[Wed 13 Mar 9:pm EST 2002] Geder (Jeter in CA)> [Our Topic tonight is 'Every Tongue Got to Confess' - Negro Folk tales from the Gulf States, by Zora Neale Hurston] Geder (Jeter in CA)> [Also...'Redemption Song' by Bertice Berry is the Afrigeneas Book Club selection for April.] Geder (Jeter in CA)> [And all things Genealogical!...wherever it leads us!] Geder (Jeter in CA)> We'll be informal since there's so few here... k wyer lane> I haven't read Berry's book but read Hurston's awhile ago. k wyer lane> Why did you choose the books? Geder (Jeter in CA)> Hopefully, Alta will be here after 6:30pm pacific... k wyer lane> I forget that you are in CA...I still think of you as a ny person Geder (Jeter in CA)> I chose the Hurston book for its folkloric qualities... k wyer lane> Has any film been done on her? Documentary? Geder (Jeter in CA)> ..the book can contain clues for researchers... Geder (Jeter in CA)> I haven't seen any film on her as yet.. Geder (Jeter in CA)> Good Evening Alta! AltaCann(MD)> ::::::::: entering with skid marks! AltaCann(MD)> Greetings, all Geder (Jeter in CA)> lol, slow down lady....small gathering here tonight... k wyer lane> Hi Alta! AltaCann(MD)> Hello, K Wyer! AltaCann(MD)> quality not quantity k wyer lane> Hi I was just asking George about Zora's life. I read that she was criticized by Richard Wright Geder (Jeter in CA)> K, to answer your earlier Q, Zora was born in Notsaluga (sp), Alabama in 1891.. > Notasulga Geder (Jeter in CA)> Thanks, STG! k wyer lane> As being too "folksy" and not serious enough or angry enough > yw AltaCann(MD)> It seems that Z was a bit eccentric yet prolific in nature AltaCann(MD)> She left some serious legacies at Howard Univ. during her short stint there and the most importnat one remains today Geder (Jeter in CA)> Good evening RCS RCS> good evening all k wyer lane> Hello!Geder (Jeter in CA)> [Our Topic tonight is 'Every Tongue Got to Confess' - Negro Folk tales from the Gulf States, by Zora Neale Hurston] Geder (Jeter in CA)> [Also...'Redemption Song' by Bertice Berry is the Afrigeneas Book Club selection for April.] Geder (Jeter in CA)> [And all things Genealogical!...wherever it leads us!] Geder (Jeter in CA)> We'll be informal since there's so few here... k wyer lane> I haven't read Berry's book but read Hurston's awhile ago. k wyer lane> Why did you choose the books? Geder (Jeter in CA)> Hopefully, Alta will be here after 6:30pm pacific... k wyer lane> I forget that you are in CA...I still think of you as a ny person Geder (Jeter in CA)> I chose the Hurston book for its folkloric qualities... k wyer lane> Has any film been done on her? Documentary? Geder (Jeter in CA)> ..the book can contain clues for researchers... Geder (Jeter in CA)> I haven't seen any film on her as yet.. Geder (Jeter in CA)> Good Evening Alta! AltaCann(MD)> ::::::::: entering with skid marks! AltaCann(MD)> Greetings, all Geder (Jeter in CA)> lol, slow down lady....small gathering here tonight... k wyer lane> Hi Alta! AltaCann(MD)> Hello, K Wyer! AltaCann(MD)> quality not quantity k wyer lane> Hi I was just asking George about Zora's life. I read that she was criticized by Richard Wright Geder (Jeter in CA)> K, to answer your earlier Q, Zora was born in Notsaluga (sp), Alabama in 1891.. > Notasulga Geder (Jeter in CA)> Thanks, STG! k wyer lane> As being too "folksy" and not serious enough or angry enough > yw AltaCann(MD)> It seems that Z was a bit eccentric yet prolific in nature AltaCann(MD)> She left some serious legacies at Howard Univ. during her short stint there and the most importnat one remains today Geder (Jeter in CA)> Good evening RCS RCS> good evening all k wyer lane> Hello! AltaCann(MD)> She was responsible for naming the student newspaper "The Hilltop!" which yet bears the name and was recently voted manon the best of all college student newspapers. AltaCann(MD)> manon=among AltaCann(MD)> Hody, Richard AltaCann(MD)> Howdy RCS> Hody to you too AltaCann(MD)> LOL AltaCann(MD)> K Wyer, I suspect that some of Z'z criticism stemmed from her gender, as these men were quite unkind to both Z and Dorothy West AltaCann(MD)> Both excellent writers though their styles varied greatly k wyer lane> Yes that is what I have read...but there was so little space for black writers...and men dominated the black literary world....so AltaCann(MD)> Their common thread was the tenancity and fierceness of thier nature ... k wyer lane> that is no excuse. I remember the Richard Wright Jimmy Baldwin feud too RCS> And ZORA wasn't city enough RCS> and addressing the black struggle issues AltaCann(MD)> and probably not bourgie enough either RCS> rather she was celebrating black culture as she found it RCS> in the rural south Geder (It's me in CA> My apologies, I got dropped by