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Re: Cherokee Freedmen Citizenship Issues

You are so right about the blood quantum and card thing...and I totally agree citizenship should not be based on who was on the final rolls of tribes..I feel it should be based on genealogical evidence, using the final rolls as potentially part of the evidence, but not as a requirement...Too many people can prove genealogically their Indian blood who have no ancestor on the final rolls...
I have a friend who has an adopted white ancestor on the Choctaw final "by blood" rolls...(which is a trip in itself) and she also has ancestors on the Freedman searching back we find a "potential" mixedblood ancestor in 1832 Choctaw Nation MS listed as a Choctaw...The name and age and location fits...however, when my friend points this out to Tribal officials, she is told "oh no..this is NOT your ancestor, yours are on the Freedmen rolls, and someone else has connected with this person you found and is enrolled"...and she was expected to just go away....I have encouraged her to dig deeper and to contact the person who "claimed" this Choctaw from 1832 in order to determine if they have any actual proof that he is their ancestor, 1., and if so, 2. to look for more info as to what other descendants this one Choctaw had....because chances are high that my friend is also a descendant...To my knowledge, it would be hard to "prove" that a Choctaw in 1832 was or was not someone's ancestor when all the info they have in family records is a name and a Tribe and a location...If two families have the same is it determined which is the descendant, or whether both or neither are the descendants? It looks to me like this mixedblood Choctaw was indeed Choctaw in 1832 MS, but when the removal happened and he came to I.T., had kids and then died before the Dawes period, some of his children were "relegated" to the Freedmen rolls....This is the kind of tedious junk a person has to deal with if they want to know the truth...the information is out there, and worth the effort of hunting it...You have to go back beyond the time of the Freedmen rolls if you want to get a better idea of those who were classified Freedmen, slaves, slave owners...
This same friend has another ancestor listed on the 1860 slave schedule of the Choctaw Nation..and the slave owner is a mixedblood named Booker Keel with only one this case, the slave owner is the ancestor, tho the slave is of the right age and sex to be also an ancestor...unfortunately, the name is not there for the slave...

18 Dec 2002 :: 14 Nov 2008
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