in the kitchen.) :)

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey AY. Yes I am multitasking. How are you, still tired? I felt stiff this morning :}

AYWalton: a bit tired, but making myself try to be productive. I was exhausted last night. reading through Tracye's book this morning. I know must of what she is saying, I just need to be more disciplined and make my diet better. LOL

Ingrid_Doweary: I can understand that. I need some pointers for being disciplined when travelling

AYWalton: yes, that would be a challenge.

Ingrid_Doweary: My work schedules tend to defy eating schedules.

AYWalton: I hear you. I do want to change my diet considerably, so this might be good inspiration, plus she has good recipes, as well.

Ingrid_Doweary: I also want to scrim through the Dr. Collier Thomas book I bought for my cousin.

AYWalton: That looks like a good read. Did you get it yesterday?

Ingrid_Doweary: Yes those recipies are what I've looking for. I did purchase the other book yesterday and got it autographed.

AYWalton: they look great!!! she should really do a cookbook! I might shoot her an email and suggest it. oh how did you make out getting home yesterday? Hope you did not have to wait too long for a train.

Ingrid_Doweary: I agree. Wonderful. I'll check them out. Only had to wait about 7 mins. Took me where I needed to get home.

AYWalton: oh that's good, then. I had hoped you did not have to wait too long!

Ingrid_Doweary: Thank you again for getting to the station. I am familiar with green line train system. Only 2 stops from my home station.

AYWalton: hey hey hey, it's honoray!!! howdy jhonora!!!

jhonora: Morning AYWalton, Ingrid_Doweary

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey jhonora.

AYWalton: how are you doing this morning?

jhonora: Doing fine, listening to Louis Prima, jazz's second greatest Louie.

Ingrid_Doweary: Listen to you, Jhnonora! :D

AYWalton: alright now!!! sounds like you are having a mellow morning, indeed, jhonora!

Ingrid_Doweary: When I first heard a recording of Prima, I thought it was Dean Dino Martin.

jhonora: They do sound a lot alike. Dean was a big fan of Harry Mills.

Ingrid_Doweary: Prima had a smoothe voice didn't he?

jhonora: Yeah, but he scatted in Italian.

AYWalton: now that should have been an interesting sound.

Ingrid_Doweary: I indeed he did, that's how I learned the difference.

AYWalton: looking up on youtube right now for some footage. ahhh found one!

Ingrid_Doweary: Yes, AY, sounds like Jhonora is having an inspiring morning. :}

jhonora: He and Sharkie Bonano are considered the two biggest Armstrong-ists.

Ingrid_Doweary: Is that right? Awesome.

AYWalton: greetings, deannie!

jhonora: Early N.O. Jazz was all blacks and Sicilians, with exception of a few Irish and 'Yellow' Nunez from the Canary Islands.

AYWalton: howdy alt!

jhonora: Morning, deannie!

deannie: Morning everyone

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey Deannie.

jhonora: Hey alt!

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey Alt.

alt: hello AYWalton jhonora deannie Ingrid_Doweary

AYWalton: he does have an interesting sound, jhonora. listening to Basin Street Blues.

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey Jhonora, Director Martin Scorsese used Louie Prima's voice in a number of his film soundtracks-Maddog and Glory, Casino, Goodfellows, etc.

jhonora: Right, Ingrid, and also the song from Disney's JungleBook.

AYWalton: how interesting, I did not realize that.

Ingrid_Doweary: Yes Jhonora! I just saw that information. How are you, Deanne and Alt?

AYWalton: ahhh deannie slipped in here. I did not see you there! howdy deannie!! How was the Chicago Conference? AAGHSC

alt: deannie, is the Chicgao group going to Indianapolis for their workshop this coming weekend?

AYWalton: how are things with you, alt?

deannie: I was unable to go on Friday...but Saturday was great...I seat in on Julisue Crouch session on "Slave Census

AYWalton: ahhh ok, glad to hear it was a good event.

Ingrid_Doweary: Ohhh sounds like a good session.

deannie: I would like to is our monthly meeting so I will see who's going

AYWalton: will they discuss the conference? I would think they would be tired out. I know how draining events like that can be.

deannie: It was about 30 members of the St Louis AAGHS also come..... Yes

AYWalton: you had a group from St. Louis who came? wow, that's amazing.

deannie: It is but everyone wasn't to let other now what the learned and also want they miss:}

AYWalton: say that again?

deannie: I have a large family in St Louis so you know I was networing.......

AYWalton: how how many folks attended would you say? I bet you were. welcome back, alt.

Ingrid_Doweary: wb Alt.

alt: ty AYWalton , 'puter acting 'colored' this morning LOL

AYWalton: lol

Ingrid_Doweary: lol How does it do that, Alt? wb Deannie.