earthlink.... RCS> without dwelling on the black/white issues AltaCann(MD)> Not much different from major Black forces today ... discord among the race and the expectation that everyone should adher to the same agenda Geder (It's me in CA> The Harlem Renaisance writers didn't think she was edgy (sometimes read whiny) enough... AltaCann(MD)> I am trying to remember something that Alice Walker said about Z's difficulties ... but Walker spoke more from the womanist attitude versus the race conciousness AltaCann(MD)> also typical Walker AltaCann(MD)> Though, I do credit Walker for introducing me to Z Geder (It's me in CA> (STG or K; can you send me the first part of the chat?) k wyer lane> No you lost our Jorge AltaCann(MD)> ... and perhaps introducing many of us to Z by resurecting Z's works AltaCann(MD)> VKN .... my eyes tear with joy! RCS> They were stadard reading in 1970?! Geder (It's me in CA> Yes, and I think Z's autobiography will reveal much! veekayinn~Alabama> Joy! Joy! Geder (It's me in CA> Good evening VKN... k wyer lane> It was Walker that found her unmarked grave? k wyer lane> Hi Valencia veekayinn~Alabama> Kathleen!!!!!! veekayinn~Alabama> STG!!!!!!!! veekayinn~Alabama> RCS!!!!!!! RCS> JOY JOY! veekayinn~Alabama> Alta !!!!!!!! veekayinn~Alabama> Host Geder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > hi vkn > brb Geder (It's me in CA> Yes K, but Alice got the birth date incorrect... k wyer lane> Where does this book fit in with the rest of Zora's work? Better than Their Eyes were Watching God? AltaCann(MD)> Richard, I attended Howard in the early 70's and I do not remember discovering her until the early to mid 80s ... sadly, I do not remember HU AA literature classes requiri RCS> This book is not a book so much as a collectoin of notes/anecdotes Geder (It's me in CA> Well, these were recently discovered manuscripts.. AltaCann(MD)> requiring us to read Z AltaCann(MD)> ZNH RCS> SIU Carbondale had her in both women's lit and Black lit courses AltaCann(MD)> Yes, Geder, this particular selection was recently discovered AltaCann(MD)> That figures, Richard .... but why not HU where she lectured and assisted students with the newspaper Geder (It's me in CA> Z is the author of 8 books; four novels, three books of folklore, and her autobiography...plus essays and shorter works.. AltaCann(MD)> Given, I was not a literature major, but I wasgreat reader of any AA literature I could find AltaCann(MD)> IT took Alice Walker to introduce her to me and I floored when I learned of ZNH's HU contributions Geder (It's me in CA> Good evening Didessa (didn't see you come in) AltaCann(MD)> Just speculating, but I also suspect that her early use of the AA venacular was not well received at the Capstone RCS> It's many times easier to see the importance of someone at a distance didessa> hello didessa> just watching RCS> and we're going to watch back! RCS> and we ARE waiting for the AMOS report from STG AltaCann(MD)> RCS, you also do not know HU .... great school but sometimes contemptous to those not of the bourgie mind thought > keep waiting Richard :) RCS> He's calling to you > no he isn't RCS> I've heard that about HOWARD AltaCann(MD)> I graduated from HU and worked there .... quite an interesting creature! :) RCS> kids from St Louis regularly go on tours of the historical black colleges AltaCann(MD)> However, I do attribute my finer points to the experience RCS> so we get SOME news AltaCann(MD)> I can identify that HU arrogance a mile away Geder (It's me in CA> lol at Alta! AltaCann(MD)> You can always tell a Howard Grad but you can't tell 'em much! Geder (It's me in CA> Alta, tell us about the Offline Book Club! AltaCann(MD)> The club got off to a great start, the second meeting was also well attended but a severe rainstorm hampered attendance last night AltaCann(MD)> Mostly, the member are new folks to genealogy, requiring the very basics AltaCann(MD)> We are planning a group visit to NARA AltaCann(MD)> Alice Sykes and I have attended all three meetings AltaCann(MD)> Alcie also located a distant cousing on AfriGeneas, who lives nearby and brought her to the last meeting didessa> goodnight k wyer lane> So Alta...what does the group want to know? what is the number one thing that is brought up? AltaCann(MD)> We are still feeling our way through the process Geder (It's me in CA> Fantastic;....and goodnight Didessa AltaCann(MD)> They all want the African ancestor AltaCann(MD)> I should say the first African ancestor k wyer lane> interesting and nothing in between? Geder (It's me in CA> What kind of in-store support is B&N giving? AltaCann(MD)> What they needed was to understand the basics and how to trace back AltaCann(MD)> Tremendous support .... large posters annoucing the meetings a