Daviss: Afternoon Selma!
Selma: Mornin Daviss...had your coffee yet Wasn't bbenn's show great last night
Daviss: I am on my 2nd cup as we type Selma. I had to buy a new coffee maker and had to make a concession I wanted another percolator but could not find one at the stores I went to
Selma: What kind of concession? You know one with a timer
Seventies: Good afternoon, Selma and Daviss
Daviss: I had to settle for a Mr Coffee Grrrrrr
Selma: Oh you mean that kind of coffee maker..
Selma: Afternoon seventies
Daviss: Hello seventies
Selma: What kind did you want
Seventies: Sorry about your coffee pot woes Daviss
Selma: Did you try to find one on line? Afternoon alt
Daviss: Oh yes Selma I really enjoyed the radioblog
Seventies: Hi alt
alt: Hi Ladies, Daviss, Selma & Seventies .. hope you are all doing well today.
Daviss: no, I should have looked online first. I think I accidentally threw my basket away and that was all I needed for my old perc
Selma: Well I have been UP for 6 hours..and daviss..for 5 minutes..so it depends what part of the day your are in alt
Daviss: lol lol hi alt!
alt: right, I'm up since 6:00 AM EST. Daviss, I got the AncestryDNA tree 'thinge'' to work last night.
Daviss: dang folks another oil rig exploded in the Gulf
Seventies: Been up since 5:15 Just read that Daviss.
alt: hello vkn
Daviss: Oh great alt!! what was the problem
alt: dunno Daviss, I was on the laptop when we talked and I had to upload a newer version of IE ... maybe that was it.
Daviss: You guys get up way too early lol lo I hit the floor after 8 AM this morning mabe so alt
alt: hey y'all,,,, Daviss found on ancestry a DNA cousin.... who happens to have some of my folks in their family tree, so I guess we're (Daviss & me) cousins of cousins LOL
Daviss: Now I have to send you an 8x10 glossy of me alt to put on your TP
alt: And some of the names in this person's tree are like my 2nd cousins..... children of my grandfather's siblings.
Selma: Told you alt was the "six degrees of separation man"
Daviss: Now alt I will send him an email to get in touch with you
alt: Bring it on Daviss.... happy to have you in the 'family"
alt: Wonderful Daviss, thank you!!!!!!!
Daviss: no problem alt Wonderful blog radio show last night
Selma: Yes it was daviss
vkn: Sounds exciting
alt: I missed it...... bring us up to speed please.
Selma: First author Dr. Powell spoke on his book the Accidental City...talking about New Orleans during the French and Spanish period
vkn: What an expert story teller and genealogist alt She had us hanging on every word
Daviss: Here is the link to Ms Scotts page http://sitemaker.umich.edu/rebecca.j.scott/publications http://sitemaker.umich.edu/rebecca.j.scott/publications
Selma: She reminded me of the first time I heard Dr. Gwendolyn Midlo Hall
alt: I'll have to listen to it after chat. thanks for the link Daviss
vkn: and the first time I heard Ed Ball
Daviss: I will buy that book
Selma: Historians..who appreciate the value of the context of historical facts and the story.. She was very excited, about her subject
vkn: Also did an excellent job to show how easy it is to follow the wrong trail and how documenting MUST be a continuing norm
Selma: Yes, yes, yes
Daviss: I think alt Bernice put up a link to listen to the show
vkn: Most passionate
alt: I have a link to her (Bernice's) archived shows Daviss.
vkn: alt you will enjoy it each time you listen
alt: Looking forward to listening vkn
Selma: Either gonna get the book..or get my kids to give for Xmas..depends on whether I can wait
Daviss: Alt you wont regret it lol Selma!
vkn: Alt she must have taken research methods from you lol
alt: Ms Selma, the "book-meister" LOL
Selma: I can't wait to see her footnotes.. LOL Sometimes the best stuff is in the footnotes
alt: Oh, oh vkn vkn 'be's' strokin' somebody ...... watch out!!!!! LOL
Selma: I am interested in their life in Belgium..and who else migrated..
vkn: ... although end notes are easier for these eyes Selma
Selma: Yes..vkn.. Many authors are doing that now vkn
vkn: I am glad even though I read little
Daviss: I wonder if you could get that book in another format vkn
alt: these are wonderful times with the information that is becoming available in so many different forms & formats.
vkn: Will ask the author Daviss indeed alt Incidentally will each of you look at the Colored Schedule in the BRAND thread and tell me how it reads in the columns across at least consider looking
Daviss: are you wanting us to go to ancestry and get it vkn?
vkn: No it is in the thread enlarging
alt: is there something that tell us what each column represents?
vkn: Yes alt a jpg with the headers
alt: okay vkn thanks
Daviss: it does not say what the numbers mean though vkn on the thread
Selma: What forum vkn?
vkn: Talked with the researcher yesterday who is toting a boatload of shame that 1829 born grand parent may have had children without wedlock
Selma: Oh for heavens sakes
alt: ain't that the truth Selma & vkn ... folks have to learn they cannot apply today's standards to the slavery period.
vkn: and youngest uses surname of BRAND but his death c says daddy is named Holifield
alt: or even be judgemental about the actions of family even today.