AYWalton: Ooops, look like lots of folks need seat belts this morning.

deannie: Iwas knot off of the room

Ingrid_Doweary: U 2?

deannie: repeat I was knotted out of the room 8)

alt: freezing up and carrying on Ingrid_Doweary, think I have/da too many windows open,

deannie: I know I do

Ingrid_Doweary: I see

alt: closed several windows & the email .. things now seem to be working right

Ingrid_Doweary: Jhonora, you know it's your fault that I'm listening to Louie Prima now. :}

AYWalton: he has several of us doing the same thing.

alt: so you had a 'good' time at AAHGS AYWalton?

jhonora: lol lol Ingrid

AYWalton: I had a good time, but did not get to lots of sessions. I sat in on Selma's which was very good. I heard some of ProfessorDru's and I had my own presentation as well.

alt: okay, that was the 'indexing project' cradle to grave?

AYWalton: but seeing folks was the best part, anyway. yes, that was Selma's topic. she is probably on the way back home, now.

alt: I think so too.. my thing is the networking.

AYWalton: that is actually what I like the most!

alt: maybe pick out 1 or 2 sessions I want to hear, but the evening networking is my thing.

AYWalton: AAHGS conference attendance was down though, but it was lots of fun to still see everybody. khathu joined us yesterday. I have photos of the past 2 days on my blog:

Ingrid_Doweary: Yes seeing old friends, making new friends and meeting more AfriGeneas family members as well was so much fun. You go, AY! You are definitely ahead of the pack.

alt: I saw some of your photos yesterday AYWalton, have you added more?

AYWalton: I had some up yesterday and put more up last night. from yesterday's events.

alt: did Khathu make it to the conference?

AYWalton: I was commuting, though, so I did not stay at the hotel. yes, he did.

Ingrid_Doweary: Yes he was right there with us.

AYWalton: he is on the blog. enjoyed his company.

alt: okay AYWalton, will check them out

Ingrid_Doweary: So did I.

alt: wonderful!!!!!

AYWalton: Ingrid, I am hoping to get down to the Civil War museum one of these days for their Descendants events.

alt: jhonora, being following your work on L'Hermitage... you're working your 'behind' off... great work!!!!!

jhonora: Thanks, alt. I really would like to find living dec.

deannie: I still have not received any of the picture taken at the summit of the Afrigeneas group by the piano ..can someone me on to thanks

alt: If they are there, you'll find them in Ft. Wayne deannie?

deannie: Yes

Ingrid_Doweary: I hope you can also, AY. The next one will probably be on Nov. 6th. Check the website for the new temporary address.

AYWalton: remind me, I might have one somewhere on my camera, deannie. I shall do that, Ingrid.

deannie: Ok I will thanks

alt: okay, they are up on the 'Net several places, but I'll get then to you deannie

deannie: Ok

alt: I did send you the pic's I took of you and the Chicago group, right deannie?

deannie: Yes

alt: okay

deannie: But I want to show off my AfriGeneas my Chicago group:}

AYWalton: howdy Spivey!

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey Spivey!

Spivey: Hi everybody!

deannie: Mornin Spivey

alt: going thru some 'old' papers now... just found a copy of my grt-grt=grandmother's will dated 1881.

jhonora: alt, did you hear that Pvt. Alan Bobson of Ohio's 27th Reg. USCT was recently given tombstone in Lynchburg, Va.

alt: Hello Spivey

Ingrid_Doweary: Awesome, Alt.

alt: No jhonora...

jhonora: It's an AP story, along with another about Dr. James McCune Smith getting a tombstone.

alt: what was the occasion jhonora, I worked with a Bobson at Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio her family was from Sabina, Ohio about 40 miles from here.. an old AA settlement in the 1820's forward... they were part of the Gist slave group.

jhonora: He died in the field hospital and was buried in the "Negro Row" of cemetery with no marker. The SUV honored him.

alt: wonderful jhonora

Ingrid_Doweary: I see a Chicago Defender Online article about that Jhonora. Check it out folks.

alt: so alan Bobson may have been a children of one of the Gist group. thanks Ingrid_Doweary

Ingrid_Doweary: YW.

AYWalton: oops, we lost jhonora!

alt: did Cahrles Howard give an overview of his plans for AAHGS AYWalton? Charles

AYWalton: he did in the state of the society meeting on Thursday evening. I missed it though as I did not get there till Friday morning. AAHGS also got a financial shot in the arm.

alt: do you know if is there a copy available for reading?

AYWalton: one of the founders of the Salt Lake City chapter died and left 10% of her estate worth to AAHGS---something like $83,000 gift! which is great! I have no idea, alt.

alt: wow!!!!!!

AYWalton: I can aska about it. yes that was nice. I met her in 2006 in Salt Lake City.

Ingrid_Doweary: Think I should check with Charles for the report you are inquiring about, Alt?

alt: I would hope he might put his message up on the AAHGS website

AYWalton: that might be a good idea.

Ingrid_Doweary: I'll definitely look into it, Alt.

