That is great! That explains why there is so much confusion over the place of marriage! The Mary Stevens of the Haddonfield Monthly Meeting would have been the daughter of Robert Stevens/Stephens who got married to a later wife at the same place. I really do not think, however, that these couples from PA and NJ are in any way connected to Andrew Redman and his wife, Mary, of Loudoun Co., VA. John Redman, son of Andrew and Mary, of Loudoun County was considered to be an Indian. If his father, Andrew, was the son of William Redman of VA, as I suspect, there would be no question where the Indian blood was from, as both William and his wife were of much Indian blood. Andrew named his first son "William", likely after his father. The elder William Redman had several other Grigsby grandchildren in the same area of Loudoun County. John Redman's daughter, Eleanor, married Enos Monteith, whose family had lived in Loudoun for a number of years. Enos was a cousin to John Redman in several ways, if John's grandfather was William Redman! That would explain why Enos was associated with his wife, Eleanor, as he went back to Loudoun County from Stafford County, where his family had moved in the 1790s, and brought Eleanor back to Stafford. I think that people have just seen an Andrew Redman and a Mary in other states and have been jumping to conclusions. It is my guess that Mary, wife of Andrew Redman, of Loudoun County, was a relative of the Israel Thompson family, which would explain the very close association that John Redman had with that family. Your discovery of the other Andrew Redman and Mary couple in NJ helps to show that there was likely still another in VA. There is nothing in the VA records that I have seen which indicates that Andrew and Mary came to the Loudoun County area from another state. In fact, everything that I have seen supports that Andrew's family had been in the VA area for generations. Thanks so much for your great find.