daviss: hello Spivey
Spivey: Hi daviss!
daviss: how was your yesterday?
Spivey: Great! As a matter of fact, I had something proven that I lived through, but could never find evidence of until yesterday. I am still in awe! A fellow researcher found it for me.
daviss: thats wonderful Spivey! Care to share?
Spivey: Let me get the URL. http://digitalcollections.fiu.edu/tequesta/files/1990/90_1_02.pdf NOW I can document that history. People used to think I was crazy when I spoke of growing up walled in.
daviss: lol was this in Fl
daviss: oh I see it now lol trying to read fast lol
Spivey: My family lived in the Liberty Square part I believe. I also believe, and have for years, that it was the Blacks in Liberty Square who dynamited the part of the wall where we lived.
daviss: keep out all you black folks
Spivey: Keep us in. I didn't know until reading this that the Black community was walled in. The whole community. I was young so had no idea of the extent of that wall.
daviss: Very interesting reading. look at that picture
Spivey: I never saw a shack. Where we lived it looked like the photo of the Carver Village housing.
daviss: Well Spivey looks like you have a real piece of history here. you know when we are young we don't notice things like that
Spivey: I searched for years daviss. It just goes to show that information will eventually turn up, so never give up.
daviss: I remember going over to cousins and spending the night. They had about 8 kids
Spivey: I think that the shacks must have been in a part of the area that I never visited.
daviss: I never realized that the house was only a 3 bedroom until I was grown and went back for a visit The rooms in that house were so tiny My first thought was how in the world did everyone fit
Spivey: I was talking to someone last night about how our perspectives change when we grow up.
daviss: We never gave it a thought as to where we were sleeping lol and they always had company
Spivey: Sounds about right.
daviss: I was telling a friend also when she commented about so many people dying I told her that our parents prolly thought the same thing but we were to young to know those things
daviss: its like a wheel within a wheel keeps on turning
Spivey: Yes. And eventually, everyone has his/her day.
AYWalton: Good afternoon all. Hello daviss, Spivey! hope you are both well today.
Spivey: Very and you?
daviss: I am fair, how about you?
AYWalton: doing well, thanks.
Spivey: daviss and I were just reminiscing. LOL.
AYWalton: I see.
daviss: The eyes of a child
AYWalton: good memories I hope.
Spivey: About how our perspectives of people and places change when we get older than we were when we first witnessed them. A house that seemed huge turns out to be a tiny shack, etc.
daviss: even as a teen lol a boyfriend then and the way he looks now
AYWalton: how the old downtown seemed to go on forever and it is only 2 blocks long. lol Greetings VKN!
Spivey: Through the eyes of a child is a good way of putting it daviss. Hi vkn and Selma.
AYWalton: Howdy Ms. Selma!!!
daviss: hello Selma!
vkn: Backat each of y'all
Spivey: Back atcha too vkn!
vkn: uh oh sounds like a wheel is turning
daviss: Spivey shared a link about a place in Fl where her family lived once upon a time
Spivey: Not in my brain. I'm working on it though.
daviss: It's good reading
Spivey: http://digitalcollections.fiu.edu/tequesta/files/1990/90_1_02.pdf I grew up in Liberty Square to give a frame of reference.
AYWalton: wb Selma!
Spivey: Welcome back Selma.
daviss: wb Selma
Spivey: I was thinking this looks like a thesis daviss.
vkn: Where in Florida Spivey
Selma: I gotta change computers to get to the link..
daviss: could be Spivey
Spivey: A location called Liberty City vkn. Liberty City, Miami, Dade County, Florida. The county is now called Miami-Dade County thanks to the influence of the Cuban imigre's.
vkn: ohhh ok Dade Now I recall that you were Miami and I know the Liberty City area well
Spivey: You do vkn? Wow.
AYWalton: Very interesting piece.
Spivey: NW 65th Street was my 'stomping' ground.
vkn: First visited Liberty City in 1948. Black fokes had sort o f a resort around the Bay of Miami. Similar to Fernandina
Spivey: The Bay of Miami? I never heard of it, but maybe that's where Black folks went fishing.
vkn: Butlers and Maids were considered "highest of society" in that era
Spivey: We went all over: Tampa, Opa Locka, Coral Gables. My mom was a maid. I lived on premises with her. Until my sisters joined us, then she got the apartment in Liberty City.
vkn: Mup de mups yall were!