AYWalton: Charles was wonderfully supportive of AfriGeneas and our efforts. he is very supportive of collaborative efforts. I wonder if we can invite him to give an online presentation for us.

Ingrid_Doweary: He truly was very supportive.

AYWalton: I will run that idea by VKN.

alt: most gen society Presidents do put up a message following their conferences... perhaps on their website, or their next newsletter to the memberrship.

Ingrid_Doweary: Sounds like a great idea, AY. He said he would probably sneak in a suprise us one time.

AYWalton: that would be great! We should invite him for a presentation and to share his vision for AAHGS with the group.

Ingrid_Doweary: Indeed!

alt: glad to hear of him being spoken of in 'high regards'

AYWalton: he is also making it a point to personally visit every chapter of AAHGS while he is president.

alt: he has Ohio roots and I've seen him at several OGS conferences thru the years.

AYWalton: he has visited some of the local chapters already, but intends to personally meet every president and attend at least one meeting of every chapter.

Ingrid_Doweary: Now that is such a noble concept. I like it.

AYWalton: he also has joined some of the chapters himself as they correspond to his research interest.

Ingrid_Doweary: Okay. I see a viable connection with that rapport.

alt: I thought he was to go into one of the OGS lineage societies this past year (2010).

AYWalton: it is a good strategy as a new president. is that right? possibly so.

Ingrid_Doweary: OGS?

alt: Ohio Genealogical Society Ingrid_Doweary

Ingrid_Doweary: okay-thanks.

AYWalton: deannie about how many folks attended the Chicago conference? a rough estimate. howdy Ms. Selma!!! there she is!!!!!

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey hey Selma!

AYWalton: you home already Selma?

alt: well there she is.. hello Selma

Selma: Good Sunday Morning everyone...yep I am back at HOME

AYWalton: how was the banquet last night?

deannie: over 100...Chicago, Evanston, St Louis

Ingrid_Doweary: Good for you.

AYWalton: that's great, deannie!!!

Ingrid_Doweary: Good number Deannie

Selma: It was very nice...Anthony Cohen was the speaker...did presentation on the Underground Railroad... in Maryland

AYWalton: what time did you leave this morning, Selma?

alt: yes it was a 'goodly' number deannie

AYWalton: sounds like he was a good speaker, Selma.

Selma: At around 9...yep...I was moving... LOL...traffic was good Yes...he was

AYWalton: that's great!

deannie: yes it was

Spivey: Hi Selma!

alt: is he the guy who 'walked' the UGRR several years ago Selma

Selma: He is the young man (not so young now about 48 or so)..who did the walk

AYWalton: was that the confederate walk, Selma? or is that somebody else?

Ingrid_Doweary: Oh I heard about his project.

alt: from somewhere in KY to Canada,,,

Selma: No Angela..the UGRR in Montogmery County MD... He now has a non profit...Menare Farm..let me see if I can google

Ingrid_Doweary: That's not the one. But, Selma the UGRR in Montg. COunty, MD? Interesting.

AYWalton: I see. Very interesting.


alt: Menare was a great site.. at one time they had Siebert's list of UGRR conductors nationwide on their site.

Selma: I don't know about the confederate walk Anglea

AYWalton: there was some guy who was wearing a confederat uniform making some kind of walk somewhere, a few years ago. I can't recall his name---a black man. Said he was honoring his confederate ancestors.

Selma: Don't think it was the same guy AY

alt: diffeernt person AYWalton

AYWalton: now that I am looking at Cohen's site, you are right it is not the same guy.

Ingrid_Doweary: Interesting website, Selma. Thank you for the link.

Selma: I remember when he did the first walk I was visiting some friends in Columbia MD..and there was an article in the newspaper I didn't realize he had the Menara farm site until last night

Ingrid_Doweary: Yes, I think the person I was thinking of is in Prince Georges County, MD.

AYWalton: here is something about it, I think:

alt: yeah, that's the guy AYWalton .. Edgerton

AYWalton: I could not remember his name.

Selma: Where is was great to finally meet him

AYWalton: yes he was lots of fun. he is a very serious researcher.

Selma: He is about 8 feet tall...or maybe I am just shorter then I think

alt: BTW AYWalton, Bennie said to tell you hello, he justgot back from Bracketville, TX and a Seminole Indian Scout celebration.

AYWalton: oh he DID go? oh wow!!!! I will have to email him!

Ingrid_Doweary: lol Yes Selma both of those. Khathu does have some height on him.

AYWalton: thanks tell him I send greetings back! lol

alt: okay AYWalton

AYWalton: he is a tall man, for sure, Selma. all of us were shorties though at the table, too.

Ingrid_Doweary: Oooh, nice Alt. Glad to hear of it.

AYWalton: I have a photo on the blog, Selma.

Selma: I hope I am not STANDING next to him

AYWalton: No he was standing next to Ingrid.

Selma: Nice photos

AYWalton: and EVPace was seated in front of him.

Selma: I see MIzz PACE is front and center... LOL

Ingrid_Doweary: Yep.

alt: E. Veronica ?

