lisa,,,,,was not saying you are wrong only i have not heard this......since i was born here was reared here and once again live here i know personality some of the ones you have only read about.......i know cub and all or most of his siblings. we all went to school together. no quarrel here....there are many of us, i am sure some one will explainor coment on this. maybe they are will to tell where this history is written. as you may have learned the oral accounts we all learned from our foreparents will not stand now.only asked about where you are on these trees.