2012-12-12 • Writing A Query
Seventies: Good afternoon Daviss.
Daviss: Good afternoon to you also Seventies! You caught me reading your post regarding Ms sorry not you it was L T Hello alt!
Seventies: LOL LT's post makes sense.. the entire thread reads like some new first time researcher. Hi alt!
Daviss: lol @ Seventies
alt: hello ladies Daviss & Seventies
Seventies: Why SEVENTIES stays away from the boards.
Daviss: How are you doing today alt! well Seventies may have a point lol
Seventies: People know so d@mn much, then why post these questions... smh
Daviss: mabe they want vetrification :o verification
alt: old nosy alt wants to know.... what message & which board?
Seventies: FOR???? The question was stupid anyways. Did you pay $200 for your marriage certificate?? Why would the state want to prevent black marriages in 1874 and 1893??? THINK!! On Our Black Ancestry on Facebook alt.
alt: oh, okay .. not one of my 'ususal' reads ... thanks
Seventies: Hi Khathu
alt: Hello Khathu
Daviss: If you think about it Seventies, some folks not aware of Marriage Bonds hello khathu
alt: sounds like they have a marriage bond surety confused
Daviss: and its a shock to them
Seventies: Well then why if someone gives you valid information you scoff? Married people should be aware of the fees associated with getting married!
Daviss: not sure alt, I was just reading it..I think the original post stated $200.00
Khathu: what post are we discussing
Seventies: Moving on....
Daviss: 1871 and 1874 in Mississippi
alt: but you don't pay the 200.00 ..... only if the marriage does NOT take place, right?
Daviss: thats what I assumed alt....
Seventies: So Khathu, how is your research going?? Mine is pretty slow right now. Just prepping for this trip next week.
alt: Seventies, be a little more patient with those of us with lesser knowledge than you
Daviss: I know the bond in Ark was $100.00
Seventies: The rule I go by is, work with what you know. If you're married, you should know.
Khathu: Mine has piqued in the last week
alt: you should know the laws of each County & State for "eternity" (?)))))
Seventies: hi vkn
Daviss: hello vkn!
alt: Hello vkn
vkn: Howdy seventies and all
Khathu: I discovered a few new families, clarified some info and located a probate file on Lorenza Williams
Seventies: Oh you did! What kind of information were you able to learn about Lorenza Williams?
alt: sounds as if you're getting back into the groove Khathu
Khathu: Plan on leaving work a little early today to head over to D.A.R. before my appt at 4pm.
vkn: Howdy to one and each and all
Khathu: Just when he died 28 Apr 1926 and the value of his estate. His wife listed their daughter as the only surviving child of his.
Daviss: alt, I found a Marriage record for daughters paternal line where the father in law put up the bond
Khathu: So my quest to confirm paternity continues
Daviss: then the brother in law put up the bond for the next marriage rather the next marriage for one of the sisters
Seventies: I can see that could be what they thought at the time Khathu.
Khathu: @Seventies, especially since it was from a prior marriage/relationship
alt: Daviss, I'm not really 'up on" how marriage Bonds/Banns & surety works and why one goes thru that process.
Daviss: ok alt
Seventies: right... best of luck on the quest Khathu.
Khathu: which quest? i have tons of them
Seventies: LOL The Lorenza Williams paternity quest!
vkn: Banns to check out possible impediments
Seventies: I know the feeling.
Khathu: I also located a gg grandfather in the 1910 with his 3rd wife was it his 4th wife
alt: I just read an interesting case on heirs and who could inherit when a person had children in different marriages/relationships... some interesting stuff
vkn: Bonds to pay if he/she does not show lol
alt: right vkn, thanks
Daviss: isn't Banns just an announcement or engagement vkn
Seventies: alt one of my favorite shows is The Will: Family Secrets Revealed.
vkn: Not in my church daviss lol
Seventies: When folks have a large estate people come out of the woodworks.
Daviss: ok vkn
Khathu: Seventies the estate file I was looking at yesterday was over 200 pages from Leon County, Florida
alt: One of my best finds was because of the lack of a Will... Estate had to be settled "intestate" and much information came out about family structure.
Khathu: I am so happy it was online and I did not have to pay to have copies sent to me
Seventies: Oh BTW Khathu still looking at MS probate records.. nothing yet.
alt: that was a 'gift' Khathu
Khathu: courtesy of family search
alt: wonderful Khathu !!!!!
Daviss: pretty soon family search will have all their records online good for them
alt: The AfriGeneas Forums have kind of slowed down a bit.... hope it is just for the holidays and not a continuing trend.
vkn: ebb and flow alt. I an glad to see your message
alt: you mention D.A.R. Khathu .... do you have a Rev War connection/possibilty to check out? yw vkn.....
Khathu: Not that I am aware of alt. I go there sometimes and do research
alt: ah so..... okay Khathu, I wasn't aware of the depth of their reources.
Daviss: is it like going to a history center or library?
vkn: I see Francis Stephens is signing in after we are gone
Khathu: Yes....it is like going to a genealogy or family history library that specializes in both county and state histories
Daviss: what time zone is she in vkn?
vkn: The Tom Jefferson discussion is getting "old" no idea daviss
Khathu: they have acquired books from various genealogical societies at the state and local levels. you can browse their holdings by going to library.dar.org and if you see anything let me know and i can go by there and make copies for you.
Daviss: do they have interlibrary loans khathu? oh ok thanks
alt: yep vkn...... folks fighting over their perspective of TJ as man, politician, slaveholder, etc.
Daviss: How much are the copies Khathu?
vkn: and almost any guess is good it seems
Khathu: 10c or 25c They did not have an inter-library loan
alt: Khathu, have you ever run into Hollis Gentry at the D.A.R. library?