Selma: Yes...

AYWalton: yes, that is the one and the same, alt.

alt: in the ball cap LOL

AYWalton: Selma your presentation was very good!

Selma: She didn't come back for the banquet either

AYWalton: was she commuting? Several of us were.

Selma: Thank you AY...I worked myself into a lather, getting it together...LOL

AYWalton: I know that Noreen from Baltimore was commuting, and just for the day on Saturday.

alt: was Alice Sykes there?

AYWalton: I did not see her, alt.

Selma: Yes she was commuting...I could have stayed at my son's but didn't want to drive back and forth

AYWalton: Did you stay for the dance, Selma?

Selma: Nope..took my tired body and went to bed...the dessert was good again We had crab cakes for dinner they were good too.. LOL

AYWalton: Selma, what did Charles Howard talk about in the State of the Society address? (that does sound good!)

Selma: I don't know I missed....

AYWalton: ahh ok. I was wondering.

alt: were there many attendees from outside the 'eastern seaboard'?

Selma: Bipsylou was there from CA..but most people from closer

AYWalton: Alt, do you remember Dorothy Sands from California---she used to be Bipsy from the old AOL chat. yes, I think she was the only California attendee. Don't know if many/any were from the midwest.

Selma: Tamela from ARkansas

alt: yes I do, she's from Dayton, Oh and went to Ohio UNiv, I knew her back in the 1950's

AYWalton: and since Chicago had their conference this weekend, and lots of St. Louis folks went to Chicago, I guess that was a draw for midwestern folks. Tamela and Mr. Henderson from Little Rock were t here, but they were the only two.

alt: and I think I remember Tamela from Arkansas she was at Ft. Wayne, right?

AYWalton: yes. Tamela Tenpenny Lewis.

Selma: Tamela's first family reunion is this weekend...she left yesterday in the AM

Ingrid_Doweary: AY, was she wearing the Cemetery Lady shirt?

AYWalton: I was so sorry I did not get to hang with ehr. yes she was the Cemetery Lady. Her PAAC organization is doing a lot.

Ingrid_Doweary: Oh okay.

Selma: She showed excerpts from the documentary on Arkansas was very good in one scene..they took a bus load of kids to a cemetary

deannie: I meet Tamela when we were in Ft Wayne

alt: she (Tamela) told me I looked like Jesse Jackson, I told her wrong.. Jesse Jackson looked like me... LOL

AYWalton: which is a good way to get children interested in preservation.

Ingrid_Doweary: I need to tap into her research efforts. I have ancestors and kin buried in Arkansas aw well.

Selma: She told careful and don't fall in any holes, cause we are going to leave you was hysterical and so Tamela

AYWalton: LOL I like the way you talk, alt!

deannie: lol

Ingrid_Doweary: I look forward to watching that documentary, Selma. aw=as

AYWalton: well folks I have to run. Have a great day everybody.

Ingrid_Doweary: It's been good talking with you AY.

Selma: Great meeting you too is nice when you meet folks you only tlak to online

Ingrid_Doweary: I agree Selma. It was great to meet you as well. Look forward to hearing more about your research efforts.


Ingrid_Doweary: What do you have there, Alt?

alt: I think thisis the uRL for Angela's photos

Selma: Afternoon seventies

seventies soulchild: Good afternoon all!

Ingrid_Doweary: Yes it is. Hey Soulchild!

alt: hello seventies soulchild

deannie: Hu seventies

seventies soulchild: hi alt, deannie, Ingrid_Doweary, Selma & Spivey Just finished keeping my nephew... lol no more babies for me! :}

deannie: ditto....only to babysit

Spivey: Hi seventies soulchild!

Ingrid_Doweary: Seventies, I saw Hari Jones at the AAAHGS conference on Friday morning, but I didn't get to ask he about the videos of past presentations

seventies soulchild: Ah ok Thanks for thinking of it Ingrid_Doweary

Ingrid_Doweary: Hari Jones, curator of AACWM.

seventies soulchild: Did he give a presentation?

Selma: Yes, he did seventies..he was very good

seventies soulchild: Too bad I didn't know about it. I would've loved to come out to D.C./MD area this long weekend.

Ingrid_Doweary: Yes he did, however I was unable to hear it, because I was setting up the AfriGeneas exhibit table.

seventies soulchild: ok

alt: vkn had ya workin', huh Ingrid_Doweary LOL

seventies soulchild: :}

Ingrid_Doweary: Oh we've got to put you on list. It was great work with wonderful benefits, Seventies. :}

Selma: It was the AAHGS conference seventies

seventies soulchild: I'm going to need more pictures of the memorial! lol For the local chapter?

Ingrid_Doweary: I'll shoot some to you. How many and which angles do you need?

