2013-04-11• Yatah & DNA Results
vkn: now is the lol not sure of problemo great projects from sister1 would be fun to connect with marsh lol Brad Paisley defends his controversial new single against charges of belittling slavery and racism.
Seventies: good afternoon vkn
vkn: Heyyy hey hay and how is seventies ?
Seventies: I'm doing well. I went ahead and joined Pintrest this morning... Hi daviss
vkn: I think smilies is working again
daviss: hello Seventies and vkn!
vkn: lol lol
vkn: Daviss and how be y ou this day
daviss: I am well vkn, thanks for asking What about you??
Seventies: I see you commented on the Brad Paisley and LL Cool J song "Accidental Racist" vkn.
vkn: yes seventies what on earth LL is not cool
HistoryBuff: Hey Daviss, Seventies, and Vkn.
vkn: Howdy HistoryBuff
daviss: Hello HistoryBuff
Seventies: hi HistoryBuff
vkn: I be wearing audio phones today. Gotta turn the sound down
Seventies: Ok this is my comment about that song. I don't like it. That is all.
vkn: lol I am with you seventies without even listening
Seventies: Well no, I had to listen so that I could know exactly why I don't like it.
HistoryBuff: I can appreciate that. I'm not sure what the song was trying to say.
daviss: Hello Selma
vkn: Howdy Selma how you be
HistoryBuff: Hey Selma
Selma: Good afternoon daviss, HistoryBuff, seventies and vkn
Seventies: It was yet again legitimatizing the Confederacy as a cultural norm while demonizing black style and telling us to forget about slavery, Jim Crow Etc. Giving the White boy a pass. Wonder how Jews would feel about a song regarding the Nazi Flag. And that was intraEuropean conflict... IJS Hi Selma
HistoryBuff: Indeed Seventies.
yatah: hi all
HistoryBuff: Hey Yatah.
Selma: Afternoon yatah.. Afternoon alt
yatah: i had question
vkn: well well yatah glad to see you
HistoryBuff: Hey Alt
alt: wow!!! got a seat left, hello ladies
Seventies: You know who the CEO of the record company is who most likely put this out? the same folks who gave MJ a hard time for him allegedly saying ki*ke on a record... um hmmm
daviss: out of curiosity Seventies and I did not listen to song. Was LL a contributor
Seventies: Hi alt, yatah what's up??
yatah: thanks i just foward dna result
vkn: eyyyyy and heyyyyy alt glad to see you
daviss: hello alt and yatah!
Seventies: Ok for those who didn't listen to the song, please listen. This will give you a working knowledge of what was said and you can legitimately criticize and critique the song.
Seventies: Never go by title just alone.
daviss: Is it oldschool Seventies?
yatah: 23 and me said almost ready and when result come in e mail will in 72 hrs that normal
Seventies: No not at all... I did say LL Cool J.. lol That is normal yatah.
vkn: I take your words for it seventies. The NEWS segue was enough for me
daviss: lol ok thats what I wanted to know, if he was also involved in song and gave his opinion.
yatah: ok 72 hrs how long will fast lol
Seventies: I haven't watched the news on TV in years... they lie too much.
Selma: No comment, haven't heard the song, nor read the News
alt: me neither Selma
Seventies: Alright moving on. I joined pinterest!
daviss: so yatah you should be able to see your results by saturday
Selma: and what is "pinterest"?
Seventies: So look for me and my docs there at Family Griot!
vkn: When are results due Yatah
yatah: i am step 4 now but wait 72 hrs from now
vkn: Seventies and how does it relate to Google and Facebook
Selma: Yatah...you will have to come back and give us the results..
yatah: health or dna ? lol
Seventies: It doesn't relate to google. It ties into facebook as you can use your login to access it, but I didn't tie mine into either twitter or facebook.
vkn: dna results and hope you be healthy Yatah lol
Seventies: Its like the old pincushion photo board..
Selma: Ok that was confusng seventeis
alt: so what is the value/application of/for pintinterest?
daviss: yatah, just the dna results
yatah: yeah health results will tell me how ?