Spivey: That's a new term for me.
Spivey: When my mother switched to day jobs, my sisters and I used to have to clean on the weekends for some of her customers. At least my sisters did. I was too young.
daviss: Now thats who would have had a story to tell.. Butlers and maids I bet they heard a lot
Spivey: I would imagine daviss! Flies on the wall.
daviss: and saw a lot lol
vkn: They were managers daviss
Spivey: I saw a lot. I saw the woman's two sons naked as jay birds. Didn't know what I was looking at and stood staring in awe. They were screaming to beat the band.
AYWalton: there is a good book about women who worked as maids in Washington DC. I have forgotten the title. I think a professor at Howard wrote it.
vkn: There is a book, Selma, about the Butlers and Maids in DC cannot recall title but is good reading.
Selma: I can't remember either vkn...
vkn: ahhhhh AYW great minds lol l
daviss: was that the one about up the down stairwell
Spivey: I saw one episode of The Real Housewives of DC.
daviss: or something like that
Selma: Maids and butlers and day workers heard and saw it all...
Spivey: Maybe I should watch it to learn something more about the goings on there.
Selma: Taxi Drivers
AYWalton: and how they were always tested for their honesty---when the woman of the house would put change under the sofa pillows.
daviss: yeah AYWalton for sure
AYWalton: and insist that they vacuum underneath. they knew they were being tested.
vkn: The biggest social event in Miami was the Butlers and Maids Ball. people would die for tickets
daviss: oh really vkn
Spivey: I never heard of it. Maybe my mother served there.
AYWalton: now that is interesting, vkn, I never heard about that. I bet it was big deal.
AYWalton: one has to think----they were probably the ones with the most steady work.
Selma: This was considered good jobs..depending on who you worked for
Spivey: AYWalton where I grew up the women were either maids or on social services. No in between.
AYWalton: what stories to tell.
Spivey: The professional Black people lived in their own enclave.
daviss: I had a 2nd cousin who was Alan Ladds maid. When he passed away he left her several houses
vkn: Also remember the "snow birds" were away for a major portion of the year and the Black fokes were in charge managing everything
Spivey: I found information on a Snow Bird KELSEY who died as an infant. I can't place him or her in my tree, but the name was interesting.
daviss: was that a real name or nickname Spivey
Spivey: Real daviss.
AYWalton: I thought the term snow birds referred to the white folks who owned the homes.
vkn: Daviss most of the Black population in Santa Barbara migrated from TX as Butlers and Maids to the wealthy peeps of Montecito.
Spivey: Maybe adapted from the 'snow birds' AYWalton talked about.
daviss: snow birds flock to Phx in the winter
Spivey: I thought maybe she or he was an albino, hence the name Snow Bird.
vkn: agreed AYW re snow bird definition
daviss: they love the idea of wearing shorts and short sleeve shirts lol
vkn: and they were 90 % Jewish AYW
Spivey: Aw heck. I just looked at the chatters' list. I am severely outnumbered.
daviss: only in color spivey but not in gender
Spivey: Oh, you're right. I wonder where alt is?
daviss: just say we are the rainbow coalition now :?
vkn: what means "severely" ???
Spivey: Has anyone heard from free lately?
Selma: Did you leave Florida as an adult Spivey?
vkn: I was wondering where free be
Spivey: No, Selma. I was just going into my teens. My mother and father reconciled and my mother moved us to New York where my father had already migrated.
AYWalton: maybe a busy day at the NC Archives today.
Selma: The change in weather musta been a shock
vkn: ahhhhh I am a bit slow now the color thing just dawned on me now I get it ... catch up vkn
Spivey: Busy days. I haven't seen her in a while. Yes vkn! Not even posting on Facebook.
daviss: oh really
vkn: Only had a small bowl of oatmeal so far today. Brain is starved.
AYWalton: lol, it took me a while, too, vkn!