Spivey: Have a good day everyone.

alt: wow, forget Spivey was here...

seventies soulchild: I want to get some of the 5th Heavy Artillery & I need a genealogy angel too... :'{

deannie: I have run also.....have a great Gen Day

seventies soulchild: bye deannie

Selma: I Have to run too..thnk I need a nap...Have a great day

alt: my trun.. laters y'all

Ingrid_Doweary: Yeah, talk to me, how can I help?

seventies soulchild: bye selma & alt... lol

Ingrid_Doweary: They are quick aren

seventies soulchild: exactly :}

Ingrid_Doweary: aren't they?

seventies soulchild: I want to get a pension file for James Galimore, but those things are $75 and up.

Ingrid_Doweary: I' ll be happy to assist you where I can.

seventies soulchild: Right now money is admittedly tight.

Ingrid_Doweary: Okay email me the informaton and I'll look for it for you. I attended a workshop this past spring on reading pension files.

seventies soulchild: I wonder if its any cheaper to get the files from the Nat'l archives directly? Thanks Ingrid! There are some particular people that I suspect will appear on the file. Wellington Gordon being one of them.

Ingrid_Doweary: We can both inquire about that also. Check the NARA website on military records. My email is

David: Good Morning, I mean afternoon!

seventies soulchild: ok thanks... will get in touch with you with the appropriate info

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey David. How are you?

seventies soulchild: Hello David

David: Super, thank you! How are you?

seventies soulchild: I missed you a couple of weeks ago. How are you? Who are you researching?

Ingrid_Doweary: I'm good.

seventies soulchild: Hello trisha

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey Trisha, how are you?

trisha: good morning everyone

seventies soulchild: brb brother just walked in

trisha: i'm well..thanks Ingrid...I hope all is well with everyone

David: Still researching everybody in 19th c. Upson County

Ingrid_Doweary: I'm good thank you also for asking. Upson County is in which state, David?

seventies soulchild: Who and where are you researching trisha?

trisha: oh my...still trying to extend my father's maternal line...Marandy Sanders, Tuscaloosa AL possibly extending back to North Carolina....

David: Upson is in GA. Am also editing the autobiography of Houston Hartsfield Holloway, ex-slave, AME preacher, and blacksmith who was born in Upson but lived many of his youthful years in neighboring Meriwether Co.

seventies soulchild: ok interesting. trisha seems like a lot of blacks came into AL from NC & SC whites too.

Ingrid_Doweary: So how far have you gotten, Trisha? Have you begun with yourself and proceeded backwards. ?

trisha: well this is a not a certainty for me...on my GGM's 1880 census record she lists her parents from NC, along with names George Williams and Ann Robeson...on her death cert her parents were listed as from AL....I don't know anything about the NC connection

seventies soulchild: One of the lines I'm researching in AL, Mixon show the parents being born in AL & a possible slave owner or their child being born in SC

trisha: I didn't have much info from my father who passed in 1998...he and his twin were the babies of the family so all the direct info ended with him....

seventies soulchild: Another line in AL, Lanier looks like they came from NC

trisha: but...I have found some incredible info and meet some wonderful genealogy angels

David: Western migration is perhaps the most important dynamic to remember when tracing ancestors found in the south and west states. Difficult to imagine that upcountry Georgia was considered "the frontier" in the 1820s.

Ingrid_Doweary: Have you reviewed other census records with your GGM, either before or after 1880.

seventies soulchild: Alabama & Mississippi to were considered the 'frontier'

David: Yes indeed

trisha: i have tried 1870s but can't lock down a 1880 she is listed as divorced and have her married name...

Ingrid_Doweary: Yes I'm sure it was incredible at that time, David.

trisha: it's been interesting, fun, exciting and stressful

Ingrid_Doweary: Hopefully you're taking it one piece at a time, Trisha :)

trisha:, i admit, I tend to dive in and go in a million directions at the same time :D

seventies soulchild: that's ok... :}

trisha: but...i do back up and try and focus

seventies soulchild: David, some of the records I've looked at for MS were land grants and census records in spanish.

trisha: i have had some great help with Afrigeneas folks as well

seventies soulchild: trisha, I would try looking for the mother, Ann Robeson in 1870. Do you know if your gg grandmother had any siblings?

Ingrid_Doweary: Me also. That's why I said that. lol Got about 30 surnames to research. Currently I'm researching about 5-6 and I'm talking about at least 2 people at a time. Yes the AfriGeneas family has been a wonderful resource for me.

seventies soulchild: Ingrid_Doweary, I have quite a few surnames that keep coming up the further I go back... :}

Ingrid_Doweary: Seventies I wouldn't be surprised about the records in spanish since MS is a gulf state. Yes those surnames keep coming.

seventies soulchild: Yes, in the Natchez district... and the spanish kept records better than the English...

Ingrid_Doweary: The geography also includes county/territorial formations. Makes interesting study for ancestral geography. wb Seventies.

seventies soulchild: yes it does. lots of historical documents.

Ingrid_Doweary: So David are you presently involved community history research?

seventies soulchild: Anyone there?