Khathu: I ran into her once a few years back I am just going to make a few copies of the marriage books for Smith and Van Zandt Counties, Texas
alt: is that right.. she seems like a very personable & very helpful lady.
Khathu: There are not a lot of us researching at D.A.R.
Daviss: Khathu do they have a "C" in the books or are they separate
Khathu: Smith and Van Zandt Counties did not separate their marriage records based on race
alt: I can imagine Khathu . we did some work for a local D.A.R. chapter on an AA from Urbana, OH and submitted the papers to the Library.
Khathu: They have other records and resources. I guess most people never think of them as a repository
alt: hello di
Khathu: hello di
di: hi all
Daviss: hi there di!!
alt: I know I didn't Khathu
Daviss: di I sent you message regarding DNA kits
Khathu: I only discovered them through a workshop
Daviss: well thanks for the tip khathu
alt: I figured they just had 'vertical files' on those families who were requesting membership into the D.A.R. yes, thank for the tip Khathu
Daviss: mabe they will have something on the counties I search
alt: how are your workshop plans progressing di?
Khathu: I just purchased The Slave Laws of Texas edited by Randloph Campbell and Bound Away
Daviss: I love Campbell Bound Away?
Khathu: His work is required reading for all Texas researchers I forgets the author's name but it is dealing with the migration into, within and out of Virginia
alt: I didn't realize just how big Texas and the possible expanison of slavery into the southwest & west was until recently watching some programs on the subject on C-Span.
Daviss: I do have his book A Southern Community in Crisis It took me about 5 yrs to get it lol
Khathu: One of my slaveholding family is mentioned and quoted in the book - Bound Away
alt: that's some good primary source documentation Khathu or a good resource to follow up for primary documentation.
Khathu: The documentation (letters in this case) are housed at the Moody Mansion in Galvestion, Texas
Daviss: David Fisher according to Amazon
Khathu: I have to schedule an appointment to conduct research in their archives
alt: is Moody a 'private' library?
di: slowly progressing alt...i made a flyer and i am going to take it to the library later this week since i was unable to speak to him on monday. and i am going to have a copy of the handouts and the presentation and outline to show him as well.
Khathu: W. L. Moody wrote his brother in 1853, encouraging them to come out to Fairfield, Texas due to the quality of land and cheap slaves
di: Daviss i did see the message and am still looking for the other two kits and i just talked to my mom and she said she will let me know by the end of the week if they are goign to use thier two
Khathu: Yes, it is. At the end of slavery, W. L. Moody left the cotton industry and went into the banking industry becoming one of the wealthiest 1% of the Great State of Texas
alt: wonderful di.... you're coming at this person not only with a suggestion, but a plan for implementation of your concept... that's great!!!!!
Daviss: great, di and they also have a sale on now for $99.00
di: still too rich for my blood in december,,,maybe around april. lol but i am going to defiantly send in these kits like i said i have a few floating
Daviss: I did not see when the sale will end Khathu there is a book about Banking in Harrison County but I forgot who wrote it
Khathu: okay, i will look for it
di: alt yes that was my plan, to have him give me a solid yes or no. no in betweens because the flyer is made, the press release is made for the neighborhood papers, and i thought of including the library's website in the workshop and mention of some of the books and have them in the room at the time of the workshop so the library would be tied in!
Daviss: I sure need to find it because it may give me a clue as to who paid for my great grandfathers schooling
vkn: howdy di
alt: Moody sounds like this Filson guy in KY ... In Louisville there is the private Filson Club which is very rich in KY/VA history. you got it 'going on', di LOL
vkn: Daviss would the school records show
di: hi vkn how are you doing this 12-12-12 day
Khathu: Have a great day everyone
Daviss: For some reason vkn the school records for that time are lost
vkn: hmmmmmm AME?
Daviss: no, Baptist
alt: is today (12th) supposed to be the end of the world, or is it the 21st? according to the Mayan's
Daviss: think its the 21st alt
vkn: school name daviss
Daviss: Bishop College vkn
alt: okay, good thing I got a haircut yesterday... I wnt to look nice when the end comes LOL LOL
di: alt---got me i just like that it is a repetitive date!
Daviss: make sure all your bills are paid alt
alt: I'm gonna do the Daviss LOL LOL
Daviss: you don't want to come back as a butterfly and have to wing it lol lol lol
vkn: ahhhhh okies Audrey Battiste has a wealth of books one of her grandfathers was a bishop
di: i have not said it lately but I love the AfriGeneas Family!!!!!!!!!!
Daviss: they are alright in my book also di!!
vkn: and we love you as represented in this room di
alt: I accept the compliment on behalf of the Family di ... LOL LOL LOL and back atcha
di: honestly over the years i jumped in many genealogy chat rooms never stayed or returned but here i always return. i may not be as active as i use to be but i have learned more about the site and searching it and the posts that i find!!!!
Daviss: vkn Paul Quinn (AME) took over Bishop after moving to Dallas but they did not have any records di, home is where the heart is
alt: di, on your qualification question from the other day.... I went to APG website looking for a 'professional' genealogist.... I saw some familiar names on their list that now I really question what a professional genealogist is.
Daviss: gotta run ya'all chat later
di: alt ok i guess that makes me feel better
alt: well, guess it's my time to skedaddle... y'all take care & keep on pushing di.
di: yes Daviss yes it is...and i do consider this room full of "country homebodies" in a good way because i always say this room greets everyone new as if they are in person in the south....who ya people is, where dey from! i love it will do have a good day
di: have a good day as well vkn. i am out to work on schedules