3rdthawkins: hello Spivey
Spivey: Hi 3rdthawkins!
3rdthawkins: you're here bright and early
Spivey: Thanks for your help last night. I really appreciated it.
Spivey: I still have my doubts, though. LOL. I wish I could get that kind of help here 3rdthawkins. We used to be able to get help in the Tuesday Night chat sessions. Hi daviss!
3rdthawkins: I know Spivey, hello daviss
daviss: hello there you two! How's it going?
3rdthawkins: going good daviss
daviss: good to hear
Spivey: I have no comment. I am screwing up so royally, I am just mentally putting everything on hold and operating like a robot. I don't want to think much at this point.
daviss: hmmm Spivey does that mean your entire thought process or a faction or two?
Spivey: Entire process for right now daviss.
alt: hello daviss,3rdthawkins, & Spivey how y'all today?
3rdthawkins: hey alt, How did Ohio State do? :}
Spivey: Fine alt, how about yourself?
daviss: don't let it get you down Spivey
3rdthawkins: doing good alt :p
alt: I think they (OSU) lost to Wisconsin 3rdthawkins
daviss: alt, I am saving up a few coins to get my brothers DNA upgraded
3rdthawkins: yep, good game, huh, well, for Wisconsin
daviss: more markers
alt: oaky daviss, did he test with FTDNA?
3rdthawkins: wow, you can update your DNA :p :}
daviss: no with Ancestry but may move his over to FTDNA
Spivey: Hi Selma!
daviss: I should have gone there at first lol
Selma: Good Monday afternoon everyone...
daviss: hello Selma!
alt: yep 3rdthawkins, depends onhow many markers you started with and how deep youwant to get into the DNA process.
Selma: Thanks for the photo daviss..
alt: Hello Selma
3rdthawkins: ok alt
daviss: you are very welcome Selma! :o his plus all the men I had done started with 33 33 markers
alt: that's ususally enough to get a 'good feel' for matches daviss ... they say anything beyond 37 is just a 'refinement'.
daviss: oh really!
alt: yep .. and then you get into more specific testing within the DNA process on those markers.
daviss: when I was rich I sent in two brothers, my cousin, my grandson and my x hubby lol
alt: good stuff, but it is really a matter of how $$$$ you might want to invest for 'more recent' matches that's a nice mixture... could confirm matches to several lines daviss
daviss: thats what I was hoping but as I said earlier, I wish I had started with FTDNA. It seems like they are further along than Ancestry
alt: oh yes daviss, much further, DNA that's their business while ancestry is 'nibbling' around the edges of so many things.
daviss: Oh I did get one female cousin on ftdna
alt: okay daviss,
daviss: that would be my paternal 1st cousin. my fathers sister kid Did you all get anything good as far as your research this week-end or was it all sports for you all?
alt: which would give you your maternal lines for your father's DNA, right?
daviss: right! alt
alt: yep, I'm finding a need to make a trip to the Ohio Historical Society in Columbus... they have microfilm on AA newsppaers I'm interested in (Cleveland Gazette) in particular and also a Book on Wagon Train Lists to California in the 1850-1870's.
daviss: Are you looking for Reno in the book alt or Adams
alt: no, my 2nd great-grandfather who I've located in Sacramento in 1861 City Directories and his 1871 obit in Sacramento. Trying to determine how he got to CA aside from oral histories. William Adams
daviss: I wish you much success on finding him in those pages alt!
daviss: what about you 3rd and Spivey, anything good?
alt: h record for Wm. Adams death record
daviss: It would be great if you got a pic of that church alt
Spivey: The good thing, Davis, is that I'm now in correction mode. Each time I saved my PAF file, it would save to a different directory. I just discovered that this morning. So, I downloaded a GEDCOM from Ancestry and am starting from there in PAF. Good thing I updated both databases at the same time.
alt: I have a photo of the church somewhere daviss .. and his burial site in Sacramento.. he was re-interred in a 'mass grave' when they built a school where the orignal cemetery was located.