Ingrid_Doweary: David is probably multitasking as I am, I suspect.

trisha: back..sorry...had to check on my puppy ::smile::

seventies soulchild: ok there you all are! :}

Ingrid_Doweary: :}

trisha: I need to try and find the Ann Robeson/Roberson link...

Ingrid_Doweary: What's the topic, Trisha?

trisha: but that time from 1870 and prior for a woman is a difficult task

seventies soulchild: I had something similar, but I knew a couple of my gggrandmother's siblings. So I used them to trace the family

trisha: I was just giving a bit of info on what I am researching... father's maternal line

seventies soulchild: ok I'm a little reluctant to go into my father's line. Its going to be a lot of work.

trisha: are so right! lol but it can be exciting and rewarding

seventies soulchild: Well I don't know much about them & I will have to start with my great grandparents because the line ends with my dad & his siblings.

trisha: my father told very little about his family...especially his father...but I am determined to do so sounds like my scenario soulchild

Ingrid_Doweary: Take you time then. Just be sure to make a list of your research goals and objectives for your father's research so you can also stay on point where your researching.

seventies soulchild: From time to time I eavesdrop in on my dad & his brother talking about some of our relatives & have a few obits. So I get bits and pieces

trisha: that's very important Ingrid...I have found the same "discovery" many times....organization and documentation are so important

Ingrid_Doweary: After you check with your grandparents's be sure to cross reference the information with your father's siblings info.

trisha: and I seem to be allergic to those traits :(

seventies soulchild: lol

Ingrid_Doweary: Indeed, Trisha. It certainly helps me especially with my varying interests. What are your thoughts, David?

seventies soulchild: Well its a long weekend and I want to do a little more research on this potential Galmore ancestor I found last week.

trisha: if you don't mind my asking...what are your plans for your research?

seventies soulchild: my plans are to just give the information to the family.

trisha: I am working on a book...or what I hope evolves into a book

seventies soulchild: No book plans on my end. Just want to get my folks together.

Ingrid_Doweary: Currently I working on developing my writing skills so I can eventually publish.

seventies soulchild: Family history is so important, especially when speaking on a larger level of our history in the new world.

trisha: yes...I will give my book to family members. Its funny, I have given several generations of my book to them and everyone is sooooo excited. I tell them, it's a work in progress and will probably be updated or changed. But they don't care. It almost is a validation to some prove to...myself and others I guess that we were here, we did exist, to show that my family had roots....

Ingrid_Doweary: Well it's a good start especially when it encourages family to provide more family info.

trisha: original, right? :)

seventies soulchild: Everyone has roots... :} but we are a special people.

Ingrid_Doweary: I wholeheardly agree, Trisha. That's why I'm in this to document our history and our full contributions. Our histories are certainly connective and are foundations for collectives.

seventies soulchild: Agree

trisha: exactly. I wonder why it was so important to my father and his siblings to obscure there histories...what could be so bad...and then I realize it must have been dangerous or not safe to admit some things back in their childhoods... I can't imagine what their lives must have been like, what they had to live through, endure, accept

seventies soulchild: Besides, I'm doing it for my children.

trisha: that's great soulchild

seventies soulchild: I love to tell my kids that they are heirs and about their ggggg grandparents.

Ingrid_Doweary: You'll proably have no idea until you uncover the painful elements of their story. I'm with Seventies about passing this on to our children. This would included their children's children and so on. That's the spirit, Seventies. :}

seventies soulchild: I tell you, I had no idea about my gg grandfather & ggg grandparents and their personal accomplishments when I was a kid. If I did I think things would've gone much differently in some of my choices in life.

trisha: I don't have children...but I do have neices, no nephews ::smile:: and one of them is quite interested in her family....where she came from and most of all, are there in famous people in her family lol

seventies soulchild: But that was one of the costs of growing up outside of the south. lol trisha, aren't they all! At least she's interested

trisha: hehe

Ingrid_Doweary: There you go, Trisha. See you do have younger generations to pass the family history to. My target also includes my nieces, nephews and cousins of all degrees.

trisha: do you guys go to the conferences on genealogy? it's been several years since I have...I went to Nashville a few years ago....and have been to Samford for the AA seminar

Ingrid_Doweary: I volunteered to respresent the AfriGeneas exhibit table at the AAHGS this past Friday and Saturday.

trisha: cool! how was it?

seventies soulchild: I haven't been to any Trisha

trisha: they can be so great...

Ingrid_Doweary: It's good you went to Samford. I have yet to go. Here's a link to AY's photos of the conference. It was so much fun.

seventies soulchild: uh oh... wb trisha

trisha: oy...i got bumped

Ingrid_Doweary: uh oh. WB Trisha. Wonderful venue for networking.

seventies soulchild: :}

trisha: wow! where was it?