week or two out and monthly recognition in the instore events newsletter AltaCann(MD)> Also, we will be implementing a book discussion with a prominent author but it will take planning AltaCann(MD)> We are both in the discovery phase of how to best proceed AltaCann(MD)> Mainly, they are grateful for the traffic Geder (It's me in CA> That's great! Is this something that can be easily duplicated nationally? With the Bowie store as the model? AltaCann(MD)> We have a wonderful space reserved for the club and are allowed to sip coffee and such AltaCann(MD)> I believe so, I have sent information to Lorretta Moore in Topeka, KS AltaCann(MD)> and I have had inquiries RCS> so publish a how-to newsletter AltaCann(MD)> They are also going to promote the Berry book and stock it to see if we can draw more folks Geder (It's me in CA> Kool! AltaCann(MD)> Great idea, RCS, I just need more of me and time, however, Alice Sykes is the official assistant RCS> is she of the Mississippi SYKES? AltaCann(MD)> She was my pinch hitter last month when my new job kicked in AltaCann(MD)> I am not certain VA and PA, I think AltaCann(MD)> She has been a Godsend RCS> there were a bunch in Monroe co, MS AltaCann(MD)> Hmmmm...I msut send her the transcript RCS> ministers and everything RCS> My Hales lived with one k wyer lane> guys, I have to run...great to chat with you all. RCS> goodnight k wyer lane> take care AltaCann(MD)> Wow, she is really seeking SYKES info ...I have a Hale collateral connection originating in VA AltaCann(MD)> Niters, K Geder (It's me in CA> Is there anything that the Family could or should do to bolster the Afrigeneas-B&N relationship? RCS> some connected LENOIRs grew up on the SYKEs plantation AltaCann(MD)> My goal is to get us a grant from their foundation as the relationship develps AltaCann(MD)> Geder, what I need are ideas and suggestions AltaCann(MD)> Ialso need to promote it better locally RCS> ideas as in books? promo ideas? or what? AltaCann(MD)> Promo ideas, specifically and potential authors for a special events AltaCann(MD)> I need all and any connections AltaCann(MD)> Yeah, I am outta her shortly AltaCann(MD)> here Geder (It's me in CA> Kool!, We're on it. RCS> HAve you contacted highschool/college instructors in the area? AltaCann(MD)> No, I have not ... great idea ... an HBCUis located here AltaCann(MD)> Bowie State University RCS> ALL the colleges Geder (It's me in CA> Let's try to contact Bertice Berry.....ya never know... RCS> or even grade schools and find Af-am childrens book authors AltaCann(MD)> and HU is just down the road piece with Catholic U, Georgetown, GWU, Trinity and UDC AltaCann(MD)> OK ... will get on it RCS> Can't hurt to mail out flyers to the English departments AltaCann(MD)> Thanks RCS, many great minds here AltaCann(MD)> I do want to maintain the genealogy focus RCS> Perhaps lesser known children's book writers would be more interested in the publicity AltaCann(MD)> Thanks for allof the great ideas RCS> SSo do a genealogy with/for children AltaCann(MD)> Wonderful! AltaCann(MD)> A good way to get them interested early RCS> give them blank 5 generation charts to fill out with "big mama" AltaCann(MD)> I am starting a genealogy club at my Metropolitan Police Boys and Girls Clubs in DC RCS> Boyscouts/ gives a badge AltaCann(MD)> This is really incredible AltaCann(MD)> Girl Scouts, too AltaCann(MD)> I especially like this one, makes them learn to research veekayinn~Alabama> ( ouch! did Geder get booted?) Geder> Sorry, I got dumped again AltaCann(MD)> builds a sense of pride AltaCann(MD)> I am logging Geder Geder> Thanks, Alta RCS> Julius HUNTER, a St Louis person has written a howto, as well as HONEY ISLAND RCS> He's a ST Louis broadcast journalist AltaCann(MD)> Thanks, RCS AltaCann(MD)> I must leave now AltaCann(MD)> Geder, I will send a log up to this point RCS> Honey Island is about finding his MS roots Geder> Thanks and blessings Alta! AltaCann(MD)> Great hanging with you folks tonight Geder> Kool! AltaCann(MD)> YVW veekayinn~Alabama> Niters Allta AltaCann(MD)> Richard, Thanks so much RCS> you are welcome anytime AltaCann(MD)> VKN ... great to see you here and know that you are seeing everything so well AltaCann(MD)> Geder, my son, my pride and joy! AltaCann(MD)> STG, one of the faithful Geder> Mom! you teach me well! AltaCann(MD)> okay, making one last copy tag and then gone from here AltaCann(MD)> Nite, all .... smooches! > nite Alta RCS> goodnight Geder> Folks, and that concludes this evening's chat (officially speaking) RCS> so is it time for the AMOS report? veekayinn~Alabama> I enjoyed the discussion. I too must bid farewell. RCS> goodnight Geder> Nite, VKN! veekayinn~Alabama> Niters to all!!!!!!!!!
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