2013-07-26 • Black Celebrity DNA
daviss: hi there vkn!
vkn: Howdy Mz Lady
daviss: hi alt!!
alt: hello ladies!!! how's it be's LOL LOL
vkn: Howdy Gentleman Alt
alt: why ty vkn
daviss: I may get thrown out of chat..Its starting to rain and seems like it happens every time
vkn: oh dear
alt: a rainy day in AZ
daviss: yep but no way Georgia style lol
daviss: I swear vkn we could have used a rowboat lol
vkn: I hear that
alt: daviss, for some reason my DNA page on Ancestry won't "load", are you having any problems with them?
daviss: I have not been in alt, but will check
Seventies: good day alt, daviss and vkn
daviss: ok alt, I just got in
alt: I called them and they gave me a 'song & dance' about Java & other add-ons & possible browser problems.
daviss: hello Seventies!!
alt: hello Seventies, what's up?
Seventies: Are you using Firefox alt?
vkn: are you rolling Seventies?
daviss: wow alt, I just went in and got my page
Seventies: No not yet. Soon though.
alt: no Seventies.I'm using Chrome and/or IE
daviss: I am using Chrome
Seventies: Oh Chrome causes problems and I stopped using it. I went old school and went to using Firefox Mozilla
alt: I can get to every other feature of Ancestry using Chrome .. only having problems with the DNA page.
daviss: odd alt
vkn: Is Chrome new to you Alt?
alt: truly daviss no vkn, I've been using Chrome & other Google features for at least 2-3 years now.
vkn: You may just need to refresh Alt
Seventies: Sometimes apps aren't made to be compatible to Chrome. That could be another issue.
alt: okay vkn, I've cleared browser history, updated Java & other add-ons
vkn: okey dokey
alt: I'll get it fixed, but it is irritating as heck!!!!
vkn: Chrome is much smarter than I am. So I stick with FF and Safari
Seventies: welcome to the technology world lol
alt: okay vkn... I've just gotten used to Chrome and it 'feels comfortable'. Seventies, when I was in the "technology world" 30-40 years ago my "stuff" worked
daviss: I like Chrome also but not I/E
alt: me too daviss
daviss: lol alt like the old fashoned phones
Seventies: I hear ya alt! Feels like eons since I've been in the tech world too... lol
vkn: Well I enjoyed Chrome at one point. Then "they" upgraded it and I got left behind . lol Techies be alt Daviss and Seventy
alt: yep daviss, and you could 'fix' stuff, now they just throw it away and get something newer LOL
daviss: not me vkn you know I can not grip anything in this ole head of mine
vkn: takes time daviss
alt: me neither daviss, I know what I know and that ain't much LOL LOL
Seventies: alt so true!
daviss: Taylor wants a Mac for the start of school I hope she has saved up enough money from her lil summer job lol
Seventies: well she should be able to buy it at a student rate.
vkn: Yeah Taylor !!!
alt: not to worry Taylor, Moma has you covered LOL LOL
daviss: Tyler is saying Yeah with you vkn lol he will get her old one
alt: Moma = Momma
daviss: whew alt, I thought you meant grandmama
alt: oh no daviss
daviss: I am grumpy enough hehehee
alt: yeah daviss
vkn: Saw a interesting video on DNA yesterday
daviss: oh really vkn, which one was that
Seventies: online or on TV vkn?
vkn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDOzrU0AU-w I think that is it On line
Seventies: I dig the opening music...
daviss: I had not seen that one
alt: isn't she, or her family from Columbus, OH?
Seventies: who did Judge Hatchett's DNA test? African Ancestry? Thanks for sharing vkn daviss got knocked out!
alt: that sounds like An African Ancestry "commercial"
daviss: sorry bout that
alt: yeah, the certificates are from AA, right?
vkn: Ouchies So did I get knocked
Seventies: If you skip further you'll see that there are other companies used.
alt: all but FTDNA
vkn: Y'all I think this is how mis information is so wildly spread
alt: why wouldn't her haplogroups match from all companies????
Seventies: Hi Selma
vkn: Howsy Selma
alt: hello Selma
vkn: She is an Adams Alt
alt: now see, that's what gets me ... can't trace to a country of origin and then mentions a "continent" jeez!!!
daviss: ok back Hi Selma
vkn: double jeez
alt: no, she shares the same haplogroup as John Adams watching as we chat
vkn: oh ok me gots lots to unlearn and learn
alt: Hello khathu
vkn: Howdy khathu
Khathu: Hello everyone
daviss: hello khathu!
