*LunchBunch
Start: 12:06:09
End: 13:44:00
Chatters: alt, Chaise, Daviss, Khathu, Selma, Seventies
Daviss: Hello there Seventies!!!
alt: Hi Ladies, Happy pre-New Year to ya!! LOL
Daviss: hi there Alt!! Happy New Year to you as well I think our lil rebel is walking around somewhere lol lol
alt: Seventies must be multi-tasking ??? good nickname "lil rebel" LOL i like that.
Daviss: yeah, out in that Washington DC weather lol
alt: Well, I guess your Cards & my Browns can hang up their cleats. LOL
Daviss: How did you like all the outcomes yesterday via football We were thinking the same thing alt lol
alt: I liked most of them .. playoffs are going to be exciting.
Daviss: I told my daughter we need to quit playing and go for all quarterbacks lol during the draft I do have a fear that we will lose some of our good defensive players though
alt: I'm goona bargin for 29 min halves and 59 min games.... the Browns go berserk and give up too many points at the end of the 1st half and then at the end of the ball game.
Daviss: you can't keep losing and losing year after year..
alt: nope
Daviss: I think we went through 5 quarterbacks all losers well all losers when we picked them up Grrrrr
alt: I got 72 new DNA matches from ancestry over this past week and Wilson still isn't one of them.... at least not by his given & surname.
Daviss: wow alt... I wonder why that is I need to look at mine to see if I gained any closer ones
Selma: Happy New Year's Eve alt, daviss and seventies
Daviss: hello Selma... Happy New Year!
Selma: The Redskins won....Yeah Happy New Year to tomorrow daviss... LOL
alt: I'm wondering if he may be adopted ..... there was an adoption by the lady he says is his grandmother.
Daviss: lol my Nephew said the same thing and his daddy is crying lol
alt: oh, oh Selma is rubbing it in on us Daviss LOL
Daviss: I know alt...... That could be a reason alt....especially since he shows up in mine
alt: nevetheless, Happy New Year to ya Selma
Daviss: lol lol lol Where did you see that alt re adoption
Selma: Wow alt..you got 72 new DNA matches Where is seventies..is she in the room?
alt: there was an adoption by the lady listed as his grandmother.... she adopted her sister's stepson at the death of her sister at a very young age, like 23-24 y/o.
Daviss: alt are you on the low end of the scale or in the middle for your matches
alt: On Ancestry.com Selma.... you gotta remember their membership and databse for possible kinfolk is HUGE!!!!!!!!!
Daviss: brb
Seventies : Hi all
alt: Daviss, all of my Ancestry DNA matches are in the 5th cousin or greater range. excpt for 1 or 2 in the 3rd cousin range.
Selma: Hi seventies... Are you still in DC?
alt: well hello Seventies , glad you could join us LOL LOL
Seventies : Yes Selma. lol to the person who said they were glad I could join chat. lol
alt: Selma, I think someone is trying to ignore me LOL LOL
Daviss: ok back
Seventies : I am on the kindle one finger typing.lol
Daviss: hi Seventies!
alt: yeah, excuses, excuses LOL
Seventies : I had an emergency here
Daviss: Are you okay?
alt: yes, are you okay!!!!!
Seventies : yes
alt: okay just checked my online bank statement... the cancelled check from the Sacramento place wasn't listed so I guess I'm still in a holding pattern with them... drats!!!!
Daviss: oh shucks alt!!
Seventies : The boiler has gone out then back on and the place can't decide if they want Me to stay or check out.
alt: yeah Daviss, I gotta be patient.
Selma: Not good seventies..how cold is it.
Seventies : The banks do this on purpose.
Daviss: my goodness Seventies, it has to be cold
alt: oh my Seventies , hope it isn't too cold there.
Seventies : Not too bad. But the neighbors hadn't been asked to leave. So I am suspicious.
Daviss: alt did you get notices of your new dna hits ? wow Seventies
Seventies : Anyway. . .
alt: on relationships Daviss, the guy on AfriGeneas who was looking for his g-mother's age at the time of her death.... when we found her (& him) on the 1940 census he was listed as a 'great-nephew' rather than a grandson.. so who knows what the relationship was at this late date.
Daviss: no offer of another room seventies or is the boiler connected to every room awwww I see
Seventies : Yes clear across base.
Selma: So seventies any luck at National Archives
alt: yes Davis the 'new' matches came in two (2) emails from Ancestry.
