*LunchBunch
Start: 12:04:54
End: 13:15:32
Chatters: alt, daviss, Khathu, Selma, Seventies, vkn
Seventies: Hi Selma. How are you?
Selma: Good afternoon seventies...I see we are both ON TIME for a change.. LOL Doing Ok..how are you?
Seventies: lol right! Trying to figure out what the weather will be like this week. lol
Selma: It is suppose the be a little cooler here this week..thank goodness
Seventies: Sweaters, Long sleeve, short sleeve, etc. lol
Selma: I pulled out my sweaters over the weekend..just have them handy just in case
Seventies: I'm wearing a sweater and boots today. Just in case.
Selma: According to the style experts...layers are in..remove as needed.. LOL
Seventies: Well, this is why I cannot stand living in the NE. I need a definite hot, warm or just cold.
Selma: I have to listen to Melvin oral interview with a relative..glad he found it Oh..I like the seasons..
Seventies: I saw that. I was glad too.
Selma: Jeez...this shooting at Naval Yard in DC
Seventies: I have some paper docs that I am just now getting around to scanning onto my computer. I can't. not today Selma. smh
Selma: I understand..somedays its just too much Speaking of scanning it is a great idea..I have reached a "critical mass"..and I had the nerve to go copy some things last week
Seventies: lol
Selma: But it was for a book I had been looking for for a number of years..
Seventies: hi alt
Selma: Good afternoon alt...YOU ARE LATE
Seventies: Ok in that case Selma, its ok :}
alt: hello ladies Selma & Seventies ... hope y'all had a great weekend
Selma: Seventies and I were here on time..
Seventies: Very... tsk tsk tsk lol here comes the other straggler... lol
Selma: Another tardy person has arrived.. Morning daviss
Seventies: Passes please.
daviss: hello alt, Selma and Seventies!
Seventies: hi daviss! lol
alt: sorry bout that.. I got caught up talking with one of my dearest & oldest friends , today is his birthday ... 81 y/o
Seventies: nice!!!
alt: Hello daviss
Selma: OK..alt, very good excuse..and you daviss?
daviss: lol a lady never tells
alt: He now lives in Indianapolis, IN and we've been friends for 75 years.
Selma: We didn't ask how old you are..we asked why you were late.. LOL
daviss: lol
alt: okay Selma....
daviss: uh oh the shooter was Black smh
Selma: Well wish your friend a Happy Birthday for us alt...81 is cause for celebration
Seventies: You know what that means. :{ Hide your wife, hide your kids, because the cops will be harassing every Black person out here.
daviss: they are looking for potentially two other people
Seventies: No I do not like how police treat Black people. This is why this is off topic for me today. Thanks daviss.
daviss: get back on topic
Seventies: Well, I have some topics to kind of discuss. I was scanning finally some docs I had recieved a while back.
daviss: ok
Seventies: Alabama records and some DCs from MS Marriage records
daviss: What kind of scanner do you have
alt: are you creating an album(s) of those scanned documents?
Seventies: well, I put them in individual folders on the computer. I thought about putting them on the FB page.
Selma: Are you going to post on your blog? Ok you answered
Seventies: What blog? lol
alt: This is an example of what I've tried to do with photos, albums by ..type of document and placed in chronological order. http://tinyurl.com/ldnceod
Seventies: I may do a posting about Jack Westrope. Love that guy! Took so much work to find him.
Selma: and who is Jack Westrope?
Seventies: Jack Westrope is the brother of my gg grandfather Scott Washington.
daviss: Speaking of blogs, I finally got off my duff and wrote another one
Seventies: I am also in love with my uncle Scott Washington Jr. Took some work to find him too.
alt: and it was a very nice, well written story daviss
Seventies: Yes, I need to get off my duff too daviss.
daviss: thanks alt
Selma: Yes you did daviss...very nice..
daviss: thanks to you as well Selma
Seventies: I can't front, I didn't even read it... lol
alt: Seventies, it is very nice.. and easy to access, when you have all of your photos in a central location and categorized.