Ingrid_Doweary: The flow of information and the learning experience is endless. The AAHGS was in Adelphi, MD at the University of Maryland University College Conference Center.

trisha: I want to get abck to attending more of these, when I can, especially in the southeast

Ingrid_Doweary: Sounds good Trisha. Have at it.

trisha: i will take motiviation anywhere I can get it!

seventies soulchild: How did the booth go, Ingrid? Did it generate lots of interest?

Ingrid_Doweary: I hear you, go for it.

seventies soulchild: hello ryan

Ingrid_Doweary: Hey Ryan.

trisha: Hey Ryan

ryan: Hello Ingrid, 70s and Trisha - nice meeting you

trisha: and u also ::smile::

seventies soulchild: What are y'all going to do for the long weekend? I see that folks are on Afrigeneas today, thats a good sign :)

trisha: no long weekend for me.... ::sigh::

ryan: Never been on Sunday brunch, I saw AY stated on FB you guys were here.. I was on last night for a bit though

Ingrid_Doweary: Glad to meet you , also, Trisha.

trisha: thanks...u too Ingrid ::smile::

Ingrid_Doweary: I'm on a long weekend.

trisha: what are you researching Ryan? Or what have you found?

ryan: I don't get Monday off, so I work.. The rest of the day, my sone has his homecoming football game at 2:30 (cst), and the team is going out to dinner.. so that kills the rest of my day

Ingrid_Doweary: understood.

ryan: Tenn, Miss (Shelby TN) and Marshall, Leflore, MS

seventies soulchild: Well have fun & get rested up ryan :}

ryan: thx 70s and you trisha?

Ingrid_Doweary: Ryan, have you heard from edadams, lately? I was intriqued with his web site.

ryan: Ingrid, yes. We have an email thread going, one of my cousins in Morovia, Liberia is getting some info for him.. Trisha, what states/counties ?

Ingrid_Doweary: Sounds good.

trisha: AL and maybe NC i am trying to explore my father's maternal line

Ingrid_Doweary: Is this in Louisiana, Ryan?

trisha: i am trying to explore my father's maternal line

ryan: He is doing some research about slaves that returned. My mothers brother was a cook county sherrif in here back in the 1960's, and Ed was a sherrif with him. He knew my uncle.. Well, my uncle left Chicago and took his family to Liberia back in 1969, so I'm reconnecting Ed with someone he knows, and someone that can get info over there for him..

trisha: you have a full day from the sound of it ryan ::smile::

ryan: Monrovia, Liberia West Africa Ingrid

seventies soulchild: oh okay I was wondering what the connection was

trisha: that's fascinating ryan

seventies soulchild: read Mississippi in Africa. Good book.

ryan: ok, 70's will check that out

trisha: have you all found that researching women prior to 1880 has been a struggle?

Ingrid_Doweary: Of course!

ryan: I think anyone black would be a struggle before 1880/1870

seventies soulchild: also ryan, I think I may have found a connection to the Galmores in Northern MS & the ones in Southern MS. I'll let you know

trisha: geesh....

Ingrid_Doweary: Sometimes, somestimes not if they were free.

ryan: ok 70's the ones that I was pointing you to were Marshall county..

trisha: it can be so daunting

seventies soulchild: Marshall & Panola counties I've seen quite a few Galmore's

Ingrid_Doweary: There are registries for Free persons of color.

ryan: ok.. again, I think there are some in Lamar, Marshall, MS today... so if they're older, they may be able to close some loops for you

seventies soulchild: ok

ryan: I'm good for contacting perfect strangers, and have had lots of sucess.. Most folks are pretty good about it

seventies soulchild: really? you must be a charmer! :}

ryan: I am.... :)

seventies soulchild: lol

Ingrid_Doweary: lol

trisha: hey...whatever it takes

Ingrid_Doweary: lol

ryan: First thing I do is introduce myself, then they think I'm a telemarketer. Then I go on and tell them that I'm researching the name in that area and had a couple quick questions

trisha: maybe that's where I am falling short ;) lol

Ingrid_Doweary: I like that approach, Ryan. Mind I if I try it?

seventies soulchild: I will have to try that too.

ryan: I know it sounds strange, but let me tell you. I have learned SOO much, and have confirmed Sooo much with this.. You just better have a pretty good hunch you know who you are talking to first. Then, they open up and listen and then talk

trisha: don't be tooooo charming folks

Ingrid_Doweary: Thank you for that, Ryan. :}

ryan: I got a 90 year old guy in sound mind and he confirmed a huge connection to my family through his ancestors as well

seventies soulchild: So basically you have to do a little background work

trisha: that's great ryan

seventies soulchild: So now how do you know the Galmore's in Lamar? Have you talked to them or their descendants?

ryan: Yes 70's you gotta know or have a pretty good idea.. and know what questions to ask (like about who - and start naming names)

Ingrid_Doweary: It's been wonderful, folks. I'll have to sign off here.. Until next time. :)

seventies soulchild: Later Ingrid. Check your email

ryan: No, that was a directory I saw (they showed up like next to folks in my family)

trisha: k....ciao Ingrid

seventies soulchild: Ah okay. I'm going to have to do a little further research then.