Selma: I didn't figure it out until daviss said "color".... LOL
daviss: Am I good or what lol lol
Spivey: I'm going to sacrifice and spend on that CD daviss. It's gonna hurt because I just bought the Roots Anniversary Edition special.
Selma: Obviously you had your Wheaties today vicky
vkn: U B good
daviss: lol @ Selma
AYWalton: which CD Spivey? greetings, alt!
daviss: hi alt!
AYWalton: We wondered where you were.
Selma: Hi Alt...Anita got you working
Spivey: The one by Shamele Jordan AYWalton. Alt recommended her because he heard her presentation at a conference. Hi alt! Every time I wonder where you are, there you are! LOL.
AYWalton: oh you mean her presentation on CD, or has she produced a CD?
Spivey: I think the CD was produced by a historical society AYWalton. You have to buy it to get her presentation. alt was fortunate that he attended that conference.
alt: I was up in the 'old country' this morning Selma, just got back home.
Spivey: Where is the old country alt?
AYWalton: howdy 3rd
Spivey: Hi 3rdthawkins!
3rdthawkins: hey hey hey!!!! (my my bill cosby-fat albert voice)
alt: Piqua, Ohio Spivey, bout 40 miles from here.
vkn: AYW the author of the migration book will do a presentation in Atlanta this weekend I think it is a signing BUT there is a $10.00 fee which I am not understanding
Spivey: My odds have improved dramatically since alt and 3rdthawkins got here. Whew!
3rdthawkins: Hey-Hey-Hey (In my Dwayne Voice)
Spivey: A fee for a signing vkn?
alt: you were out numbered, huh Spivey
AYWalton: and then one has to purchase the book, too? Hmm........
Spivey: You betcha alt!
3rdthawkins: what odds is that Spivey?
Spivey: I was outnumbered 3rdthawkins.
Selma: Maybe it is being used as a fund raiser VKN..who is sponsoring?
vkn: 3rd that sounds like Willie Mays to me, right alt?
3rdthawkins: vkn Dwayne/Duane from What's Happening
AYWalton: say hey!!! I ama Willie Mays fan!
alt: you betcha vkn LOL
Selma: Wasn't there a biography of Willie Mays written recently
3rdthawkins: never heard Willie Mays say that we are talking about the Baseball player, Right?
Spivey: I haven't heard anything about it Selma.
vkn: Not sure selma but he be the hey hey hey kid
daviss: I have not seen a bio out re Mays.. would love to get it though
3rdthawkins: so that's way before my time, I always thought it was What's Happening and Fat Albert, that's all I know
3rdthawkins: don't punish me Spivey I was only born in 1979
Spivey: Way too much television watching 3rdthawkins.
alt: got my order in for a couple of T-shirts vkn... one each, black & white.
daviss: thanks Selma!
3rdthawkins: lol lol ROTFL (wish we had that icon)
vkn: YEAHHHHHH Alt
Spivey: Maybe that's where Bill Cosby came up with Fat Albert's signature line.
3rdthawkins: possibly but I have learned that a lot of stuff that I have heard in my lifetime (1979-Present) came waaay before I was born
alt: no kidding 3rdthawkins LOL
3rdthawkins: I watch old movies and they would say something, and I would be like, "They said that back then?".......Then I realize that's where people got it from
Spivey: Oh I was there for the great flood, 3rdthawkins. I musta been because a lot of history I know happened before I was born, or so I thought.
vkn: 3rdthawkins it is called "standing on the shoulders of..." lol
3rdthawkins: I learned that today in movie and television, it's just a copy of what's already been done for the first ime in the 20s 30s 40s 50s, etc. nothing is original today, and I don't like it
Spivey: You are original 3rdthawkins.
alt: visited the cemetery where our Adams 'progenitor', his wife, mother and a couple of children are buried during the Reunion weekend.... Markers dating form 1843, it was 'awesome'...
daviss: did you take pics alt?
Spivey: Human nature hasn't changed 3rdthawkins since Adam and Eve.
3rdthawkins: true Spivey
alt: yes I did daviss, mine didn't turn out that well, hopiing others got better shots and they will share.