Spivey: Sorry, I meant to address that comment to daviss. Must be thinking of my ex whose name is David. LOL.
daviss: lol @ spivey mass grave, ouch!!
alt: yep, estimated that 5,000 folks are in this 'mass grave' http://tinyurl.com/33nsy7o
3rdthawkins: sorry daviss, got some good info from a family member I got in contact with a couple weeks ago. learned that my grandmother was living with my great grandmother during the WWII and was raised by her
AYWalton: Good afternoon, all.
Spivey: Hi AYWalton!
3rdthawkins: hello AY
daviss: how did you discover that spivey. Is that normal
alt: daviss, photos are from ET's friend in Sacramento.
AYWalton: Hello 3rd, alt, daviss, Ms. Selma, Spivey
alt: Hello AYWalton, how you?
3rdthawkins: how is E.T. doing alt? hello vkn
alt: Hear from him occasionally
daviss: that is some good news 3rd
vkn: Good afternoon each and all
3rdthawkins: of course, my great grandmother that raised her is actually her aunt by marriage
daviss: hello AYWalton and vkn!
Spivey: This has been going on since I got my new computer in May daviss. When the files were transferred, the PAF file ended up out of the FamilySearch database. So, each time I saved, I was saving to one or the other, PAF or FamilySearch.
3rdthawkins: I guess that's how and when my grandparents "met"
alt: ello vkn.. thanks (publicly) for your help with an AAGGMV chat room (((((vkn))))) LOL
AYWalton: how's it going, daviss?
vkn: oo oo alt lol
AYWalton: you Ohio folks gonna have meetings, alt?
alt: thinking about it AYWalton
daviss: 75 degrees great AYWalton and I went to the State Fair and got turkey legs lol
AYWalton: sounds nice, daviss.
daviss: of course I took a pain pill first before I did all that walking lol lol
alt: hmmmm, that's interesting Spivey, wonder ??????
vkn: awwww daviss lol
Spivey: It was my doing, alt. Not paying attention. My old computer automatically went right to the FamilySearch folder to save. This one did not, perhaps because of the two choices. So, I was doing the selecting.
daviss: I can see your frustration then Spivey
alt: what a grandmother won't do, huh daviss? LOL
daviss: yep alt for sure
Seventies Soulchild: Hello all!
Spivey: Hi Seventies Soulchild!
daviss: hi seventies soulchild
3rdthawkins: hello Seventies
alt: hello Seventies Soulchild
Seventies Soulchild: hi alt, 3rd, AYWalton, daviss, Selma Spivey & vkn I was supposed to go to the library on lunch today, but my co-worker's dad had heart failure over the weekend...
Spivey: Yep, daviss. Carelessness has been a bane to me in this aspect. I am usually much better at paying attention to details like that. I think so much information was coming at me in so short a period of time, I wasn't giving my entries the attention they needed.
vkn: oh dear how is he doing seventies
Selma: Afternoon AY, vkn and seventies
Seventies Soulchild: I don't know yet, she called and lft a msg
vkn: to u 2 selma
Seventies Soulchild: But her dad is 91 yrs old.
alt: wb Selma
vkn: ahhh long life
Seventies Soulchild: yep
Selma: Folks wait to call me at the last minute for info...LOL
alt: ain't that the way Selma LOL
Seventies Soulchild: I ended up going to the bookstore to get a card for her.
AYWalton: ok back. Howdy Ms. Selma! hello SoulChile.
Seventies Soulchild: alt and I had a good conversation about genealogical resources on Sunday.
alt: shhhh, don't tell'em Seventies Soulchild
Seventies Soulchild: lol
Selma: Too late alt..she let the cat outta the bag
Seventies Soulchild: google books is definitely a good search tool
3rdthawkins: yeah, it can be if not to find actual names on your ancestors, it is to find good information on places and people "related" to them
alt: Selma, don't you send me any more URL's for awhile.. that Chancery Record Index for VA has me 'bug-eyed' there are so many surnames in so many counties, whew LOL
daviss: I have heard where it has helped many folks find info
Seventies Soulchild: One of the issues I'd been having is that there seemed to be a lack of resources for county records in the counties I am researching in MS
Selma: They are still digitizing alt...you will be more than bug-eyed before it is over
3rdthawkins: there are a few books on and mentioning my grandfather's HS he attended i nthe lat 30s and early 40s, Immaculate Conception School in Charleston
Seventies Soulchild: Yet I found 4 colleges that have major collections on this one county.
