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Re: THE FAR-FAR WEST
In Response To: Re: THE FAR-FAR WEST ()

What's interesting here is this afrocentrist desperation to prove the existence of some sort of black history in the Azores. My Greek American friends can tell you all about afrocentrists and their attempt at Africanizing Greek history. It's been brought up more than once during this discussion that the few historians who have studied the Azores including Robert Santos agree that most black slaves who made a stop in the Azores moved on to the Americas. A very important point to make here as well is that the Azores unlike the islands of Madeira and Canaries, the latter belonging to Spain, never had a sugar industry and therefore had no need to import any large number of slaves. Even so there is some "literature" falsely including the Azores in the group of sugar producing island groups. Misinformation about the Azores is not difficult to find. As to the subject of some Azoreans on Nantucket being considered non-white, it doesn't surprise me since no one in the U.S. in the 1800's darker than pink would be considered white. There are still folks (nordicists) who do not consider most southern europeans white. Even the Irish weren't considered white in America at one point for social and political reasons. Certainly Greeks, Italians weren't considered white and neither were the Portuguese but as as you can see by the source posted, many of the Azoreans were considered white which should give a hint as to the extent of their fair appearance (Meredith Vieira from the show The View who is 100% Azorean is a good example). Anyone with a mediterranean or southern European look with not be considerd white in America or Nantucket at that time. No one is denying the existence of dark Azoreans or Portuguese, a few ethnic Azoreans (Nelly Furtado for instance) even have a decidedly non-white look but they are not the majority by any means. One trip to the Azores will teach you more about this matter than any so called gene study you can dig up on the internet. I will have to stop here with this discussion since I will be away on a business trip. I also have nothing else to say about this. As I've said before most conversations regarding the Azores when involving race is usually erroneous since few historians have studied them, even less so non-historians.


18 Dec 2002 :: 14 Nov 2008
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