Selma: I bet it was alt...
alt: I now have to do some reading to learn th significance of the symbols on the markers.
Selma: Oh there were symbols?
daviss: I bet those older ones had some remarkable symbols masons for sure alt
alt: an open bible, a baby deer, a weeping willow tree, and clasped hands
Selma: Don't you think they might have been typical of the time frame..when did they die?
alt: Selma, they even had death date and age in years, months & days. I'm sure that is it Selma.. time & place, etc.
vkn: Spivey was just watching the re broadcast of some of the Harlem bookfair and on the Religious writers panel there was a big discussion that EVE ( females) were EVil Ever blah blah blah all because of "the apple" bite in the garden. Was interesting
Spivey: Women continue to bear the blame for male misbehavior vkn. Who was the dog chasing in the alley? A cat. No one bothers to ask what the dog was doing in the alley in the first place.
vkn: bad bad spivey go to your room lol
alt: come on y'all Adam didn't eat the apple.
Spivey: He did take a bite alt.
AYWalton: have to step away. Have a great day everyone.
3rdthawkins: see, you start talking about the Bible, and you run AY off
alt: okay, I'm thru with it LOL
daviss: I just bought a bag of apples :?
vkn: and alt be an Adam but so do Spivey lol lol
Spivey: Now, 3rdthawkins, you're making an assumption.
3rdthawkins: Just saying Spivey :}
Spivey: LOL daviss.
3rdthawkins: lol daviss It really wasnt an apple.......but
vkn: chop chop chop daviss
daviss: lol @ vkn
vkn: My dentures say no to apples daviss they go with the bite lol lol
daviss: then there's sauce vkn lol
alt: me too vkn, gotta be 'sliced & diced' LOL
vkn: I know I know Also known as gumming it daviss
daviss: lol lol
alt: sliced, diced & soft too LOL
Spivey: I am trying to NOT pay attention here. I am eating croaker fish and will get a bone stuck in my throat if I keep laughing.
daviss: what is a croaker fish
Spivey: Delicious but has a LOT of bones daviss.
daviss: never heard of it is it like a Buffalo fish
vkn: Croaker is what southerners eat daviss they are one step above Mullett
Spivey: Better than whiting or porgies daviss.
Selma: What is Butter Fish
Spivey: Butter fish is too mild for me.
daviss: never heard of a butter fish either
Selma: I am partial to Flounder
daviss: flounder born with one eye
Selma: We use to eat butter fish...growing up in NY we would go to the fish market..they would pull the fish from the tank
Spivey: I am getting a fish lesson from the lady that cooks the fish for you. There are warm water fish and cold water fish. They had a problem getting whitings this summer because the water was too warm everywhere.
vkn: with only one eye selma
daviss: or are they two on one side and one moves to the other side as they mature
Selma: Think there are two eyes
vkn: Tilapia is the the big catch here with Cat Fish on the side
Spivey: Tilapia has been proven to be unhealthy for cholesterol levels vkn.
alt: I loves me some Catfish vkn
daviss: I love cat and Tilapia
Selma: Had Cat Fish when I lived in TN...I enjoyed it but it is not something I cook
vkn: Me to alt
daviss: and could use a mess of crappie and bluegill
Spivey: I used to like catfish until they started raising it on 'farms'.
daviss: with some smothered potatoes
3rdthawkins: Is it ironic that it's called CATfish, and fish is Cats favorite food???
vkn: That is the economic base in Mississippi Spivey. You gotta farm catfish to survive
Spivey: It's nasty vkn.
3rdthawkins: I wonder if Catfish, eats itself
daviss: its good to me spivey
3rdthawkins: *meow* *meow*
vkn: and crawdads
Spivey: Catfish have whiskers like a cat 3rdthawkins. That's where the name comes from
alt: dunno, but they pull some huge ones out of the Lakes up here.
3rdthawkins: yeah, I know Spivey, just wondering
Spivey: Crawdads are a waste of time.
daviss: when I lived in Texas I would go fishing almost daily
alt: really daviss, so you is just an old fashioned country girl?
daviss: not if you have as much as you want spivey. Louisiana style yummy
vkn: People in Albany GA luv craw daddies and cole slaw and plenty of tabasco
Spivey: I can't deal with the work for getting so little meat daviss.
daviss: I love to fish alt. dont know where I get it from unless it were from an Ancestor somewhere
Spivey: Cuisines here in America are so varied, I find. American cuisine that is.
