I tried the same explanation, but no one would listen (we've been calling them_____all our lives, and you expect us to change? or Why would I change now?)! I'm glad it worked for you! My second and third cousins have continued to call me their second and third cousins, because they weren't quite sure what we should call each other, so they just took my word for it!Of course these were people I just recently met, and not the people I've known all my life (who would not listen to me!).