Seventies: I struggled with understanding that fora awhile, BUT you can post images there in an organized manner. And it also ties into other social media.
karoshi8: Hello everyone!
yatah: ok i will
Seventies: hi karoshi8
Selma: Afternoon karoshi8
daviss: hello karoshi8!
vkn: Alt and Daviss TribalPages not accepting GEDCOM from Mac OSX What a bummer
yatah: i hope good news about my dna result
alt: okay, so it is another social media "gimmick" lol said grumpy 'ol alt LOL
karoshi8: alt my dear I need your expertise!
Seventies: So I'm using it to post pics and docs... there are quite a few folks already out there on the genealogy side there.
vkn: Howdy karoshi8
alt: oh, oh you're in trouble karoshi8
HistoryBuff: Hey karoshi8
Seventies: Depends on your mastery of social media. But yes that's one view alt. LOL
yatah: hey 23 and me will tell how % of what tribe ? am come from
karoshi8: My KY trip was successful! I found 3 deeds with my 3rd great grandmother's name.
vkn: Good for you Yatah
yatah: yea i hope i can find something good
HistoryBuff: Great for you, karoshi8!. Deeds are treasures!
alt: don't expect too much 'ancestral' information from DNA & 23andme yatah
karoshi8: The first is in 1859 she bought a property from a Thomas Vaughn. Strange because she is a woman and married.
alt: sounds like a succesful trip karoshi8
Seventies: Ok let me say this, if y'all think 23 and me is going to give you ethnic origins information outside of European... sadly mistaken.. lol
karoshi8: But her husband isn't even mentioned.
daviss: yatah whatever it tells you be it black, what or whatever be happy
yatah: it will tell me how % black of mine ?
daviss: black white or whatever yes it will yatah, you will get percentages
vkn: ouchies seventies
yatah: if i am white and half black i will shock lol
Seventies: daviss dd you get that dna thing sorted out? lol I ran your M# and you are related to yourself! LOL
karoshi8: The second one has her selling it to my 2nd great grandmother. And states that Samuel, Squire(William), and Mary Robinson are living in Urbana, Ohio in 1885.
alt: it will give you you % of ethnic origins yatah
daviss: It will be what it will be Yatah..Its your dna makeup
alt: Urbana, Ohio !!!!!!!! that's home turf for me!!
yatah: yea smile
Seventies: You know Tim Pinnick was telling me that his McFarlands came from KY. I'd asked because so many folks came to IL from MS.
Selma: karoshi...so she bought land in KY and sold to folks living in OHio?
karoshi8: So, the plot thickens. Because I was told they didn't come to Ohio until 1906.
yatah: thanks for your feedback
daviss: yatah you will"not" get tribe percentages
karoshi8: Yes Selma, but she sold to her daughter in law.
alt: karoshi8, I know the/a Robinson family in Urbana very well .....
vkn: Henry Ford was buying the tickets seventies and he created a town called Inkster so maybe same in IL
yatah: ok but will tell me black or white or native american or whatever right
Seventies: Hmm interesting.
karoshi8: Now this is the tricky part. I do have a Lillian Robinson on my Winbun/Winburn side that lived around Champaign Co. Samuel Stewart who is mentioned as living there on the deed married into the Winbun/Winburns.
karoshi8: My Lillian Robinson comes in with the Elder families.
vkn: Yatah hen you look in mirror what do you see
daviss: whatever your dna makeup is yatah it will tell you by percentages
yatah: hen ?
daviss: You will see that when you get your results
yatah: oh i learn new hen lol
vkn: lol cut that out yatah lol
karoshi8: So, it could be one in the same. But I don't know much about the Robinson's at all.
yatah: my skin light color like olive mix little white on it light than all of my sister or my brother they dark than mine
daviss: one last thing yatah..When you get your results look under Ancestry Composition that is where you will find it
yatah: ok thanks for information
vkn: HistoryBuff not understanding your ? on relatives for Milton Bell. He is brother to my mother and one of 14 sibs
daviss: you are welcome yatah
karoshi8: What do you know of them alt?
alt: karoshi8, have you checked Champaign Co., OH census records from the 1900's forward?