alt: hehehehe @ Selma
daviss: same here seventies
3rdthawkins: trying to find a photo of him
Selma: Does it mean that you just have to go there to access this material seventies..or have someone check
3rdthawkins: the College he went to did not have any photos of him, and his job he worked in does not have him listed in their directories
vkn: In my legacy genealogy group had a speaker today who identified self Puerto Rican-Dominican who was most interesting and who [culturally] uses four surnames. Also said people [of Puerto Rican descent] born in New York are called Nuerican. Interesting presentation.
Seventies Soulchild: I can order copies of information like I did with the LSU records. So that makes it easier and some of the records are not at the state archives. They are mainly private records.
alt: that's what is becoming so useful... the collections housed in colleges & universites are now being digitized along with 'personla papers'.
Selma: That is the pretty much how it is with the colleges and universities here
Seventies Soulchild: vkn you should've asked him what a afroboriqua is....
alt: yes vkn, very intersting...
Selma: Nuerican...haven't heard that term before.
vkn: I will do a followup seventies lol
Seventies Soulchild: my co-worker is afroboriqua...
Selma: where is he/she from
alt: which means ? Seventies Soulchild
Seventies Soulchild: And its NewYorican... lol
vkn: Define that seventies
3rdthawkins: School Records are a good source
Seventies Soulchild: Most PRs also identify as boriqua
vkn: ahh ok
Seventies Soulchild: afroboriqua is a black PR
alt: okay thanks
3rdthawkins: really Seventies?
Seventies Soulchild: yes of course... we run this hemisphere... lol
3rdthawkins: I know someone who's dad is part black part PR and lives in NY actually he lives in Delaware
alt: My son's 'significant other' is Domincan
Selma: Like I like to remind folks...all those folks in those islands didn't get there on a Carnaval Cruise..singing Day-O
Seventies Soulchild: I'm talking about afroboriquas who are black from PR Like Schomberg
vkn: lol lol lol selma
AYWalton: I have heard NewYorican referred to several times.
alt: naw Selma LOL
AYWalton: meaning New York based, Puerto Rican.
Seventies Soulchild: lol Selma. Yes. The life of Marcus Garvey illustrates that perfectly.
AYWalton: SoulChile does Afroboriqua refer to those who were born in PR, but who now live in New York?
Selma: The islands and South/Central America got most of the slaves that came to this hemisphere
Seventies Soulchild: that's why you have blacks in Honduras who speak english & patois
AYWalton: that is true.
Seventies Soulchild: not spanish
AYWalton: and they also speak Gariofuna. (spelling?)
alt: and if there can be a 'worse', most of those from the caribbean & south america, their ancestors had it 'worse' than ours here in america... so I've read.
AYWalton: We have a friend of ours who is from Belize (Br. Honduras). She speaks Gariofuna fluently, which interestingly is a mixture of Yoruba and other languages.
Seventies Soulchild: Isn't that what they call themselves Garufina? Let me see if I can located this link about AfroLatinos
vkn: Alt my hearing is that they had it better
AYWalton: Her husband is Yoruba from Nigeria and he can understand a few words of her language and she can understand a few words in Yoruba.
alt: really vkn
AYWalton: Needless to say, they speak English in the household.
Seventies Soulchild: http://www.afrolatinos.tv/ I think that was on here. You've got to click 'say it in english'
alt: AYWalton, our President (AAGGMV) her father is Belize.
AYWalton: is that right?
vkn: Well by better meaning the families were not splintered and customs were continued etc
AYWalton: that's neat! and language was not completely lost.
Seventies Soulchild: yea I didn't know Belize had Caucasian people until I was 22! lol
Selma: It might have evolved into that vkn..but that is not how it started out
alt: okay vkn, I see
Seventies Soulchild: And don't forget the Blacks in Colombia who still speak some Angolan Garifunas are the Blue Fields people...
