2013-08-07 • Generations different language
alt: hello khathu..... been following your postings on Facebook... good stuff!!
khathu: thanks alt i figure i should start sharing my expertise since i am a part of the group
alt: and your expertise needs to be shared.... some of the 'younger' folks on the social media pages don't have a clue as to how to begin their genealogical journey..... and they don't want to hear from an 'old guy' like me LOL
khathu: well they need to listen since you have a wealth of information
alt: I also want to share, but it seems as if we're speaking in different languages LOL
khathu: that because too many of the newbies are database researchers they assume that all they have to do is enter a name into a database
alt: I guess so, but even then they should know the terminology, concepts & methodologies of genealogy & family history.. or at least be willing to learn them much of what I see and hear is about 'instant gratification'... they don't even know how to find the grandparents, but want to know all about the ancient cultures & people from Africa and then immediately identify with them
khathu: that's the problem, they don't unfortunately this is so true funny, they want to jump back to a gg grandparent ignoring all the other generations it is like building a house one starts with the foundation first and build upon that
alt: yep. a step by step of family history generation by generation is a powerful lesson in the fortitude, endurance and pride we should have about our 'personal' families.
khathu: in the process you develop your skill set and knowledge
alt: for sure and hopefully a sense of pride and self-worth .. our families have been thru the fire and we should be proud of them and honor their efforts to get us to where we 'should be' today.
khathu: exactly.... to run off to a meeting. ttyl
Selma: Afternoon alt..you the only one here
alt: yeah, Khathu was here, but he left me LOL
Selma: Reading back...yes I read the DNA postings..its a whole new world
alt: wdytya.. seems to have a different 'approach' this year. it sure is a 'whole new world' Selma
Selma: WDYTYA..yes focusing on one story line.. This is an expensive show to produce..probably more cost effective..and for the not experienced easier to follow
alt: hello daviss
Selma: Afternoon daviss
daviss: heyyy alt and Selma!
alt: Selma, I would bet that not too many folks are aware of the POW camps for German soldiers here in the U.S. during WW II.
Selma: Probably not alt..
alt: and how those POW's were treated better than the Blacks who may have lived in the communities where the camps were located.
daviss: Alt I worked with a guy at Western Electric who said he had been in a German Camp
alt: a POW camp in Germany daviss?
daviss: no here in the US
alt: oh, okay
daviss: He came to phx with a group of guys from NY whose plant was shut down I think they were from Brooklyn if I remember correctly
alt: I don't remember it, but I've heard stories about the 'freedom' German POW's had at the camp that was located at W-P AFB in Dayton, Ohio.
daviss: I do not know if he was a kid or not in a camp but this was in the 1970s
alt: is that right,.. the 1970's
Selma: You mean you met him in the 70's?
daviss: The guys from here gave him a rough time yes Selma
Selma: Lets just say the German's and South Africans studied well the racial policies here in USA
alt: Selma, did the woman last night.. her grandfather came back to the U.S. after being in a POW camp here, or did he just stay in the U.S. following his internment?
daviss: l am not even sure if this guy was here with a card or not alt
Selma: Believe he went back to Germany then returned with the family
alt: I thought that was what happened Selma, but wasn't sure daviss, did this guy have a 'critical' job skill?
daviss: No he was an Installer like me
alt: oh, okay
daviss: we installed equipment in the central offices.. Western Electric
alt: question.. we (AAGGMV) are revising our website, what would be some of the features you would like to see on YOUR local genealogy website?
Selma: It would be nice if we just had one.. LOL
daviss: lol lol
alt: hehehehehehe @ Selma
Selma: Drusilla did a blog..think last posting was in 2012
alt: we're thinking of a members only section, a link to a Facebook Page, a member's Blog in addition to the regular things like events & meetings, about us, contact points, etc.
daviss: interesting alt. that should get quite a few hits will folks have access to the newsletters
alt: and recruit some new members daviss, especially from out-of-state that have Miami Valley connections
daviss: If not current newsletters mabe some from previous years
alt: only as a member daviss, one of the membership 'perks'
daviss: teaser newsletters alt would be nice
alt: we could put some old ones in an 'archive' section
Selma: That would be a good idea alt
daviss: right thats what I am talking about
alt: and there will be a photo section yes it is a good idea daviss a section to show off member's research, a surname booklet are a couple of other items that are in the 'air'
Selma: You better have a DNA section.. LOL
alt: you bet Selma, we're on the 'cutting edge' LOL LOL
Selma: Alt..folks on the DNA thread were outdone that folks didn't respond to them
alt: or at least liks to DNA pages
Selma: I swear there is something about 23&Me that makes me uncomfortable..