Selma: Folks gotta run have a great day
Spivey: The first time I had barbecued pork served with cole slaw I thought I was in heaven. Texas dish.
alt: me too..might be out of the loop for a day or so... gonna have some angioplasty surgery done tomorrow.
daviss: Now you have me thinking of going to the store and getting some catfish
alt: laters y'all
daviss: oh really alt! take care of yourself
vkn: Oh dear alt all the best
Spivey: Bye alt. Take care and I hope it goes well for you.
alt: ty everyone
daviss: prayers out to you already alt
3rdthawkins: yeah, hope it goes well
vkn: Well winding down yall BTW when this room shuts down the lobby is always open just put some chairs in there and talk
Spivey: We probably made him hungry as well. Isn't this about the time he eats lunch?
daviss: yes I think so re alt
3rdthawkins: thx for telling us vkn
daviss: I think I will cruise the boards.. thx for sharing that piece spivey
3rdthawkins: you know daviss, you and vkn make AfriGeneas what it is
daviss: oh no not me 3rd
Spivey: What do you all think of this idea? My niece's mother in law just passed. I asked her daughter to talk to her grandfather and get family information from him
3rdthawkins: you have your part in it too daviss
Spivey: I figure he would like to talk about family seeing as how he just lost his wife. Am I on the right thinking track?
3rdthawkins: probably could give it a while?
daviss: How old is he Spivey
3rdthawkins: but it would be a great time to do it and talk about it
Spivey: In his early 70's daviss. Which is it 3rdthawkins?
3rdthawkins: the latter Spivey
Spivey: Okay, thanks.
3rdthawkins: especially since he's in his 80s 70s
Spivey: They were married for over 50 years. Married shortly after meeting.
daviss: He is more than likely a pillar of strength then Spivey.. That may do him some good but a little at a time he may open up more as time goes by
Spivey: Okay. Thanks. It will be a little at a time I imagine since my grand niece does not concentrate on any one thing for any length of time.
daviss: 'ok lol gotta run! bye
Spivey: Okay. Bye daviss.
3rdthawkins: bye daviss
Spivey: 3rd, shall I follow you?
Spivey: I am going to another chat now, L4K.
Spivey: Okay. See you when you get there.
Selma: Evening 3rd
3rdthawkins: hello Selma guess it will be a slow night???
Selma: Must be...I almost forgot myself Folks must still getting over the Labor Day festivities
3rdthawkins: must be hello Khathu
Khathu: hello 3rd and Selma
Selma: Evening Khathu Looks like folks are taking it easy this evening Khathu are you interested in getting information on that person who migrated to Norfolk VA
Khathu: yes i am
parkin244: Evening everyone
Khathu: The family was Guy and Laura Williams
Selma: A friend is coming to do some research at the Courthouse sometime in the next few weeks.. OK I am writing that down....did you check the city directories onine
Khathu: not yet....their daughters would probably be listed in the directories Estella Williams married John Nimmer
Selma: Do you know approximatley when
Khathu: Mamie Williams who married Louis Lumsden on 26 Jan 1918
parkin244: Evening Sadonya
Khathu: Ruth Williams and Johnnie Stines were married on 2 Feb 1918
Sadonya: hello 3rdthawkins parkin244 Selma Khathu
Selma: Evening Sadonya
parkin244: Nite all. I smell din-din
Selma: That was quick..LOL Dinner calls
3rdthawkins: din-din isn't calling, but the dishes are, don't feel like answering :}
Sadonya: any new finds this week Selma do you have all 3 VA slave birth books?
Selma: Yes..5 volumes..