daviss: thanks Seventies :{ lol
Seventies: Well tell the truth, shame the devil.. lol
daviss: he could care less
Seventies: ok all, I have a new computer and having some issues... so forgive me if well you know, I can't see what you all are talking about. lol hi vkn
Selma: Good afternoon vkn
alt: speaking of photos .. has anyone viewed the 'Teenie Harris' collection of photos from the Pittsburgh Courier?... over 40 years of photographic "jewels"
daviss: hello vkn! yes alt quite awhile ago
vkn: Howdy Seventies Selma Daviss Alt
Seventies: I need some pics of Selma, AL and Dallas Co, AL sorry 'bout that .. lol
alt: my friend that I was speaking with is going to do something similar with photos from Ohio & Indiana that he has taken over the past 40-50 years.
vkn: BJ will have plenty of those Seventies
alt: hello vkn
Seventies: BJ is off the chain busy.
Selma: OK I will leave that alone.. Next topic
Seventies: So what is going on with the AA genea-
vkn: back to gem e alogy
daviss: yes, so as Seventies was saying scanning docs how was your weekend for genealogy vkn?
vkn: Helping a Black youngster [age 30] with DAR application and problem using name of step father
Seventies: yes I was scanning docs.. lol But giggling at someone who just found their family Tompkins spelled Thompkins... wow. Should I recommend the guide?
Khathu: Hello everyone
vkn: DAR wants birth and marriage cert and she is trying to qualify on alleged white father
daviss: I think I read that also Seventies
alt: hello Khathu
vkn: Howdy Khathu
Seventies: hi khathu.
daviss: hello Khathu!
Selma: Not sure that "alleged" will qualify vkn
alt: that can be difficult vkn
Khathu: DAR will accept indirect evidence
Seventies: I sure hate giving advice to people who will most likely not take it, But I can't help it. Hopefully it will save them problems in the long run.
vkn: I agree BUT she is determined
daviss: no adoption vkn just step???
Khathu: I talked to Hollis Gentry about the evidence and documentation required for membership @daviss no adoption
daviss: You can give Seventies and once you do its up to them to follow through
vkn: just step. Claiming slave owner as line from which she qualifies SMH
daviss: oh I see
alt: indirect evidence is 'accepted' if there is more than 1 piece of documentation that 'helps' to prove the connection. oral history of the slave owner/white father won't get it on it's own merits
Khathu: It is amazing to me how so many people think that the slave owner was the father of their mixed race enslaved ancestors. They fail to realize it could have been any white man since enslaved women had no rights that men especially white men were bound to respect absolutely alt.
vkn: well we are trying to help with the indirect but it looks hopeless
Seventies: Its the younger people. Most of the older people know this.
alt: good luck with that vkn
vkn: Thanx
Khathu: I had a woman come to the FHC last month determined to get into the DAR based on oral history that the slave owner was her ancestor.
Seventies: One thing I have really had to learn the hard way is NOT making assumptions about the family tree.
Khathu: She has gone so far as to reach out to the white descendants
Seventies: SMH
Khathu: She hasn't even proven that her ancestor was even owned that this particular slave holding family yet but she is determined to get into the DAR.
vkn: Did y'all get blog from Mel Collier with 102 yr old ancestor interview?
alt: yes vkn, I read his blog
Selma: If she hadn't even done the basics Khathu..then it is fruitless
Khathu: I agree and that is what I suggested to her. Then I walk away
vkn: Also I sent articles related to slave girls and age of consent did y'all get
Khathu: The oral history should be used as a guide and not as gospel.
Seventies: Right.
daviss: yes vkn
Khathu: Yes, I did. Thanks vkn
vkn: any thoughts?
Khathu: I talked to keli1 yesterday about MAAGI
alt: and the slave owner for DAR is a heck of lot further back in time than a last slave owner from around the CW time period yes ,,, thanks for the links vkn
vkn: okies
Khathu: The research has already be done by the white descendants of the potential last slave owner
alt: how many generations between the mid to late 1700's & the 1860's?
Khathu: So her rationale is that if she can connect her ancestor to the slave owner then she in
Seventies: You know, I see that a lot of people are jumping ahead to try to locate the last slave holding family when they still haven't even documented their families from 1870 forward!
daviss: yep Seventies
Khathu: What people fail to realize if you don't know how to document relationship between individuals and between generations, they will never be able to do slave era research
vkn: Will also send .pdf of Union service men buried at Andersonville with by State. 8 from Alabama!!!!!