Seventies: Hello Khathu
vkn: we are sort of DNA ing
alt: ridiculous!!!!! 40 years following the CW and he becomes an educated property owner as if that was unusual.
daviss: where are you alt lol I had to reboot
alt: watching the youtube link daviss
daviss: ok I am late to the party
vkn: It is good and superficial
alt: at the 11-12 minute mark
daviss: ok thanks
vkn: See Alt people are misguided
alt: let me shut up LOL LOL
Selma: Afternoon Khathu
vkn: no not time to be quiet
Khathu: What strategies if any, has anyone taken to determine or verify the dna relative(s) on 23andMe?
Seventies: I'm working on one now. .77% over 3 segments Mother German, Father AA.
daviss: I joined the page ISOGG and read some of the posts
vkn: I have not tested as yet
alt: using the paper trail Khathu .. problem is, most testers don't know beyond their immediate family lines
Seventies: I had to explain to him 'how' our DNA would likely connect.
Selma: They are basing the results of about 3,000 black folk people or that was what was said 2 weeks ago..seems small to me
Khathu: So where would you start with the paper trail
Seventies: He spent a lot of time talking about his paternal mother's family.
Khathu: I have someone who is listed as 3rd/4th cousin .90% shared, 3 segments If they are my 3rd cousin that would mean we share a common gg grandparent correct
Seventies: That's more than the average 3rd cousin... a 3rd cousin wouldd be .781%
alt: I started with my Y & mtDNA haplogroups and then traced to my FPOC ancestors... the longer enslaved ancestors were a little more difficult
Khathu: @Seventies huh?
Seventies: I would be looking more at a second cousin once removed Talking about % of shared DNA
Khathu: please explain
alt: that's a problem with the DNA relatives.. it doesn't get into the "removed' aspects of genealogy
Seventies: If you had a 3rd cousin straight down the line with two common gg grandparents, it would be about .78% shared DNA
alt: they're into a 'blacker than' % ... ridiculous!!!!!
vkn: lol "creeper"
Selma: What the heck are you watching alt?
alt: the youtube video vkn gave us Selma
Selma: Afternoon Historybuff
alt: Hi HistoryBuff
Selma: Oh..who is the subject..or what is the subject
History_Buff: Hey Khathu, Selma, vkn, daviss, Seventies and alt
vkn: Howdy History
Khathu: Hello HistoryBuff
alt: celebrities who have had their DNA tested Selma
daviss: Hello Historybuff
alt: snoopy dog is 23% NA.. that is "huge" !!!!
History_Buff: You like that huh, alt?
alt: not really History_Buff, this is like a comic routine
vkn: A circus
Selma: Who put the video out..or produced it?
alt: truly vkn & to me it isn't funny
History_Buff: Hey Alt, I did follow up on the Washington County , OH burial place I mentioned about the USCT and Gist. That was the location I was speaking of.
daviss: lol Snoop Dog alt not Snoopy Dog
vkn: I think African Ancestry?
alt: really History_Buff .. was the person actually named Gist?
Seventies: You're both wrong he's now Snoop Lion.... lol lol lol lol
alt: Oops daviss, see what I know LOL
vkn: Seventies what happened to Dogg ?
Seventies: He became a Rastafari. In the future, His family is going to have a hard time finding him in public records... lol
vkn: ooohhh from the Blue mountains of Jamaica or Addis Ababa
History_Buff: The cemetery was called Gist and a history teacher from Washington Senior High School was heading an archaeological project with his students there in Washington County, OH but I don't recall the soldiers's names. However, a student discovered an ancestor on the burial site
Seventies: Naw, his family is from Mississippi..lol
Khathu: Have a great everyone
vkn: oops seventies lol
History_Buff: Later Khathu
alt: yes the Washington HS in Fayette Co. & the teacher is Paul LaRue .. I worked with them in research Clark, Champiaign, Logan & Miami countites History_Buff
alt: Burke, Norman, those are the two most famous USCT's from Washington county, OH
History_Buff: He made a presentation at the AACWM during the Grand Re-opening two years ago.
vkn: So much for that much which is not much re DNA
alt: I'll have to watch that agin vkn
vkn: and explain it to the rest of us
Selma: Why alt?..you will go from a Headache to a Migraine
vkn: lol Selma you are too funny
alt: I'm a sadist Selma LOL or what is the other word for punishing one's self?