Seventies: I'll brb too. Going to get cake.
karoshi8: Yum cake!
HistoryBuff: I'll look further, vkn.
daviss: I wonder what happened to the lady looking into Rusk County vkn?
karoshi8: I know in 1902 Samuel is in Ross county. I can't find any in Champaign Co before that.
vkn: Not sure daviss
Seventies: Yes cake.. let me tell you about that.. lol One of my coworkers his wife had a baby last week. All are outside running around. Mom is wearing a midriff skirt.. lol I tell you.. not me.
vkn: HistoryBuff I have all of their stories.
Seventies: Who does that???
HistoryBuff: Okay Vkn. I'll follow up with you. Hey Selma.
Seventies: My grandmother who was a midwife always said that the body needs time to heal before you can go out into the elements. I just don't get it.
vkn: HistoryBuff I have all of their stories. None tie to his military service until his death in about 1932 when each recd a financial award based on the death
Selma: karoshi..did the land purchased in Ohio..stay in the family
alt: karoshi8, Robinson's married into the Stanhope family in Urbana, Ohio. that's one connection I know of from the turn of the century (1900's).
vkn: Well seventies the strain of child "bearing" meant that the bones and muscles had to re connect and "heal"
karoshi8: It was purchased in KY and mentioned the people in Ohio who were originally from KY
vkn: and seventies there could be no light in the room and the abdomen had to be bound
Seventies: wow that's old school. My aunt told me to wear a girdle while my body was healing. ha! Now I wish I had... lol
karoshi8: Do you know where the Robinson come from?
alt: Robinson's also married Guy's in Urbana ..
karoshi8: I'm thinking Mary Robinson is the daughter of Harriet Stewart Withers.
vkn: not old school consider only school and that babies were being caught by midwives and mothers were being taught by midwives
daviss: I have seen several Grimes County Texas relatives listed as midwives on BC's None yet in Harrison County but I know there had to be
yatah: bye all good day
Selma: Bye yatah..come back next week
daviss: bye Yatah
alt: bye yatah
yatah: ok i will
vkn: Yes Daviss and many breeched babies were 'still born'
daviss: so true vkn
alt: yatah's interpretation of her DNa results is going to be very interesting LOL
Selma: Yes it is
vkn: sure will be
daviss: thats for sure alt
Selma: None of these DNA test give tribal affiliations?
daviss: thats what I think I was trying to say to her
alt: It is amazing some of the conclusions folks can arrive at from DNA testing results.
daviss: true vkn but I was jealous and had my own done lol lol
vkn: I posted an excerpt from a DNA expert which said test to be done from oldest male family member. Alt and Daviss what is up with that?
daviss: I then had my brother do his
vkn: so what does age have to do with Y and not with X
alt: I agree with that concept vkn.... oldest & possibly youngest members in a family line woudl be ideal.... example me @ 79 y/o & grt-grandchildren @ less than 1 y/o would give a tremendous range of possibilites. and grt-grandchildren would cross many different family lines.
vkn: So just when I get near the DNA shore I get tossed back to sea lol
karoshi8: alt, are there black Stewart's in Urbana?
daviss: lol so do the experts vkn
Selma: I am still treading water in the sea.. LOL
alt: I wish my parents were alive and I was able to get their DNA tested.
vkn: lol lol lol at daviss thanx for the rope and anchor
daviss: oh alt what I would give I saw you in the ocean Selma with your arms stretched wide lol btw nice pic lol
vkn: Me first Selma lol
Selma: Oh right..I forgot I had that picture there...that was the Indian Ocean couldn't you tell
vkn: lol lol lol
daviss: oh really, lol I only know pacific
HistoryBuff: Signing out. See you good folks later.
daviss: later HB
alt: bye HistoryBuff
vkn: Well Daviss best you check out link from Schomburg exhibit okies history
daviss: I meant as far as wading vkn lol lol
alt: reading some DNA postings .... seems like a lot of "white' folks are finding some african ancestored family members in the genealogy/DNA histories.