Seventies: The information that I have come across on one line of my family is PURELY because the information is fairly public.
alt: for sure,, when these youngsters talk about grands & even great-grands they/some aren't even back to the early 1900's
Khathu: I guess I ruffled some feather with my comments on Thursdays
Seventies: lol lol lol *dead*
alt: not here Khathu
vkn: Thursday???
Seventies: Some times folks just need to take a 'chill pill'. Really.
vkn: What chew talking bout Khathu lol
Selma: Folks..I have to run
Seventies: I am definitely going to have to plead the fif here.. lol
Khathu: Yes, on Thursday about race specific sessions vs. sessions focused on methodology, research, documents
alt: later Selma
Selma: Have to run
Khathu: you weren't even present Ms. fif
Seventies: No I wasn't, but what I heard sure was well.. again I invoke the fif!
Khathu: lol
Seventies: Look y'all we have a situation where there are a lot of real new people to genealogy looking for their families online. They need HELP and not lookups. Some of the things I'm just looking at today, just. . . SMH
Khathu: gotta run ttyl
Seventies: oh now you gotta run.. lol
Khathu: lol
alt: get on his case Seventies
vkn: What means help seventies
Seventies: People think everyting is online... good gracious!
vkn: okies
Seventies: HELP in the way I'm using it means learn how to research and not just use people to do your research.
vkn: I see
Seventies: Know what you are supposed to be looking for. Know how to look at the records and for crying out loud if you have an ancestor born AFTER their parent, clearly they are NOT the parent!
alt: offend them Seventies & tell'em to use their look-up & search skills from Facebook, etc. to search libraries & vital records repositories, etc.
vkn: lol
Seventies: LOL
vkn: Well tell me how Ancestry.com and facebook connect?
Seventies: The person I was responding to on FB is ready to go to MDAH to find their families slave holding family, but didn't know that there was a spelling variation in Tompkins... Seriously. No sit down and read. Y'all got me making typos here I'm so fed up.. lol Then they get an attitude with you when you DO tell them regardless of how nicely, how they could go about researching.
alt: they both have "search" features for one example vkn.
Seventies: If i've ever done that to you all, please forgive me. lol
vkn: When I go to ancestry now it prompts me to connect via facebook so what is up with that
Seventies: daviss.. you 'woke? lol This is why I have backed up off some of this advice giving.
vkn: Confuses me
Seventies: They are trying to do like every other site, get your information.
alt: marketing... by both trying to get a piece of the pie ..spelled M-O-N-E-Y
Seventies: Right alt.
daviss: I always tell you to not give up on them
vkn: gotcha alt
daviss: Some truly have no idea
Seventies: I already have two people who don't think I know what I'm talking about... they are called teenagers. lol
vkn: lol lol lol
daviss: Now that is a different story Seventies
vkn: that is in house seventies lol
alt: been there and done that Seventies .. I'm now bout to enter it again for the 3rd time with great grandkids approaching the teenage years LOL LOL
Seventies: My patience is only but so long. alt you know what I'm talking about... lol
alt: yep, and even with seasoned researchers ... your research experiences may not be the same as my experiences.
vkn: Daviss hope you are feeling better
Seventies: But there are some basics...
daviss: trying vkn
alt: no doubt Seventies
vkn: absolutely alt or the modality
Seventies: that's what I'm talking about. I still have lines that I need to trace down to the 1930's and 1940's Forget about slave research! lol
alt: right.. and your research could be in 'rural' areas where mine is all in "urban' areas....
Seventies: Almost all of my research before 1930 is in rural areas.
vkn: I would say start with self and work back is in stone but all else is free flowing
Seventies: Or start with what you KNOW.
alt: so very true vkn & Seventies and as Selma reminds us ... you need to know some history & geography outside of your family structure.
Seventies: Indeed.
alt: well, time for me to skedaddle.. laters ya'll
Seventies: Ok I gotta go... enough slacking off for the day.. lol
daviss: ok I guess you are next vkn
vkn: lol yes
daviss: ok lol have a great day