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Re: hymel/raphael family,st james parish,louisiana

I've researched some families in St. James. My godchild is from Vacherie - found her paternal and maternal ancestors in Elton's book and in the Diocese records (Oubre).
I understand your frustration with the names and dates. All I can say is take one step at a time. Work from the known - and one known is evidently a death date. If you have an obit and a death date, and you are sure the subject of the obit is your ancestor, order the actual Death Record!
You can start with this one and continue with Pierre Raphael's DC.

There is a Pierre Raphoel (sp) that died on the 26th of February, 1939 in St. James parish. He was 68 Years old, putting the approximate birth year at 1870. It's the only one I see and may be your ancestor. Hopefully, the informant would have known and reported the parents' names.

Hint: If you can get to the LA State Archives in Baton Rouge, you can view the actual death records on microfilm - and make copies for about $.50. They also have the LA Death Index on microfilm - by surname and death dates. Unfortunately, only death records before 1952 are available on microfilm (a 50 year cutoff). Regardless, it's a better way to research death records (see before you buy). They are even open on weekends!

I looked at some St. John the Baptist parish marriage records up to 1900 - dups of some of the Church records:

1. Felicia Hymel married Purre (Pierre) Raphael 4 JAN 1898. Check the Church records for a listing of parents. I believe this could help. You can call the Archives in Baton Rouge for info on how to order a copy of the marriage / death record for Felicia, since this volume is not yet available.

2. Jean Severin Hymel m. Marie Elise TREGRE 14 Oct 1858. Parents' info is in the Diocese records.

St. James marriages:

1. Amelie Hymel (Valsin, dec'd and Amelia LAURENT) married Omer Hymel (Severin, dec'd and Emetile LOUP) 20 JUN 1890.

2. Benjamin Hymel (Severin, dec'd and Emelyte LOUP) married Felicie TREGRE (Prudent & Elvina LAURENT) 10 Oct 1890.

3. Leopold Sidney Hymel (Benjamin & Felicie TREGRE) bn --- 1891.

4. Adolph Hymel, of St. Jean the Baptiste parish (Severin Hymel, Dec'd & Marie Elise TREGRE) m. 19 JUL 1888 Lydia BORNE, of St. Jean the Baptist parish.

5. Francoise Amanda Hymel, of St. Jean the Baptist parish (Severin, dec'd. & Marie Eliza TREGRE) m. 15 MAY 1888 Damas Dalferese Schexnayder, of St. Jean the Baptist parish.

One death record (St. James):
Omer Joseph Hymel, died: 3rd JAN 1939. Vol:3, Cert: 1130. The Race says 'White or Mexican', but you need to look at the actual record to determine the accuracy of the indexed version.

One difficulty is that there are so many documented (white) Hymels and TREGRE's. Another difficulty is in given names and (mis)spellings. Severin becomes Jean Severin. Benjamin becomes Charles Benjamin. There is also the 'mis-labeling' - which usually occured when someone that was not from the area did the census. Then there are those that were not counted in the US Population Census. Elton mentions this for the 1870 census, but it's a good bet that it happened every census year. There were some pretty remote areas in Back Vacherie!

Found an Omer Hymel:
Louisiana St. James Lutcher ED# 47
Omer M W 58 M and wife Amelie (51 F W) with 7 children.

Found Benjamin HEYMEL:
Louisiana St. James Ward 7 Page: 285
Benjamin (33 M W) and wife Felicie (W F 27) married 10 years with 5 children: Sidney (7), Severin (7), Elvira? (5), and two others.

When searching, think 'neighborhoods'. Elton's book described the neighborhoods. When you find one family member, look around for others 'near by'. You may have to do a page by page search.

I will continue to look at the records I have access to for your Tregre and Hymel connections. You may have to research both families in order to understand your (possible) connection to each family surname. Even 'no connection' will help eliminate some families from the mix. [That's a good thing at times.]

later...


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