Sadonya: oh my
Selma: Do you want a look up
Sadonya: when you get a chance would you look up a Robert Johnson mother Margaret
Selma: Hold on
Sadonya: was a slave of the Bayne's but thinking maybe was a Johnson slave at some point
Selma: This starts in 1853 Do you know what county
Sadonya: he was born after that I think 1859 or so let me check
Selma: 13 Robert Johson's listed....only 3 mother's listed...no Margaret Quite a few bayn, bayne,
Sadonya: thanks for looking was any of those Robert's born in 1859? oh wow Selma left while my eyes were turned
vkn: must be lonely up in here
Sadonya: hey VKN they have come and gone
vkn: i see long days these days
Selma: Good evening invno1 welcome to the Tuesday night chat
vkn: 3rd good work for Keli
Selma: Evening INgrid
Ingrid_Doweary: Hey 3rd, Sadonya, Selma, Vkn and Invno
invno1: Hi I am new here and thought I'd drop by to see how it worked
Sadonya: Selma were any of those Robert's born in 1859?
Selma: I thought Robert was the slave owner Sadonya These books are indexed alpha by Slave Owners..
Sadonya: no Washington Bayne in 1862 but not sure if he was the only slave owner of Robert Johnson Sr
Selma: Glad you came invno...what state and county are you researching I am checking Sadonya
invno1: I am in TN but researching Kentucky, Kansas and Arkansas so far
Sadonya: howdy Neighbor I am in TN also
invno1: the counties in kentucky are scott and franklin
Selma: Do you have a county Sadonya
3rdthawkins: hello Ingrid and invno1
invno1: Sadonya I am in Nashville to be specific. Hi to you neighbor
Sadonya: I am in Chattanooga how far back have you been able to go?
3rdthawkins: I use to live in Nashville, moved from there last year to Missouri
Selma: There is one Washington BAYNE, child Maria, mother not named; Jan 1, 1858; Westermoreland
invno1: Hey 3rd, I just left Kansas last week
AYWalton: Good evening all. I knew something was going on on Tuesday evenings. Just remembered. howdy 3rd, Ingrd, invno1, Sadonya, Ms Selma!
Sadonya: hey Angela
Selma: One other Bayne in Westmoreland…R.V. Bayne, child Louisa; mother not named; Sept 20, 1858..
invno1: I am researching "exodusters" who migrated to Nicodemus, KS back in 1877. I have a lot of information but having a hard time following my ancestors after they got there and beyond
Sadonya: did they move around a lot?
AYWalton: that is great, invno1.
3rdthawkins: sorry vkn just got scrolled up and saw your message, thx
AYWalton: I research the western frontier--though more Indian Territory than exodusters per se, but their history also interests me as well.
invno1: From KY all the way to California and in between. a few are found in El Paso
vkn: okies 3rd invno1 are you in touch with Electra Price of Oakland?
Ingrid_Doweary: Wow. Invno1! I have a favorite movie which plays out that plot-Posse(1003) directed by Mario Van Peoples. William Katz's book the The Black West discusses that particular migration pattern.
invno1: Awesome AyWalton! I have a ton of information and work with the historical society in Nicodemus
AYWalton: ahhh yes, great history in Nicodemus!! Angela Bates I believe is the major historian.
invno1: Electra Price? No..
Ingrid_Doweary: Oh that is awesome, Invno1!
invno1: Angela is my cousin!
AYWalton: oh wonderful!!!
AYWalton: I have admired her work to preserve Nicodemus for years!
Selma: First time I heard of Nicodemus was an article in Ebony magazine...long time ago..
Ingrid_Doweary: What was the article, Selma?
invno1: She is truly amazing and now we have a connection in Stamping Ground, KY where they are raising awareness to the connection to Kansas!
AYWalton: that's great!
vkn: Oops Electra has all of the data on migration descends
Selma: Ingrid it was over 30 years ago..think it was about Black towns
Ingrid_Doweary: Oh okay.
invno1: Forgive me but is Electra a website or person?
AYWalton: Electra Price is a person, invno1.
invno1: LOL, okay and how can he or she be reached? are we still on?
Selma: How many people migrated to Nicodemus in 1877 invono
AYWalton: I think that VKN might have her contact information, invon1.
invno1: approx 350 in the beginning
vkn: Send me your email invno1 to email@example.com and i will forward to Electra
invno1: Awesome! I will have to put you on my Tuesday night calendar so that I can join you guys. Have to cancel my Zumba class I guess.....
