thanks mr. latour but, i have that info. trying to go backwards from john chivers(chavers,chavis) to see if he connects to north carolina. i am decs. of honore through his son joseph. side note according to thier will nan chavis is also the mother of one joachim esprit who marries step-sister delia gradenigo. honore,martin and marie were manumitted in 1833 opelousas by half brothers and sister who were product of laision with adelaide lemelle.