2013-08-05 • Making Corrections
daviss: heyyy alt!
alt: hello daviss
daviss: how's it going?
alt: talking with irita on the phone
daviss: oh ok great, then I will be right back...Tell her hello and God bless for me
alt: no, don't go i can multi-task
daviss: lol I just need to grab a cup of coffee We sure miss here here in chat
Khathu: Hello alt and daviss
alt: hello Khathu hello Selma
Selma: Afternoon alt, daviss, and Khathu
daviss: Hi khathu and Selma
Khathu: Hello Selma
alt: talking with irita on the phone, she says hello to all.
daviss: Is Irita doing ok
Selma: Say Hi to her for me too
alt: she's getting ready for her stevens family reunion ,, the 107th
Khathu: I see that there are a lot of newbies on the forums these days
Selma: Appears to be Khathu
daviss: Alt is her son out of school now...man those yrs do fly by
alt: yeah wow!!
daviss: yes khathu and hopefully some came from those FB pages
Selma: Khathu..I see we both provided info for the Vessels researcher..will be interested in seeing what she does with it
alt: yeah, he's out of school in columbus, ohio
daviss: great alt I could not remember how much older he was than my gr daughter
Khathu: Exactly...I do a little more research and Joseph appears to be the father of her ancestor. He also had a brother named Lewis and both of their second wives were Harveys
alt: you guys are doing a great job of helping those folks on AfriGeneas!!!!
Selma: We try alt...LOL don't we all
Khathu: I decided not to provide her with the additional info. I figured (or hope) she would follow-up with the info I provided
Selma: We will see
alt: yeah Khathu, couldn't find anything and then y'all come up with all of that information ... and explanations to help straighten out her confusion
Khathu: Two David Vessels Clearly the one born in the 1880s can not be the father of someone born in the 1870s okay I think individuals think that this type of research can be done by just entering names into various databases or done without any type of analysis
alt: a pencil, some paper & a timeline would help in keeping the generations & namesakes squared away ..... old grumpy says LOL
daviss: thats the very reason why I believe that the influx of questions come around reunion time and that family tree makers don't realize what it takes
alt: good point daviss, reunion coming up and I want ALL of the family information to present
daviss: If the bug hits them after that then they will find out
alt: daviss, I didn't call yesterday because I think I've got the 23andme 'tools' figured out on the chromosome view, global resolution, etc. thingy
Khathu: i noticed that many completely ignore the question what records have you looked at so far
Selma: The Tuscaloosa researcher..my knowledge of Alabama is limited..but she should look at Thomas Oliver (colored) is also in same area..
daviss: ok alt
Khathu: if they would just answer that question it would help us better assist them
alt: true Khathu & they only reference 1 record and think they have it all
Selma: She says that Lewis/Louis Oliver is on 1866 census..I swear I didn't find Think I found a white one
Khathu: The Thomas Oliver researcher I couldn't help because I am unclear on what she is looking for
alt: a pet peeve of mine is when they say the records are 'wrong' simply because they are different from what they know, or have been told.
Selma: She has been a researcher for 3 years..in 1880 Louis/Lewis is a preacher, she knows the church and wrote, but has not gotten a reply
Khathu: Selma - unfortunately that is very common I think her research has been mostly online
alt: I saw an interesting one on Ancestry yesterday ... a correction as to race.. someone corrected the race to 'white' on a family in the index, but the actual image of the census record spells out BLK for the family.
alt: and the family is on a page full of white entries.. so they were obviously not white, or maybe even white looking, or they would have possibly been labeled mulatto, but this page says in bold wrting BLK
Selma: Does Ancestry have a blog..you should write and ask them why they changed it Did you look to see if you could find the family before and after to see how they were listed
daviss: hmmmm interesting alt
alt: no I didn't/haven't Selma
Selma: Well lets look..what the name? Gives us something to do.. LOL
alt: I don't even remember at the moment Selma, sorry
Selma: Jeez alt.. LOL
alt: I know LOL
alt: I think I was looking at Reno's in California.. Tres Pino, San Benito Co., CA and when the family became "white"
Selma: Well your homework assignment tonight is find the record
alt: Robert Henry Reno was Blk in Yolo Co. CA in 1870 and by 1900 his son, Robert Arthur Reno was white.
Selma: I thought the point of Ancestry was to transcribe what is written in the actual record
alt: and Robert Henry Reno in Oakland, CA in 1910-1920 is identified as white in the index, but blk on the images.
daviss: ok back, sorry
alt: oops 1900-1910, not 1910-1920
Khathu: Oakland, CA my hometown
Selma: Was it originally indexed as black..then changed..you know in parenthesis
alt: a few year back Ancestry 'opened' their "indexed" census entries up for corrections Selma
daviss: that is true Selma re Ancestry but some folks who transcribed were not from these here United states lol
Selma: Whether you are from here or not...BLK does not look like WHITE
alt: right Khathu, I had asked you about the street he was living on in the early 1900's
Selma: What the heck do you mean to "Corrections"..incorrectly indexed words..or what you want it to be
daviss: Lisa Lee has a great session on Ancestry mistakes
alt: right Selma.. originally Black and white is in parens in the index
daviss: was that from the enumerator alt
Selma: Then that is a correction that the person wanted it to be..NOT what was on the document
alt: no daviss.. the original index says black, the image still says black, but there is a correction in parens thesays [white] right Selma, but Ancestry evidently made the 'correction' to the indexed record
Selma: That is not a "correction"
daviss: I guess what I am trying to understand is the writing in parens on the original
alt: okay, what do you call it .. I can handle another word for it
Selma: It is not on the original document daviss..
daviss: ok thanks Selma
Selma: the original index said black....someone had to have written in and wanted them to put white..they put it in parens
alt: when you look at a census record on Ancestry you have a link that says "view record" and a link that says "view image" the correction (?) is on what you see when you click on "view record" It hada 'orignally' black & below that in parens is [white]
Khathu: Have a great day everyone
alt: guess Ms vkn is in,or on her way to Milledgeville today
daviss: I hope she has much success....Is this the day alt,
alt: i thought so daviss, but maybe just sometime this week
Selma: I hope she has a great time.. Folks..have to run..phone call..have a great day
daviss: me too ok Sel
alt: laters y'all