AYWalton: quite interesting, indeed. I have never heard of the Blue Fields people.
vkn: Explain Blue Fields seventies oops seventies is 'out to lunch'
AYWalton: A few links for Blue Fields in Nicaragua: http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90777/90852/7004692.html
vkn: thankee ayw
Seventies Soulchild: yes sorry... had to get something really quickly
alt: seems folks with African roots 'be all ovah da place' LOL
Seventies Soulchild: Yes alt, we run this hemisphere... too bad we don't recognize it!
vkn: lol like kudzu alt
Seventies Soulchild: But I do like that blacks in other countries are standing up for their heritage, culture and human rights!
Seventies Soulchild: That is truly encouraging.
alt: I wonder how many have ancestors from the 20th century, or even the altter part of the 19th century vs the 16th & 17th & 18th centuries.
Seventies Soulchild: One of my favorite flicks is Quilombo from the Miami Herald: http://www.miamiherald.com/multimedia/news/afrolatin/part3/racism.html http://www.miamiherald.com/multimedia/news/afrolatin/part3/racism.html
Selma: Death rate was extremely high in 1500's, 1600's alt
AYWalton: thanks for the links, Soulchile.
Seventies Soulchild: ok here is the video I was looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wrQHm5S504
alt: it seems that after importation of slaves become quasi-illegal and the immigration laws with their quotas came into play there was a greatly diminished influx into America with those of African heritage.
vkn: Selma perhaps you would give us a scheduled presentation at some point on 'seasoning' the enslaved in South America and the Carib I am currently learning LOTS about the migrating connections of France Haiti SC MD and LA
alt: nothing like the former European immigration and the 'forced' immigration of Africans thru slavery
Seventies Soulchild: How did that play out in Latin America? did they ever ban the importation of Africans for slavery? Or did they just end slavery?
Selma: You mean seasoning in Caribbean to send here to mainland British NA
vkn: Yes Selma
Selma: Actually just read an article that said it was not as high as people suppose..LOL..
Seventies Soulchild: lol that is funny Selma. Of course they are going to downplay the numbers. how many were tossed into the ocean? Or are they even counting them?
Selma: No not downplaying the numbers....said slave owners were not waiting for folks to be seasoned...would season them when they got here..
vkn: We would do a moderated session in the room on the left side of the screen Selma and perhaps we could begin the line up for other sessions to be launched about 15 January or there abouts
alt: I can imagine not Selma... the Caribbean 'occupation' was more mainland European than British. right .... the Danes , Dutch, German, French, etc.
Selma: The range for those Slaves who came to British NA..meaning here is anywhere from 400,000 to 800,000..with the rest going to South American and the islands
AYWalton: Howdy Ingrid_Doweary!
3rdthawkins: Hello Ingrid, how is it going?
alt: as was Africa, with Belgians, Italians, Portuguese, etc.
Ingrid_Doweary: Hey AY, Spivey, 3rd, Daviss, Selma, Seventies and Vkn.
Selma: AFternoon Ingrid
Ingrid_Doweary: Still researching 3rd. How's everyone?
Spivey: Fine Ingrid_Doweary how about yourself?
alt: Tolerable Ingrid_Doweary & you?
vkn: We are treading in South American waters Ingrid
Selma: Only tolerable alt? Anita didn't give you lunch yet?
alt: nope, she's late and I'm angry LOL lOL
Ingrid_Doweary: I'm doing the best I can.
Seventies Soulchild: lol watch it alt!
3rdthawkins: ok Ingrid, thx for the directory of my gm, learned that she was working as a clerk in the Dept. of Comm. I guess something else to lookup?
alt: okay Seventies Soulchild
Ingrid_Doweary: Yes 3rd. How about that. Yes indeed more records to research.
Seventies Soulchild: ok I've to go.. work awaits my return. Have a good day all!
Ingrid_Doweary: 3rd, have you seen the street views of the address on Google Maps?
vkn: Alva is standing by to present. Just gotta get those rooms configured. And will need a bit of testing so all willing to test raise ya hand ! witha a !
