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Re: Creek Citizenship Case [reposting thread]
In Response To: Creek Citizenship Case ()

Reposting the thread.
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Re: Creek Citizenship Case?hopoyv fvccetv -- Monday, 3 October 2005, at 2:40 p.m.
Mr Solomon, ?You mention the Dawes rolls, the Muscogee Constitution never mention the word 'Dawes Rolls'. ?Article III states in the various sections, 'showing degree of Muscogee (Creek) blood based upon the final rolls prepared pursuant to the Act of April 26, 1906 (34 Stat. 137), and other evidence, as prescribed by ordinance.' ?However everyone seems to agree that constitution is refering to the Dawes rolls.
fvccetv

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Re: Creek Citizenship Case?hopoyv fvccetv -- Monday, 3 October 2005, at 10:22 p.m.
Mr. Solomon, ?Another point that should be added is the definition of 'Final Rolls as provided by the Act of April 26, 1906 (34 Stat. 137)'. As it relates to the Muscogee Constitution.
Means the entire set of rolls established pursuant to that Act, including the final rolls of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, and the tribes of Seminole, Cherokees, Choctaws and Chickasaws, in order to provide for the enrollment of any Muscogee (Creek) Indian by blood descended from a Muscogee (Creek) Indian by blood enrolled in another tribe in 1906 for the purpose of selecting lands.
These are the other rolls..... ?Under the old codes for the citizenship board you will fine this under Section 3006. ?Name of roll; ?1814 Creek Roll (Jackson Treaty Roll) ?1832 Creek Roll (Removal Treaty) ?1836-38 Creek Emigration Lists & Muster Rolls ?1834-1836 Creek Removal Rolls & Lands Registers ?1857 Creek Old Settlier Rolls ?1857 Upper & Lower Creek Per Capita Rolls ?1858 Creek Per Capita Rolls ?1869-70 Loyal Creek Claim Roll ?1867 Creek Annuity Payroll ?1870 Creek Orphan Roll ?1885-1896 Creek Citizenship Commission ?1890 Creek Roll (Tribal) ?1891 Creek Roll and Supplement ?Authenticated Index of 1890 Creek Roll ?1895 Creek Roll Tribal ?Authenticated Index of 1895 Creek Roll ?1904 Creek Self Emigrant Roll

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Re: Creek Citizenship Case?Norma Edwards -- Tuesday, 4 October 2005, at 10:35 a.m.
I saw this post and I understand that the final rolls pertains to the Act of April 26, 1906 and not the Dawes rolls. But, are you saying that the Dawes rolls DID NOT come about because of the previous rolls stated in the Act of 1906? Please explain.
Also, I understand you to mean Creek by blood and NOT freedmen when the final rolls are used for considering citizenship is this correct?
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Re: Creek Citizenship Case?hopoyv fvccetv -- Tuesday, 4 October 2005, at 1:30 p.m.
more to read, pretaining to the old codes.

Section 3006 ?B. In all cases where the rolls provided pursuant to the Act of April 26, 1906 (34 Stat.137) provide NO Degree of the Indian Blood or provide conflicting degrees for the direct ancestor and one or more of that ancestor's immediate family, and the applicant has proven descent:
a: The applicant shall file a letter at the Office of the Citizenship Board requesting technical assistance in the determination of their Degree of Muscogee (Creek) Indian Blood.
b: The applicant shall provide any and all information he or she has or can obtain about their direct ancestor and the immediate family of the ancestor and may thereafter submit any new information at any time to the Citizenship Board.
c: The applicant shall be granted technical assistance by the staff of the Citizenship Board in the following manner:
1. All relevant records shall be searched;
2. Two copies shall be made of each relevant document identified as applicable;
3. All copies shall be certified;
4. One copy shall be held in the applicants file in the Citizenship Board offices; and
5. One copy shall be delivered to the applicant.
C. After receipt of relevant documents, the applicant shall have the right to request a hearing by the Citizenship Board to determine their degree of Muscogee (Creek) Indian Blood.
D. The hearing shall be an evidentiary proceeding where the burden of proof shall be upon the applicant to establish by a preponderance of evidence of their degree of Muscogee (Creek) Indian blood. All certified copies of records in the applicant file shall automatically be introduced as evidence by the Chairman. The applicant and any member of the Citizenship Board may subpoena witnesses. The Board shall then determine the Degree of Muscogee (Creek) Indian Blood.
E. Expenditures of funds to purchase the Tribal Rolls above are hereby authorized for the 1980 and 1981 Fiscal Years subject to appropriation by the National Council to the Citizenship Board.
hopoyv fvccetv
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