Daviss: wb seventies
Seventies: thanks Daviss
alt: wb seventies
Seventies: thanks alt
vkn: True alt we need threads to say that. So many want a pristine history at the family reunion
Selma: Obviously this person doesn't understand what "slavery" meant
alt: Father could have been a Holifield slave & mother a Brand slave and they lived on two separate farms/plantations
Selma: Spoke on the phone with a researcher whose ancestors fought in USCT..
vkn: lol or what being female meant slavery not withstanding
Selma: He enlisted in Norfolk...I said he probably ran to Union lines..she said Oh No I think his master let him volunteer
alt: kinda like the Isaac Hall/Hull situation hub Selma
vkn: Selma had a phone call from a lady named Wilson in Richmond seeking an AfriGeneas coffee mug of which we have none
Selma: Did we ever have a coffee mug?
Daviss: vkn I will send you the info via email for Lany
Selma: The area in which this ancestor lived..folks weren't letting folks volunteer
alt: Genealogy & DNA makes one have a constant headache Selma LOL
vkn: okies Daviss
alt: there is always.. my story, your story & the true story and they ain't always the same LOL
vkn: not letting volunteer lol I say there is A story not THE story
Seventies: okay now, did anyone read the long post in DNA Traced on FB today?
alt: okay vkn, I'll buy that.
Seventies: DNA Tested African Descendants, rather?
alt: if from Al Colbert, yes
Seventies: yes and WOW But it does bring up a good question. if you have an enslaved ancestor how can you prove relations minus the paperwork as this individual who was contacting al colber requested.
vkn: Freedom of speech is a bad boy,huh?
alt: Seventies, I think the writer doesn't understand that there can be a difference .... holes.... between evidence & documentation that can't always be connected.
Seventies: well I've experienced something similar... and well its annoying
alt: vital records weren't always available nor deeds & wills
Seventies: But it seems as if Mr. Colbert has really done his due diligence in the research.
vkn: The speaker last night pointed that out so vividly in my view
Daviss: I can attest to the DC portion on not being avail even though they were supposed to be 13 years earlier than when my folks died
alt: he has done a good job of documenting his genealogy and perhaps this woman has done the same with hers ..... she just doesn't want to accept the possibility of there being an 'overlap' which might connect them.
Selma: I haven't read the post..
vkn: The speaker last night pointed that out so vividly in my view about cant always be connected
Seventies: And that wouldn't surprise me at all alt.
Selma: What is the question alt? I think we have to be prepared to accept that not everything we want or need is available
alt: I haven't heard back from the lady who asked me about the Wilson/Studebaker connection in her family lines.... Wilson is Black ..Studebaker is white..... there was a marriage and children, but they don't connect us as relatives to each other, just that we have relatives in common.
vkn: True but hard to let some notions go Selma
alt: I think many folk don't take the time to look at when a relationship occurred and to whom it occurred in determine if a person is a relative, or just a relative of relative.
vkn: as in "we kin but not sure how"
Daviss: vkn you should have your information via email now
alt: example some of my great-grandchildren are directly related to John Legend.... I'm not and some of my other great-grandchildren are not related to him either.
Seventies: Wouldn't that be considered in a round about way collateral families?
Daviss: also did you see the dig "mo" in her letter back to Al
vkn: Thankee Daviss BTW what ever happened to Cynthia ? No words from her in a spell
Seventies: Cynthia, the MS researcher?
Daviss: Something about her computer vkn. She showed up on FB today
alt: I might ask the lady to "not confuse my ignorance with her intelligence, or vice versa" LOL
vkn: Gonna use your visa versa example alt too funny but often on point.
alt: have at it vkn
Seventies: Yeah Al's critic has been researching sinc 1994! lol
Daviss: yes but has she been researching them thar coloreds lol
alt: and in a 'blinders on, single-minded perspective" 3 guesses Daviss
Daviss: lol lol
vkn: Time to bring out "The children of Sanchez" book
alt: speaking of time .. I gotta skedaddle outs here, times up .... y'all take care.
Seventies: Take care alt
vkn: y'all be good
Seventies: take care vkn Daviss, I'ma call you later this evening...
Daviss: ok thanks
Seventies: Don't sound so enthusiastic.. lol
Daviss: lol lol lol I am enthusiastic