Selma: Tell us about the museum invno1...you have displays? and records?
AYWalton: are you currently in Kansas, invon1?
Sadonya: he is in TN
invno1: Museum in ks?
AYWalton: ahhh ok.
Selma: Oh you said you work with the historical society I was thinking museum
invno1: I should say I work with Angela long distance on some of our family projects. Training to be an interviewer to do oral hx projects.
AYWalton: that is wonderful, invno1!! are there still many(any) elder Nicodemus residents around?
vkn: Correction: Electra is a genealogist invno1 who has spent a number of years tracking migration families and their descends
invno1: Our cousin Ora Switzer died in Feb at 106 and was lucid up until the moment she died. Only 26 people actually in the township itself.
AYWalton: Any old buildings still stand now?
invno1: 2 or three and one dugout that remains intact I went to my first Emancipation Homecoming this year and was absolutely awed!!!!
Selma: It was held in Nichodemus
Selma: How many people came?
AYWalton: that is wonderful! is there a website for the homecoming?
Selma: Just so you know invno..we chat Mon thru Friday at Noon in the Lunchbunch room
invno1: because there was the death of Ora's son two weeks prior, a lot of people came for his funeral. So the crowd was estimated around 500 and usually about 1000
Selma: and Saturday evening at 9 PM and Sunday at 11AM..
invno1: that's a diff time to join you. I work in a hospital and am doing cases then:|
Selma: When the original group came in 1877, did they all come from one place (state, county)
invno1: The came from Tn, AL, KY and MS you can google nicodemus and find out more than the website can give you at this time. they are working on it. I will definetly join you again. I will say bye for now and nice to meet all of you! Happy hunting!!!
Selma: Glad you came..
Selma: Interesting history the exodusters
AYWalton: indeed and a very rich history! I really like that they are taking their history, embracing it, and telling their own stories!
Ingrid_Doweary: I guess I need to reframe from citing film titles and published text on such topics.
Selma: Don't understand Ingrid
Ingrid_Doweary: Apparently they are irrelevant to the discussion. Either Invno1 didn't see the comment or there was some other reason to not respond to the statements I made.
Selma: This was their first time in the room...I think she was just trying to get use to reading all the sentences
AYWalton: what was that, Ingrid?
Selma: She/he..not sure
AYWalton: I missed it. I suspect that their being new might have had something to do with it.
Ingrid_Doweary: I cited a movie, Posse and cited The Black West by William Katz.
AYWalton: I think I recall the film Posse or folks talking about it a few years ago.
Ingrid_Doweary: Both entities featured portrayals and discussions about Nicodemus, KS. recall=recalled
Selma: Posse is one I missed...
AYWalton: Katz has books with great images.
Ingrid_Doweary: The movie used a different name for the Blk township, but the history model was Nicodemus, KS. I discovered two history items from Katz
AYWalton: I can imagine that it was.
Ingrid_Doweary: Katz's text which were used in the film, Posse directed by Mario Van Peeble.
AYWalton: of course there were many black towns between KS and OK. Boley, being similar. what did you discover, Ingrid?
Ingrid_Doweary: A poem recited throughout the films was printed in Katz's book and a flyer about the town was also used. Here's the poem printed on another website, http://www.musicanet.org/robokopp/usa/wakenico.htm
AYWalton: thanks for posting that, Ingrid.
Selma: Jeez I have Katz's book Black West I really need to make a list
Ingrid_Doweary: Selma you'll see a period flyer on Nicodemus in the Black West.
Selma: I will have to go thru it again Great pictures
AYWalton: I am on Google Street View, walking through the town right now.
Selma: Isnt the internet a wonderful thing
AYWalton: I agree.
vkn: It is too much for moi selma
Selma: Me too vkn... LOL I am into information overload..
Ingrid_Doweary: If you have the paperback, the flyer "What Colored Citizens are doing for their elevation", is on page 169.
AYWalton: Well I had better run, folks. Have a great evening everyone! take care.
Ingrid_Doweary: Good nite
Selma: Yep found it
vkn: oopsie woopsie
Selma: Well Mizz Vee I am outta here too