Eric Thomas is Host [Chat was in process when log started] [E.T.(CA)] Hi VKayN! [STG] nothing new and exciting Art [Pete] Hey VKayN [STG] hi VKN [Art (Ohio)] E.T., there was only 1 AA youngster in those classes, all white kids!! [E.T.(CA)] Wow!! V.] Greetings to one and all also to each and every one LOL [Art (Ohio)] Hi VKN V.] That is a great post Art about the youth and their web page. [Pete] Art that is really something. Only 1 A-A ? WOW!! [Art (Ohio)] His GG-grandfather is buried in the Cemetery there at Washington CH. [Pete] So all the rest went to help him research? [Art (Ohio)] The white kids "jumped" on the project to honor a classmate (Stephen Jackson) an honor roll student and a tremendous athlete [Pete] If only "US'N" folx would help each other out so good! [Pete] They're to be commended. V.] I am signed on but working on getting some aging chat logs on line. Hope y'all saw those done on yesterday? [Art (Ohio)] I'll post something later on how they "refurbished" Colored Soliders Row with new markers, landscaping and the works (burial site with 35 new W markers) [Art (Ohio)] CW Markers V.] So not to worry if I do not answer or something. [Pete] STG what's the latest on the family of the lil girl whose grave came up missing when the family tried to have it exhumed and moved? V.] Art that sounds great! [E.T.(CA)] Art, this brings a question to mind...Is there a law or anything that dictates how long a public cemetery must continue operations after their last burial...do you know? [Pete] That is fantastic, Art !! [STG] huh? [Art (Ohio)] No I don't E.T. Here in Ohio I think the Township is responsible for the upkeep of Cemeteries regardless of activity. Not heavily enforced, unless someone brings it to their attention. [E.T.(CA)] STG, a few years ago, the family of the four little girls who were killed in the church bombing wanted to move the childs body. The body was not there. [E.T.(CA)] I see, Art. [STG] oh yea [STG] I haven't seen anything on that lately, not sure if it was mentioned in the trial articles either [Pete] okay. Thanx [STG] i'll see what i can find [Pete] I'd appreciate htat, STG (c: [Art (Ohio)] gotta run y'all...getting ready for some surgery tomorrow,,,be out of the loop for about a week. [Art (Ohio)] Y'all take care [STG] bye Art [E.T.(CA)] Wishing you the best, Art! [Art (Ohio)] Thanks [STG] Pete, it looks like it wasn't solved [Pete] STG it probably won't be,either. I was just wondering if any further has been done. [STG] well the cemetery had been abandoned for 20 years when they discovered the grave empty --1998 [Pete] Strange thing is teh family said they visited often and left flowers and such. [E.T.(CA)] That's one of the reasons I was asking Art about how that type of thing is managed. [STG] her grave was originally marked with a wooden marker and was replaced with a marble one in 1990 [Pete] E.T. it's usually a local law or ordinance that protects the cememteries. [STG] they assumed the marker was in the right place, no one seemed to remember, they were supposed to check with the funeral home as of 98 [Pete] ........but isnt' teh funeral home out of business? Has been for many years? [E.T.(CA)] My sister and I were just discussing (this morning) about the loss of a dear family friend today, and we were wondering about the laws that protect cemeteries after the last burial. [Pete] It's all local, E.T. [E.T.(CA)] I see. V.] As a general practice, primarily AfriAm cemeteries tend to be neglected. [Pete] Some states have the counties enforcing and the others have the cities enforcing. V.] The place where the 4 little girls are buried became like a garbage dump. [Pete] Yes, VKayN. Ours are usually privately owned and kept. [E.T.(CA)] It seems to me, that there must be some type of regulation for cemeteries, because they obviously can't stay around forever. V.] Some local White man in B'Ham was appalled at the scene and started a campaign to have the place cleaned. [Pete] In most cases there is for recording of the locxations. [Pete] Other than that? Nothing. [E.T.(CA)] Case in point....the African American burial site that was unearthed in New York City. V.] In general ET cemeteries are hallowed ground and protected by laws on books at the State level. [Pete] Same as the one in Dallas! [E.T.