Seventies : I am in LOVE with RG105! Curses Selma!! lol
Selma: I told you seventies.. LOL It is wonderful
Seventies : The microfilm on Mississippi is virtually untouched
Daviss: ok alt so I must not have any
alt: or your DNA matches just aren't members of Ancestry Daviss, or at least didn't take the test with them.
Daviss: ok
Seventies : It is a good aid on finding plantations, alternate census info and social history of the region. The records should be online. What are your thoughts. Selma??
Daviss: That would be nice Seventies
Selma: Oh without a doubt seventies...
alt: Freedman's (FB) records ... that is probably something that needs broader exposure in the AA genealogy community where the FB was operative following the civil war.... as much as other governmental records (county/state) are recognized
Selma: Archive.org doesn't have em..I don't know why
Seventies : Especially the Pre-Freedman's Bureau records. So that was my exciting find this time around. :}
alt: hmmn, I wonder if Robt. Henry Piles is in the FB records for MS..... He went to MS following the CW and became the 1st AA admitted to practice Law in MS and was also part of the Piney Woods project during reconstruction.
Daviss: what was your new found find regarding plantations Seventies
Selma: There is a Descriptive Pamphlet for it.
alt: were Blacks who went South following the CW and who got into politics considered 'scalawags' (sp) ???
Seventies : Well Daviss I found a freedman's census of blacks working on Beverly plantation/workplace where my mom grew up as a child. That was exciting. No surnames though. This was a list of workers under contract PRE-FB records.
alt: that must have been exciting Seventies .... a personal connection to a place mentioned in the records.
Selma: This area was under Union control...what was the year
alt: being able to place your ancestors at a particular place in a particular time in history is always exciting.
Seventies : 1864
Daviss: I have names on the Grimes County Texas Freedmen's Poll Tax but that darn Harrison County does not have a list :{
Seventies : So now M1914 is my go to record set.
Selma: LOL
alt: Seventies , I wonder if some of those plantations/workplaces in the pre-FB days would be found in the Southern Claims Commission records?
Seventies : Selma the Nat'l Archives page offers add'l records to review which is how I came to look at that set.
Selma: I have the Descriptive Pamphlet
Seventies : Good question alt. Now I am inclined to come again in the near future. lol
Daviss: did you say you were 4 hrs away Seventies
Selma: Is there a FHC near you seventies..or closer than 4 hours.. You can order
Seventies : Yes
Daviss: Do you have all the Pamphlets Seventies and are they listed by states?
Seventies : to both questions
Daviss: oops I mean Selma
alt: that would be great Seventies .. you can become the 'expert' of MS records for the pre & post CW time period via FB record sets.
Selma: Yes...I told you I ordered them when they were first filmed... Now I don't think they print anymore..you can download online
Seventies : FHC has these on microfilm Selma? I didn't know that.
Selma: Yes...that is how I was able to order a Miss reel
alt: Selma, are you saying that you can order these NARA microfilms thru your local FHC and have them sent to you?
Selma: Sent to the center..not your house
alt: right Selma your FHC, not your home..... who has a microfilm reader in their home other than you and a couple of others? LOL LOL
Seventies : Ok I will have to "catch" them on a day that they are open. lol lol
Selma: LOL
Khathu: Hello everyone
Seventies : ho Khathu.
Selma: Afternoon Khathu
alt: Hello Khathu , Happy New Year!!!!
Seventies : lol meant Hi!
Selma: BRB
Daviss: Hi Khathu, Happy New Year!
Khathu: alt @ I have been able to identify the mother of Henry, Richard and Texas
alt: WOW!!!!! Wonderful!!!!!
Khathu: @Seventies DAR was closed today She was owned by John R. Dorsey's father Benjamin He willed her and Henry to John in 1857. Henry was only two years old at the time
alt: Is she found on any census records Khathu?
Khathu: Unfortunately, I have not been able to find the family in the 1870 Census yet She is listed in the probate records of Benjamin Darsey
alt: ah so, she was with her (husband's) father's family and the father gave ... willed. her and her child to his son, right?
Seventies : Aw about DAR being closed. Is the government shut down in D.C.??
Khathu: Nope, the federal government is still open. they might get an early dismissal around 2 or 3 though
Seventies : I see another good story shaping up Here.
Khathu: @alt correct
Seventies : Yes I think so.
Selma: Wow.. Now that is a great end of year find khathu
alt: this story 'fits' the show Bernice had a few weeks back on some 'slave owner's being compassionate & responsible about their children.
Khathu: Benjamin's father fought in the Revolutionary War Hello Chaise
Chaise: Hi
alt: so, you can then 'connect' with DAR thru this relationship.. similar to what Michael Henderson did.