3rdthawkins: yes Ingrid, I was looking at it last nite
daviss: never ending research I see 3rd
alt: I'll 'lurk' if that's okay vkn LOL
Spivey: vkn, what are you talking about?
AYWalton: I have to step out, for a few, otherwise I would gladly test the system as well.
vkn: Thanx Ingrid
AYWalton: If I can come back online I will be happy to assist.
Selma: You mean right now vkn
vkn: okies AYW
AYWalton: Take care.
3rdthawkins: I had did a look searching for the house, it was built in 1945, so they could have been either the first or second to live in that house look--a little searching
daviss: when will you do the testing
vkn: No after 6PM say Wednesday
Selma: 6 PM EST
Ingrid_Doweary: After 6p.m. EST, this coming Wednesday?
alt: got it marked on the Calendar vkn , Wednesday 6:00 pm est
Selma: I will be available...just remind me.. LOL I have to run folks..have a great day
vkn: Testing for moderated chat spivey and in "The Learning Center" that is the series of room on the left side yes alt thanx
Spivey: I don't have any rooms on the left hand side of my screen vkn.
daviss: when you first come in spivey
vkn: Look up spivey and shift eyes to the left
daviss: Learning and conference center
3rdthawkins: you guys will really have to work with Spivey
vkn: You will see Learning and Conference Center
Spivey: My eyes have made a complete circuit vkn. Nothing.
daviss: look at the bar spivey in black
Spivey: Okay. It's hidden by the scroll bar. Thanks daviss.
daviss: welcome I am not sure about me vkn but I will try
vkn: okies daviss when is a good day for you
daviss: 3 pm here is kind of pushing it but like I said I will try
Spivey: That very top portion of the chat screen is hidden while I'm in the room daviss.
alt: if anyone is interested in AME research Toots & Lee have passed on some great URL's fro AME subject matter.
daviss: you cant see the extra room now spivey as being open
vkn: I saw that Alt have not taken a swing at it just yet but it sounds mighty good
Ingrid_Doweary: Same here, Alt. Thanks for the heads up.
daviss: when you first log on you will see both sections
alt: Ingrid_Doweary, are you originally from Joliet, IL? wb spivey
vkn: I saw footnote was highlighting the Chicago fire... is it possible that weuns might find some special detail in that history
daviss: did you check it out spivey
Spivey: Guess I won't be there vkn. I can't locate the room.
vkn: Maybe room is a misnomer
3rdthawkins: I wish I knew what denomination, if even, my grgrgr gf William Townsend belonged to alt, and how I can research him as a preacher. If he stayed in TX (Panola County) it might have been easy, but he moved to Indian Territory (Creek Nation) what later become Oklahoma (Muskogee). I don't know how to research there. and ……sure won't help
Spivey: Sorry everyone, but I am not finding the location.
vkn: I will send you a graphic spivey and you will say oh pshaw
Ingrid_Doweary: No, Alt. I was born and raised in Chicago.
alt: have you asked for help 3rdthawkins?
Spivey: Okay vkn. Thanks.
alt: okay Ingrid_Doweary, thanks
vkn: 3rdthawkins I would recommend posting to the forum and take it from there
3rdthawkins: ok alt what would be the best Forum?
alt: for me 3rdthawkins, I usually start with Gen/Hist and the discussion wil lead you to the correct Forum from there.
alt: If you don't already have an idea of which forum to post to
3rdthawkins: yeah, prob. would be a good idea
Spivey: Have a good day everyone. Time to do more data entering.
vkn: okies me too
Ingrid_Doweary: Take care folks.
alt: Gen/Hist and Surnames seem to be the most active, or read Forums
daviss: later spivey
3rdthawkins: are you getting up and going to Ingrid?
Ingrid_Doweary: Yes, the research takes time. Next time folks.
3rdthawkins: ok, have a good day
alt: well y'all, my turn to split... laters.
Ingrid_Doweary: U also.
daviss: ahhh shoot lol
3rdthawkins: well, I'll go to the boards and post
daviss: ok good luck