Wow really hmmmm well, I thank you I'm just guessing the 20 year old from vinita Oklahoma is as close as you can get since my descendants lives in vinita.... This is really funny how almost a whole town is related through marriage, intermarriage or other relationships! I searched and Ellis vann was not coming up. Can you tell me which site you us for your searches? Thank you for all your help! Have a great day! I'm planning a trip home to Bartlesville in the summer to do some personal research HOPEFULY I will get a chance to attend a meeting or two with some fellow freedman or woman..... Marland