Khathu: I have also reached out to a white descendant of Benjamin Darsey
alt: Hello Chaise
Khathu: Yes, I can.
Selma: Henry, richard and Texas were Benjamin's children Khathu?
Daviss: Hi there Chaise..Happy New Years !!
Selma: Afternoon Chaise
Seventies : Hi Chaise
alt: Wonderful!!!!!!! Khathu
Khathu: No they were his grandchildren. John was Benjamin's son
Chaise: Hello all.
Daviss: Long Time Chaise!!
Khathu: And John's grandfather Benjamin Darsey fought in the Revolutionary War with his four brothers
alt: this is some GOOD STUFF Khathu.... and with documentation to back it up WOW!!!!
Khathu: I found a book that documents the history of the D'Arcy/Darsey family up to the Benjamin Sr. and his sibling. The book is well source cited
alt: another aspect colonial and pre-CW America.
Khathu: Now I just need to find out when, where and how Benjamin acquired Ann Ann was born around 1840 and was 15 y/o when she gave birth to Henry
alt: ah so.. Dorsey is an anglicized version of D'Arcy?
Khathu: I think so
alt: well, it is at least in this case.
Khathu: The white Darseys have a family reunion every August in Laurens County, GA
Seventies : Were these folks English??
Khathu: I think I will have to pay them a visit.
Seventies : LOL
Khathu: The AA family's will be hosting their reunion in GA 2014
Chaise: LOL, I'm not sure they would like that.
alt: Weren't the D'Arcy lines French and possibly of Hugenot (sp) religious background
Khathu: @Chaise with the direct evidence I have they can not deny the relationship I am not sure
Seventies : Somebody in the family knows about this believe that.
Selma: Ok having a brain freeze here...those 3 children are John's children..B
Khathu: Probably on Benjamin Jr. descendants does but I doubt that his uncles descendants that remained in GA do
alt: might check "Hinshaw" for possible Huegenot connections to D'Arcy surname
Khathu: That is correct Selma I mailed my newly found white cousin a picture of Henry, John's will and a family group sheet of her AA kinfolks. She uploaded the info onto the Darsey family tree on geni.com
alt: Wonderful Khathu
Daviss: wb Seventies
Khathu: I like the spelling of D'Arcy anyone else has anything genealogy news to share
Daviss: Not I Khathu
alt: the D'Arcy to Darsey to Dorsey transition sure makes since to me..... and the migration from up south (VA) to GA & eventually TX also makes sense. oh no, we're getting more snow.... and it's a heavy snowfall
Daviss: oh my alt
Khathu: The family started off in Calvert County, MD
alt: guess I won't be going out on the town tonite LOL LOL LOL
Khathu: then migrated to NC, GA, AR and finally TX
alt: okay Khathu MD thanks
Seventies : Wow Oh I have new photos on my Family Griot facebook page. Feel free to browse.
alt: Khathu, this means that you have very strong possibilities of African born ancestors in Colonial America at least by the time of Rev War.
Selma: Is that the area that Agnes researches.. Calvert County MD
Khathu: No quite because I am not sure when they acquired Ann who was born in 1841
Selma: Trying to think of last name.. Angela would know
alt: McCallam, (sp)
Selma: Yes..alt..thank you
Seventies : That will hold the key to finding more info Khathu. Info about Ann.
alt: so an 1841 birth date gets you back to at least the late 1820's for Ann's parent(s).
Selma: They leave MD after the Revolution
alt: and we know (?) most of our ancestors were born here prior to the embargo in 1807/08 so we're geting there Khathu
Khathu: alt on another line I have ancestors born in 1803
alt: there you go Khathu
Khathu: @Selma not before the Revolutionary War
alt: tell us what's been happening with you Chaise.
Daviss: take care folks, Happy New Year!!
alt: my turn .. Happy New Year everyone !!!!!! Later
Chaise: I've made a few connections as of late. The 1940 census has been really helpful filling in some gaps.
alt: okay Chaise, care to share?
Chaise: I found my maternal great-grandmother's family after much searching. paternal
alt: wonderful!!! where were they located Chaise?
Selma: In what state and county?
Seventies : Ok I gotta run too. Have a great day all!
Khathu: that's great same to you
alt: bye Seventies
Chaise: In Louisiana, Bossier Parish.
Selma: Chaise..is that where you expected to find them?
Khathu: I need to run as well. Have a safe and wonderful New Years
Chaise: Yes, since I did have some information about them being in Caddo.
Selma: Well congrats...
Chaise: Thank you.
Selma: Time to for me to go too... Have a great day
alt: yes, congrats Chaise