daviss: how so Selma
Selma: I am not sure daviss...
alt: yeah, isn't that something Selma... there are many, many reasons for NOT responding to a stranger from out of the blue
daviss: yes alt, most in my opinion are there only for the health surveys
Selma: Heck I wouldn't be responding to folks.. LOL
alt: and in that thread most of them were 'younger folk' who have no clue about their ancestry, or any information to share with their newly found DNA cousins
Selma: Call me a "grumpy old woman"
alt: not so you can hear me Selma LOL LOL
daviss: That is/was the reason for 23&me in the first place
alt: health aspects daviss
daviss: we just jumped on the bandwagon to get the autosomal results alt
Selma: and they saw it as another market daviss..
alt: I know I did daviss and I couldn't beat the price.... FREE
Selma: But I swear a "3,000 sample" as they said in the Blog Talk show don't sound like a large sample to me for comparison
daviss: no not really Selma it was started to get AfricanAmerican's and others in the health aspect of it
Selma: No offense I don't trust anyone who wants my DNA.. LOL
daviss: I know I talked with my Dr and he was one of the ones who is helping with Alzheimers medicine and studies
alt: the RITF project was to get 10,000 self-identified folks of African Ancestry.
daviss: He said it is really hard to get minorities to get involved
Selma: Cause they are like me daviss.. LOL
daviss: especially African Americans's and Hispanics
alt: yeah, 'dey be's lik Selma' LOL LOL
daviss: yes alt that was the plan but as you know there were many who were NOT self identified jumped into the fray and that caused the funds to be used up No way to tell until they were tested lol
alt: always folks trying to beat the system and get something for FREE daviss
daviss: With the monies that was donated they decided to just charge 99 dollars
alt: on the Facebook thread.. you see where the one guy, Richard, said you couldn't do a paper trail for those in SC, Canada, MA & PA if you didin't live in those areas ,,,, jeez
daviss: which is quite a big drop from the 300 or more they were charging
alt: yes, it was/is daviss
Selma: I think it is the cost and time that is involved alt..
daviss: see alt thats what I mean about some folks that really don't have a clue
alt: yep daviss
daviss: another reason why I think Gen Groups have the edge on teaching etc
Selma: Its a different approach..
alt: Selma, but we have researched across the country from our home on free websites
Selma: I know alt..
daviss: yes alt but you also come from an environment of those once a month meetings and speakers
Selma: But you know me I am not looking for anyone past 1930... LOL
alt: and these 'techie' kids can do it on the Ipads & phones LOL LOL
Selma: Umm need to buy my Powerball ticket..425 million
daviss: oh yeah, me too.. I need at least 10 percent of that for starters lol
alt: and some of those on the thread aren't looking for anyone before 1930 LOL LOL
alt: it's tough to try to explain to youngsters about their grandparents when you ARE their grandparents age. or maybe even older.. some of these kids are grandparents themselves at age 35-40.
Selma: It was good to see Seventies last night
daviss: sheesh I know alt
alt: yes, it was Selma.. sounded as if she is having a 'good time' in MS
Selma: Yes it sounded like she was
daviss: oh thats nice to hear .. I saw some newer pics she posted on FB
alt: on her 'special' pages or for the public daviss?
daviss: on Family Griot FB page
alt: oh, okay ... thanks
daviss: and Ms V has some new images
Selma: Does Khathu have a facebook page alt?
alt: I don't think a 'special' page Selma, just a public one
Selma: Oh ok..saw your comment at the beginning of the chat
alt: if that's what you call it 'public page' LOL he posted on 'Our Black Ancestry" Selma
Selma: Oh Ok..will check later Thought you meant somewhere else Well folks have to run..
alt: I know, it gets confusing on who posted where LOL okay, y'all take care
Selma: Have a great day
alt: I got the lights daviss
daviss: ok alt thx, chairs for me later
alt: Go browns!!!!!!