(CA)] Okay, VK, but, for how long? V.] [Developers not withstanding] V.] There is no time limit, ST [Pete] In OK and TX and some other states I believe there are laws for recording locations but not for upkeep and maitenance. [E.T.(CA)] I just think that there must (or should) be some form of regulation and standardization?! V.] Too often when burial grounds are neglected and overgrown and graves have shrunk then people forget it is there if they ever remembered it in the first place, [Pete] E.T. a state level compact between all states would be good, for that purpose. V.] Hey Y'all sounds like a good project to get involved with. [STG] Greenwood Cemetery was supposedly being maintained by the city of B'ham from 97-???? [Pete] B'ham said they ain't have nothing to do with it, didn't they?? V.] I know that Mike Emery in Texas has such a project going to preserve cemeterioes I think it may be a nationwide effort. [Pete] Should be.............! [STG] in 94 they did, they couldn't find the "owners" [STG] supposedly in the summer of 97 they funded a cleanup and then put in 50,000 for the next year's maintenance [STG] after that I don't know [Pete] They just disappeared? [E.T.(CA)] Cemeteries in suburban and rural areas are not inpacted the way cemeteries in urban areas are by 'urban-sprall'! I'm from the city, remember? [Pete] E.T. look at the monstrosity down in GA where the owner wass dumping bodies instead of doing what the familes wanted. [E.T.(CA)] I understand, Pete. But wasn't that a crematorium? [Pete] The only thing they could charge him with was stealing the bodies. [Pete] Same difference??? [STG] this was a "private" cemetery and it was abandoned and it happens throughout this state and others [E.T.(CA)] Well, maybe....but in cremation, the family can have more control over the remains. [Pete] But there were no laws other than that one which applied. [E.T.(CA)] STG, that's why I was asking about cemeteries that are public. Not just belonging to a church, family, etc. [Pete] That's what I say, STG. What laws are there in those cases. [STG] this article states that most states have laws on cemetery maintenance and have an endowment care fund since the 40's that mandate that a percentage of plot sales go toward upkeep [Pete] "Most states" hunh? Wonder which ones. [E.T.(CA)] STG, that's where I'm going with this....Do they mention any length of time after the last burial? [STG] :) [STG] not in this article E.T. [E.T.(CA)] I see. [Pete] E.T. that's a real good point for researching. [STG] there are plenty around here too, my grandmother I believe is in an inaccessible cemetery, (i've never been there) [E.T.(CA)] You're elected, Pete!! :=) [Pete] I have a friend, here, who is a para-legal. I think I'll ask. [Pete] E.T. !!! That does NOT preclude YOUR investment, either!!! [E.T.(CA)] Duhhhh....Huh?! :=) [Pete] C'mon back in here!! You aint' gittin outta this!! (c: [E.T.(CA)] I haven't even done any family research in quite some time, Pete. I'm still trying to collect my thoughts. [Pete] okay,but, this'll help you get ti all together. Use Google and see what you come up with. [Pete] We'll nose-dive this thing and come up with something,hunh [Pete] STG you have anything around there that might help? [E.T.(CA)] Pete, if I did a 'Google' search on all of the topics that I have an interest in, I'd be on the computer 47 hours a day, everyday, for the next 8 years. [Pete] sTOP, E.T. !!!! LMBO!! [Pete] VKayN I tried to get it stirred! (c: [E.T.(CA)] Like so many others, I just 'thought' I'd 'put it out there' to see if anyone had already done the research and had the answers. :=) [Pete] Unh hunh and you aint' trapping ME either!!! ROFL [E.T.(CA)] Well, okay, but I tried. (and I may try again later with a different approach). :=) [Pete] Like my folx used ta say: "I got eyes in the back of my head" [STG] help what? i'm lost [E.T.(CA)] Actually, with the research skills of STG in mind, I thought that this was an opportune time to present the issue. [Pete] AGREED!! [STG] whatcha talking about [E.T.(CA)] (STG's been working, and missing some of the dialog) [Pete] Bet she's reading to catch up, whacha bet [Pete] I knew it!! LOLOL [STG] what am I researching? [STG] and E.T. you're already online 47 hours a day [E.T.(CA)] You've already done it, STG.! [Pete] U GO, STG!!!!
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