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Re: Majority Rules - Creek Nation

It only seems cryptic to you because you don't understand. It appears to be nonsense to you because you don't understand. No, its not a red thing, its a human thing. Sadly, you don't understand. Martin Luther King Jr. understood it.

There is one thing you said that needs to be addressed, the rest no. That is:

IV said:
"...what is in it for black people to beg one oppressed group for inclusion?"

David replies:
We are not talking about "black people" generally. This issue isn't about black people, even if those black people have or think they have Indian blood. The issue of the Freedmen is about being a citizen of government. It matters little that the government in question is a tribe. It just as easily could be a city, county or state.

Tribes are members of the American family of governments. There are persons of African descent who are citizens of every member of that family of governments, including tribes. It would be untenable that blacks or any race would be excluded from the full enjoyment of their rights in their government. Tribes are no different. Blacks appear among the other citizens of those tribal governments.

Whether what is in it for the individual is services rooted in poverty or the satisfaction of exercising ones legal rights makes no difference. In fact, what is "in it" for the individual may be as diverse as the number of individual members. Each part of the whole constitutes the whole. The Freedmen are a part of the whole, whether the rest of the tribe accepts them or not. Rejection of the Freedmen, in my opinion, should spur them on to inclusion and participation regardless of the views of the rest of tribal society.

Further, your statement rests upon the presumption that the black Cherokees are not a part of the oppressed tribal population. They are. To extract them would be like trying to separate conjoined who share a single set of organs. One twin will get the organs and survive. The other twin will die. Without their citizenship in the Cherokee Nation (and other FCT) the Freedmen are just black folks with ancestors who USE TO BE tribal citizens.

Who knows what the Freedmen could get from the citizenship in the Cherokee Nation. They've never fully been able to find out. Perhaps they could do what black America has done with their civil rights. You just never know. Nor does it matter because citizenship and civil rights must never be atenuated to handout or blood.

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