2013-07-03 • Hiring a researcher
khathu: hello vkn
vkn: howdy brb
alt: hello khathu & vkn... Happy pre-4th of July
khathu: hello alt
Selma: Good afternoon alt, daviss, khathu and vkn
daviss: hello alt, khathu,Selma and vkn! How is everyone? ok then, how are you Selma?
alt: hello folks... daviss, Khathu, Selma
alt: Happy pre-4th of July to all
khathu: i'm well...just trying to refocus on my research
daviss: thanks alt and to you as well
alt: Daviss, if you're available may I give you a DNA call later this afternoon? Things are happening!!!!!!
daviss: you surely can
alt: okay, thanks
HistoryBuff: Hey all
Selma: Afternoon Historybuff
daviss: How's it going
daviss: hi there vkn
vkn: had to make a cup
HistoryBuff: It's going.
vkn: daviss did zipper work
HistoryBuff: Hey Vkn
alt: y'all see the message posted by Hope Blackstock on AfriGeneas? I have her Epps/Rickman family on my family website & she is a DNA couisn.
daviss: I am still trying to figure it out vkn...lol
vkn: how about that alt
daviss: I downloaded three and then deleted them
HistoryBuff: Trying to develop a city for family reunion in August.
vkn: little late HistoryBuff
alt: good luck with that HistoryBuff
HistoryBuff: city tour
alt: whew!!! that's better HistoryBuff
HistoryBuff: Thanks Alt
daviss: what do you mean develop a city
alt: Does the city have a convention bureau HistoryBuff
Selma: You mean focusing on "your own family" khathu.. Cause you were doing great work on the Cartwrights
vkn: raining cats and dogs in metro atlanta
HistoryBuff: Sorry I meant city tour.
alt: send some to daviss vkn
vkn: will do
HistoryBuff: The major planning has been under way since last August.
alt: in what city are you having thr reunion HistoryBuff?
alt: oh, that could be a problem... there is soooo much to show in DC.
HistoryBuff: There are so many choices
vkn: that should be a snap HistoryBuff
alt: one stop could be the Frederick Douglass home .. a beautiful view of the City from the hill
HistoryBuff: It's the museum capital of the nation.
alt: and of course the CW Monument, if that's not too far away.
Selma: Are you going to have a bus historybuff?
HistoryBuff: Yes to both Alt. Mlk memorial included.
alt: sounds like you've got a plan HistoryBuff LOL
HistoryBuff: Yes Selma got it reserved already.
daviss: you have to reserve a visit? oops sorry I am late to the party lol You are talking about the bus
Selma: Reading article in Washington Post..Mandela's family is feuding about where he will be buried after he dies...
daviss: wow Selma!
Selma: I don't want to hear or read anything else about it..
alt: yes, I read that Selma...
HistoryBuff: That's awful to hear.
vkn: Mandela has two families
daviss: Are those the kids feuding?
alt: and you just know the "Press" isn't going to let it go.
vkn: Did he die?
Selma: Just read the article the article daviss...in the Post. No he has not vkn
vkn: gee whiz
alt: didn't the g-son remove other bodies from a family plot... or to a family plot in their "home town"?
vkn: Well he certainly has been pushed to the edge by the press Selma
daviss: ok Sel, I will read
HistoryBuff: It would seem that he would have expressed his wishes in writing
alt: it would seem so HistoryBuff
HistoryBuff: Such a nasty situation
alt: but as we all know .... family knows best
vkn: and such a man of peace
HistoryBuff: Indeed. The final analysis is a different matter.
daviss: He very well may have put his wishes in writing somewhere
HistoryBuff: Let's hope so.