ryan: again, most folks are pretty cool.. especially when you start talkin about uncle fred

seventies soulchild: I figured as much.

ryan: thats how you draw them in... then you got the keys to the city...

trisha: true

ryan: you know, going back to 1870 was too easy.. I started wondering.. so what happend to this or that person, so I started researching decendants and building the tree that way..

seventies soulchild: Hmmm you know any galmores I could talk to? Right, I'm kind of there now, ryan. I know the Galmore's going back to my gg grandfather Kendy & his mother Phoebe


seventies soulchild: I'll mention some of my great grandmother's siblings & she was raised with a cousin John as well.

ryan: yes.. if you're lucky, you gotta hit, if you're wrong.. (if they know up front you are a researcher, and you are researching the name in the area.. that helps disarm them

seventies soulchild: right ah ha.

ryan: holly springs and lamar are pretty much the same area here's some more

seventies soulchild: ok thanks....

ryan: good luck with that.. just do you research before you call..

seventies soulchild: I see Bessie, could also be Cressie...

trisha: good advice

ryan: Make sure big mama lived nearby :)

seventies soulchild: Ah no... lol I'll have to get with my cousins to see who went where to visit who.

ryan: I love it.. I'm telling you I've met so many people this way and reconnected with so much family yes... Holly springs is the key (main town in that area) did big momma go to Holly springs?

trisha: what's the most exciting or pivotal find you have made? either of u guys?

seventies soulchild: So many trisha! Where do I start! lol

trisha: lol

seventies soulchild: my ggg grandparents Charles and Charity Rounds purchased a plantation and all the acreage after slavery.

trisha: wow

ryan: Me trisha - confirming who the family is that owned my great great grandfather, and where they came from..

seventies soulchild: They had a son who fought in the Civil War and died. I found out the names of their owner & their parents.

trisha: get out! these are amazing

seventies soulchild: Finding family that came from Mexico

trisha: and the kinds of things that motivate and make me want to keep going

ryan: and, I've even reconnected with that family as well... and shared information with researchers from that family they did not have and learn more about the family.. because I figured the more I know about them, the more sucess I will have delving into records about my family

seventies soulchild: finding out that a great grandfather owned a store and a 400 acre piece of land during reconstruction.

ryan: Trisha - Point we can go on and on..

seventies soulchild: Finding out that my great grandfather served in WWI & during the great depression helped people who were wandering the U.S. in search of work.. etc. etc. etc.

ryan: Thats why we do it

trisha: Me - having my male cousin take a dna test that confirms his father and my dad's twin brother were the offsprings of a man that my ggm and ggmother worked for and live with; who has a lineage that goes back to 1690 Wales

seventies soulchild: interesting. . .

trisha: this line has been involved in several wars and the american revolution

ryan: cool -Trisha.. One of the slave holders from my grandfathers family has done the DNA test and offered for me to do it as well to make that connection.. I have not done so yet

seventies soulchild: I took my MtDNA test last year and traced to Guinea-bissau

trisha: take advantage of it ryan...that's an amazing process

ryan: hm, ok I know that would open up a pandoras box for me, I ant ready for it.. I would never get anything done

seventies soulchild: I'm totally reluctant to have this test done on a male descendant because I really don't 'want' to know...

trisha: lol, i hear ya...

seventies soulchild: Yep ryan I feel the same

trisha: and it's almost paralyzing...when I can get so much info on my dad's paternal line and his maternal line almost didn't exist, as far as documentation

ryan: I will eventually when less time constrained.. I usually make the rounds Oct - March (the cold calls) :) If they're good sport, I send them a packet of information about the family so they have it too

trisha: nice ::smile::

seventies soulchild: Summer is the best time for me.

ryan: not sure I'll be able to do to many this year thought.. The other thing is I need to get down there to see Tom Penilton in Lamar, (90+ year old guy)

seventies soulchild: Reunions are a goldmine of information as well as funerals.

ryan: The other thing I found "a trip" and rewarding is the fact that I confirmed the "changing of a name" from Pennington to Penilton - most of them have no clue the origins of the name and of course are aphrensive about it until you produce the records, and sure enough there go big daddy

trisha: ::sigh:: I have not gone to many reunions. Our family, my father loved his family, but he didn't associate much with his family other than his brother and we didn't either (my sisters or I)

seventies soulchild: Ah right... something I am encountering with this Galmore name

ryan: yes... well yall I gotta run.. but I will catch up later

seventies soulchild: Yeah I gotta run too its almost 230

trisha: yeah...i need to run also

seventies soulchild: Good bye trisha see you tomorrow?

trisha: I work tomorrwo :-( but I will be around

seventies soulchild: geez well sorry... enjoy your day anyway.

trisha: ciao ::smile::

seventies soulchild: ciao

18 Dec 2002 :: 1 Feb 2009
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