vkn: and a grumpy sadist at that, from his own words folks lol
Selma: Anyone listen to Blog Talk last night?
vkn: I missed last night
History_Buff: Sorry I was out like a light.
daviss: I did not Selma, I missed it again. Sometimes 6 pm is too early for me
vkn: Well one good thing we can listen later
Seventies: Alright leaving for the day! Have a good one!
daviss: was it pretty good Selma?
vkn: u 2
alt: History_Buff .. have you sen this site http://www.usctohio.org/
History_Buff: Laters Seventies.
daviss: bye Seventies
Selma: Ummm interesting...
History_Buff: Yes Alt, I was just reviewing it yesterday.
alt: washington county is in the eastern section
Selma: I have been mulling over it daviss..
History_Buff: Yes, I saw that and even printed it out for my records.
alt: I helped Paul and his class with the western section on the left of the map
History_Buff: I'm preparing for a museum tour with my family reunion. Very nice Alt.
daviss: sounds like a hmmmm not so sure about that Selma lol
Selma: I will say that the speaker focused on the scholarly works being written...and I think it is actually Paul Heinneg's work which has changed the conversation
daviss: ahhhhh, I see
vkn: It's about time Selma
alt: oh last nite... yeah Selma that was too academic for me I did enjoy it tho'
Selma: and he was not part of the conversation..but for the larger genealogical community I can tell you his work caused and continues to cause much consternation
alt: you betcha Selma
Selma: He lets the "record" speak for itself..and the record speaks VOLUMES
alt: tri-racials & Melungoens don't care much for Paul's work
vkn: I recall your saying so when his work was first introduced Selma in fact I think you introduced it and Paul to AfriGeneas
daviss: clap, clap, clap @ Selma
Selma: it ain't just tri-racials and Melungeons
alt: he found the lost colony LOL LOL LOL
Selma: The speaker I thought painted a "more benign" picture of the early early 1600 time frame than I think
alt: yeah, they kinda of tip-toed around Obama's white ancestry having a Black man in the mixture.
daviss: oh yeah!
Selma: Although I am aware that there were Africans who appear to have been indentured..I believe that "most" were already seen as the "other" and enslaved
alt: right Selma
daviss: yes so true
Selma: It already was the way of the Atlantic World in which the British was operating
vkn: Did yall read te article/profile of te urrent poet laureate that was written in the AJC and posted on Writers forum
daviss: not yet vkn
History_Buff: No I had not.
vkn: Bi racial child from Mississippi Written by a member of my HUNTER-LESLIE research
History_Buff: I'm sorry, AJC?
daviss: Where are your Leslie's from vkn..I knew a fella here by the name of William Leslie from NY?
vkn: Jackson County Florida Daviss
History_Buff: Oh the Atlanta Journal Constitution?
alt: it would seem that there would be more bi-racial children in the South than the North.... more Blacks to mix with & more FPOC in the south than in the north ... but that's just statistics
vkn: and that is Marianna
Selma: Just found vkn..browsing, interesting, will read later
vkn: yes the Journal HistoryBuff
alt: there goes the nap, huh Selma? LOL
vkn: Well alt what are the stats on Gay Couples who are bi-racial
Selma: No alt...no nap today..have things to do and places to go...
alt: not sure vkn, but that aspect seems to get an unusual amount of commentary/publicity
vkn: Just by observation it seems the numbers are high
daviss: I would think so too vkn
alt: I agree with that vkn & daviss
vkn: Well I was thinking about your North South stat
alt: yeah, most folks don't realize there were more 'free' Blacks in the south than there were in the north but here were almost 4 milion black in the south at the time of the CW to less than 1/2 million Blacks in the north.
History_Buff: Interesting. Where is this article, Vkn?
Selma: Well folks have to run..have a great day
daviss: Ok Selma have a great day
vkn: Intimacy in da South and distance in da north
alt: you bet vkn
vkn: On writers History
History_Buff: Okay thanks
daviss: big bucks and that can go both ways :?
alt: the difference between too big & too close north vs south as relates to Blacks, even today
vkn: Intimacy and prejudice in da South and distance and liberalism in da north
alt: yep, you got it vkn
vkn: Oops gotta run y'all
daviss: bye all
alt: well , y'all can you do it without me LOL LOL I'm outta here
daviss: lol bye alt cya HistoryBuff