Selma: Anymore on your Slater/Slatter/Slaughter...s vkn
vkn: not yet Selma
khathu: @Selma yes- I have been working off and on with several family lines where the oral history regarding the slaveholding family is very detailed i just haven't been able to substantiate the oral history yet
vkn: Alt did a great job to clarify the questions Selma I am in a hire a researcher mode
Selma: It has come to that vkn.. LOL
vkn: Time is not on my side lol lol lol
alt: either that or find someone you can "talk it thru" with vkn.. I find talking out loud and with someone often brings to light things that we have read, or heard.
vkn: Maybe I could get Mark Lowe
Selma: I would trust him
daviss: talk later folks I need to take a run...
alt: Mark is good, but he is busier than than ...... Laters daviss , look for my call
daviss: will do alt
vkn: i am sure
alt: anytime better for you daviss
Selma: You are going to have to find someone who can research the slave owning families connections
alt: , poof, gone like a flash LOL
vkn: Alt I do find FULCHER in Paul's work
alt: vkn, I would suggest you write out "specifically" what you are looking for if you hire someone.... otherwise they may just cover ground that you've already plowed that's what you said vkn.... are they on/in his book re:Fulcher
vkn: Thanx alt I do have a timeline and events log
alt: okay., good vkn
Selma: What state and what time frame did you find the surname in Paul's book
alt: just be very specific about what you're looking for.
Selma: Another "Arab Spring" going on in Egypt
vkn: In NC Selma
khathu: I would agree with alt about being very specific when hiring someone
alt: a cousin and I had a 'pro' do some work for us... they came back with 'stuff' we already knew cause we weren't very specific about what we already had and what we were looking for.
vkn: time frame specifics escape me
Selma: Spoke with a friend yesterday..she paid someone, and the person sent her material that she have sent her to review.
khathu: i would suggest that you write up what you have gathered with sources citations and provide that to the researchers in addition to what you are looking for
vkn: I hear that Alt
alt: there you go Selma
vkn: Thanx Khathu
alt: good approach khathu
khathu: that should help you avoid the pitfalls that many of us have made when hiring someone i usually hire persons to pull records for me
vkn: Hopefully it will
alt: there is going to be some overlap, but you're looking for information beyond what you already have
alt: like what , if any are the relations between Slater/Fulcher/Dunston and when and where did they originate &/or end.
khathu: alt that would be a little too broad. I would narrow that down vkn needs to be as specific as possible
Selma: Isn't this Georgia vkn?
alt: vkn has the will and deed of conveyance that "alludes' to these relationships I think she wants the know how, when why & where
vkn: yes Selma but the paul fulcher work is NC
khathu: i would also suggest that you start off with one question to see how the researcher is doing
HistoryBuff: See that's one of the tasks I am continuously refining-what my search focuses are.
khathu: vkn what is the assumed connection from the will
Selma: VKN..you have the Will of the Mary Denton/Dunton that is mentioned in the document you sent us
vkn: No will of Denton/Duston as yet Selma that is the next pursuit actually that is the current pursuit
alt: a basic & for sure question ... is Mary A Fulcher one and the same as Mary A. Dunton/Denton?
vkn: and Alt Allegro was a laundry woman
alt: I figured that might have been her occuaption vkn.. Laundry women did quite well financially in those days.
vkn: Also her son Alonzo was a Page in the GA legislature when the Cap was Milledgeville
HistoryBuff: Are we talking about the late 1800s, Alt?
alt: so she did the laundry for families that well-to-do & well connected.
vkn: 1866-1867 apparently
Selma: She bought the property in 1866...wasn't the area she was in during the War under Union control
vkn: good question selma but I would say yes
alt: so it is possible she was making and accumulating money as a laundress even before the end of the CW.
Selma: That is what was happening in the contraband camps here in the Hampton area
khathu: have a great day everyone
alt: you too
vkn: Allegro sent her son Charles to Hampton with a $50.00 gold piece
Selma: You gotta send me the info vkn..so I can go down to HU next week
vkn: Okies Selma and thanx a mil
HistoryBuff: Is HU for Hampton University, Selma?
Selma: Yes historybuff
HistoryBuff: Okay. I'm so used to hearing HU for Howard University.
Selma: True..true Well folks..gotta run...
HistoryBuff: Laters Selma
Selma: Have a great day... Bye
vkn: Will call you Alt
alt: example of laundrees & money.. Fanny Carter, a FPOC, bought 2 lot's of land in the 1820's in Urbana, Ohio... gave 1 lot to the A.M.E. church that was founded there in 1824... she was a "laundress"
alt: okay vkn, looking forward to your call... later's and have a good safe 4th of July y'all
vkn: Good 4th History
HistoryBuff: Take care.
vkn: U 2