vkn: I bet that is on target alt
Seventies: Yes, I found one on 23andme... no e-mail response yet. He shares the same surname as one of my ancestors... lol
daviss: lol alt and I would love for some of those to share basics with me..
alt: can't understand why that is thought to be so unusual, if 25-30 % of AA males have euro ancestry in their DNA.
daviss: besides my known family the rest are way up there and white
Seventies: 35% of AA males What are your thoughts about that daviss?
vkn: Seventies was saving this one for you
vkn: Sylvester Manor on Shelter Island Returns to Its Roots BY ANNE RAVER In the hands of a new generation, Sylvester Manor, the 17th-century estate on Shelter Island, has returned to its roots as a working farm, but in a 21st-century sort of way.
daviss: I have no thoughts really Seventies, I want wills and Inventories lol
vkn: Sent to me by niece who hopes to be´engaged in that project
Seventies: ok this is on the Sea Islands off GA?
vkn: Will tell you more tomorrow
alt: I wonder what the % is for AA's who have "white" females in the DNA/genealogical histories?
Seventies: ok daviss, honey best of luck. Look towards those folks. Also Moriah... have you looked for that?
daviss: I have about 7 folks that are 42% and 34 cms
Seventies: That's a great question alt. I have a black cousin who still won't share genomes or respond to me.
vkn: No NYC seventies
Seventies: 66% over 4 segments. okay vkn. hmmmm I'll have to look that up online to get more details. Thanks for sharing!
Selma: Is this someone you already know seventies..or only thru thr results
daviss: I do also and so does my grand. By those % she may have a sister or brother
Seventies: only through results Selma .66% I meant. That seems very high... what are you alls thoughts and opinions on this?
daviss: 3rd cousin mabe Seventies may be a 3rd cousin
Seventies: Definitely 3rd cousin
Selma: Like the paper trail that leads us to folks..DNA is seen as even more intrusive seventies..
vkn: Y'all be good. All the best karoshi8 Naptime selma
Seventies: later vkn
daviss: aside from those who research I can see that Selma fear of the unk
alt: between 23andme, FTDNA & AncestryDNA I have over 1,200 DNA "tested" cousins.... I wonder how many "untested" living cousins there may be out there 100K-200K, more?
Seventies: I mean come on so many families were separated for some reason or another that I don't feel we should take it so personal up to a certain extent.
Selma: Thats you seventies..not all see it that way
alt: and that "extent" is certainly personal Seventies
Seventies: that's true.
daviss: lol alt all I want is a few more of my lines to test and I will be happy. It could settle all those questions that are lurking in the back woods of east Texas
Seventies: I guess its about where you set your expectations.
alt: good luck daviss,
daviss: ha, no luck so far. my knees and clasped hands are raw from asking my three finger salute is almost near range
alt: Seventies, I don't even bother to respond to sharing requests unless the person has some knowledge of their ancestry.... I'm too old to be acting as a 'family finder" for just the inquisitive ... grumpy old man speaking LOL
Seventies: lol Gosh alt you have been grumpy for a while now. What's going on???
Selma: Grumpy is good.. lOL
Seventies: lol Selma
alt: I'm just old & tired Seventies, too tired for a lot of jibberish & BS, my time is now too valuable
Seventies: Yep I understand that... :} Anything else good going on with you all?
daviss: bye all, gotta make a few calls
alt: I love to help folks, but I ain't gonna any longer do their "heavy lifting" as far as genealogy is concerned.
Selma: Folks have to run..alt, my mom is waiting for 3 PM so she can watch the Masters
alt: Tiger was even par after 4 holes Selma
Seventies: have a good time Selma
Selma: Think I need a nap.. don't want to be GRUMPY
Seventies: ok look here. I'ma talk to you all tomorrow. Behave yourselves... Selma and alt! lol
alt: okay .. y'all take care
Selma: Bye ..bye karoshi