2012-12-18 • "An 'inkling' of Blacks"
Khathu: Hello Daviss
Daviss: Hello Khathu! How are you/ ?
Khathu: I'm good and yourself
Daviss: hello alt!
Khathu: hello alt
alt: HI Daviss & Khathu, hope you both are doing well today.
Daviss: I am doing well thanks much
alt: yw partner LOL
Daviss: lol lol I am doubling up on my hello's lol Hows everyones research I have just been reading so nothing to report
Khathu: No new discoveries on John Dorsey
alt: ran into an interesting situation yesterday .. I'm helping a friend clear up a mystery as to the paternity of brothers (?) born between 1852 & 1859.... one brother's family has been 'passing' since the late 1800's and the other family has always self-identified as Black, although they could easily pass should they choose to do so.
Daviss: was this Ohio alt
alt: the question was brought up by some of those relatives who are/were passing and had an 'inkling' of blacks being in their ancestry
Daviss: inkling lol
alt: Yes Daviss. Ohio & Michigan
Selma: Good afternoon alt, daviss and khathu
Daviss: Selma hi!!
alt: two men... one who is black & the other who is 'white' took DNA tests and match on so many aspects that it is almost ridiculous.
Khathu: Hello Selma
alt: Hello Selma
Selma: So are they all joining hands singing.. Say it Loud I am Black and I'm proud
Khathu: @Selma - the will does list the sons as colored in addition, the father states that they were bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh
alt: Daviss, the one guy is 94% 'Euro' & 6% African, the other is 68% Euro & 30% African.
Khathu: have to run off to a meeting
alt: ain't that a testimony Selma!!!!
Selma: Jeez Khathu...
Daviss: yep to recognize back in the day
Selma: drop that info and than ran So do these 2 families acknowledge each other alt?
Daviss: He did not have any children by wife did he?
vkn: Good howdy to all
Selma: Afternoon vkn
Seventies: Hey y'all
Daviss: hello vkn and seventies!
Selma: Afternoon seventies
alt: some are accepting the fact of black in their ancestry, others are not so accepting .. the older ones who suspected, had an inkling do, but not the younger ones.
vkn: Alt Daviss Selma
alt: Hello Seventies
Selma: Umm...they have been "outed"
Daviss: strange for the younger ones you would think they would be more open
alt: I reckon Daviss, having black i your ancestry and having it documented/proven can be a major shock to some.
vkn: as in MAJOR
Seventies: Did anyone download the book "Lord God, Here Comes the Devil" Klu Klux Klan American Slave Interviews?
alt: Hello vkn how be's ya? LOL
vkn: bees good alt
alt: not me Seventies
Daviss: I have not Seventies. Never heard of the book
Seventies: BUT we have had to deal with having forced white ancestry as African-Americans.... who cares. It was a free e-book for kindle. Y'all should get the e-reader app so you can read some of these freebies.
vkn: Who is author of book seventies
alt: just having a discussion Seventies. not going to play the 'who cares' game.
Daviss: I don't even have a kindle
Seventies: Its from the WPA narratives Stephen Ashely compiled this book.
Selma: Were these interviews done with Klan members seventies?
Daviss: oh so they pulled out some of the goodies in each state
vkn: Is there a link Seventies
Seventies: No African-Americans who testified about the KKK
Seventies: Beverly Harper posted on facebook in a few genealogy groups. let me look and see
Daviss: so alt, is this person you are helping also in your line?
alt: no Daviss, he is a cousin of Anita's.
Seventies: Get the app Daviss... Here is the link. The book is still free on Kindle. http://tinyurl.com/d7yegyf
Daviss: plus I am wondering if the guy I turned you on to, did you ever hook up? that was for you alt?
vkn: Are you getting a kindle Daviss
Seventies: Here is the Kindle App for Windows 7, XP and Vista operating systems. http://tinyurl.com/yzcqkcr There are TONS of free books on Amazon.
Daviss: not anytime soon vkn, I have a transmission to worry about now
alt: a 2nd cousin of Anita's ... yes Daviss, Mr. Wilson contacted me, but he has been too busy to really follow up with a discussion..... he still doesn't appear on my Ancestry matches by the name you gave me.
Daviss: that sure is strange alt isn't it?
Seventies: Okay wait, its only free for Prime members. But IF you get the app, I can loan it to you.
Selma: Your car troubles..sound like my appliance meltdowns over the past couple of months daviss
alt: sure is....
Daviss: yes Selma, very frustrating to a point
vkn: So now Selma everything is new?
Selma: Nothing new..focused on getting my Xmas gifts in the mail I am doing worse than I did last year..and I promised not to do that again..oh well
alt: you do have my address, right Selma?
Seventies: Well I have a meeting in a few.. so I'll talk to you all later.
Selma: Yes alt..I have your address... LOL..do you want the Power Ranger or the Singing Barney
Daviss: lol lol
vkn: So now Selma everything is new? With all the reading you do Selma that Kindle Seventies is mentioning oughta be a winner
alt: either one .... Toys for Boys LOL LOL
Selma: I have a Kindle vkn..really can't get into it..I told you I am a paper person But maybe in 2013..I will try again
vkn: Well I do understand that
alt: when do Black males become "men" .. I was reading an article about my g-father's brother who got a commission in WW I at the age of 30 and the home town newspaper kept referring to him as a 'local colored boy'!!!!!
Selma: Folks..I have to run.. Have a great day
Daviss: ok Sel
vkn: Boys to men seems only in the movies alt
alt: bye Selma
vkn: What was the geo location alt
alt: I guess vkn, but the article was written in 1918 Urbana, Ohio vkn... think I'll post to the Military Forum w/images of the articles.
vkn: Well remember it was 1964 before WE began to grow up
Daviss: good idea alt
vkn: That will be excellent to do alt on forum
alt: this kind of article 'ticks' me off when I hear bout good old days & tradition/values on today's TV and read it in the newspapers.
vkn: Now that is the truth Tradition = "when we had slaves"
Daviss: they have those ways now alt just coded
vkn: or "when colored people stayed in their place"
alt: thoughts on the 'new' Senator from SC?
Daviss: uncle new
vkn: Who is the new senator a Black publican?
Daviss: yep I forget what stupid comment he made
alt: that what I hear Daviss .. Clarence Thomas & Armstrong Williams wrapped in one.
Daviss: yep alt!!
vkn: I will check to see what The Root or The Griot has to say
alt: lets' see if he is elected when he has to run for the office.
vkn: Today I am scanning the children of Santa Barbara to post on Talking and Facebook
alt: in a State wide election great vkn!!!!
Daviss: He is straight tea party
vkn: oh he was appointed?
alt: yes, by the Governor
vkn: oh my
Daviss: just the other day vkn
vkn: I somehow missed that alt I listen less to TV
alt: you've been busy
vkn: bzzzzeeee is right Also going back through saved data for years back good stuff. Will repost some of it
alt: watch the candle vkn.... try burning it from only one end LOL lOL
vkn: lol lol lol it be burning from the middle
alt: Oops lol lol
Daviss: middle out
vkn: called equal opportunity lol
alt: I'll pass, that's too much opportunity for me.
vkn: lol lol Y'all be good
alt: you too
Daviss: and u3 alt
alt: well partner it's an early exit today, huh?
Daviss: I guess alt you get the chairs and I will get the lights
Daviss: take care