2012-11-15 • Demystyfying DNA
Seventies: good afternoon alt
alt: hi seventies , what's up?
Seventies: oh nothing... How are you doing?
alt: able to sit up and take nourishment,,,, as the old folk used to say & you?
Seventies: I'm doing well... Still anxiously awaiting my DCs....
alt: like the check, they're in the mail
Seventies: ready to move on to some other research in the family tree. Don't you mean like the bills? lol
alt: there's always something LOL
alt: okay, the bills
Seventies: I am really ready to put this Jack Westrope/Westhrope issue to rest. Yes, I've been looking at the same docs since last year. :}
alt: that's good tho; ,, to have enough going for you that you're not stuck on one person, family, surname, etc. hello Daviss
Daviss: hello alt and seventies!
Seventies: yes, I could've done it a while ago but well you know how that goes. Hi Daviss? How are you!
alt: yep, live & learn
Daviss: I am well thank you
Seventies: what is going on with your research Daviss? are you all caught up?
Daviss: How are you two doing?
Seventies: Ready to go back to Africa?
Daviss: yep seventies I am caught up
alt: I'm fine Daviss, thanks for asking
Seventies: I'm doing well.
Daviss: hello vkn!
Seventies: hello vkn
alt: lo vkn... you ;be;s' okay?
vkn: howdy good peeps
Seventies: Ruby Davis turned 90 this week! Well Ruby Dee as she is known by her stage name
alt: go back to Africa...... I've never been there before Seventies
Daviss: How did you all like the webnar last night
vkn: bees good alt
Seventies: I'm talking about research..lol Missed it Kindle wasn't compatible
vkn: daviss seventies
alt: I missed it Daviss, is it in an archive?
Daviss: once the kinks were out it was rather nice
Seventies: Please share Daviss
Daviss: The sound kept fading in and out not sure about archive alt, you may have to be a member of the Cali society to hear it
alt: just too much going on for me .... can't keep up with all of the programming
Daviss: However Nicka Smith is very good
vkn: nice advance for bbenn with btr and for AYW with Samford
Daviss: I heard about AY presenting..Is Bernice also vkn?
vkn: she is being given prime host spot by btr
Daviss: ? btr
alt: nice to see bbenn & ayw entering the 'main stream' in the world of genealogy
Seventies: Yes if I'm not mistaken you can feature yourself... unless something has changed.
vkn: blog talk radio btr
Daviss: not understanding Seventies, are you saying you can feature yourself on someone else's show?
Seventies: No. There was the ability to make your show a featured show on BTR. This was in the early days.
vkn: Seventies BB is being spotlighted by btr quite an honor
Seventies: ok Daviss, what did you learn from the webinar that you can share with us here today?
alt: is this because she is getting great listener responses vkn?
vkn: what webinar was that It seems so alt plus the number of participants
alt: okay vkn, I meant "numbers"
Daviss: There was a webnar presented by the Cali group that featured 23&Me and how it works
vkn: quality and quantity alt
alt: yep vkn...can't beat that combination
Daviss: They had a few slides that I wish I had that gave a breakdown of cousins etc
Daviss: I don't know if they answered the question on giving out more free kits that was what I wanted to know lol
Seventies: lol Maybe they will again.. lol
alt: hello bbenn
Daviss: hi bbenn
Seventies: hi bbenn
vkn: please read the log of tues night chat Quite a good discussion on tracing kin who pass for white Debbie is going to write a paper
bbenn: Hello vkn, alt, Daviss, Seventies
vkn: congrats again bbenn
bbenn: I really want to read that paper! Thank you!
Daviss: bbenn you were in the webnar last night, did they say if they were going to give any more free kits out?
vkn: debbie cuffey
alt: okay, thanks vkn
bbenn: They said something about a holiday promotion but nothing about a free kit.
vkn: debbie cuffey SC expert
Daviss: ok thanks bbenn
bbenn: Is Debbie planning on publishing her research?
alt: "passing' has so many different aspects/reasons and I'm sure it could be a difficult paper to write.
bbenn: I wonder if she is using a case study format for her white paper
vkn: yes bbenn she is preparing a survey to do on AfriGeneas
bbenn: Yes, it does have several very complex reasons why passing occurred...
alt: I'm having a tendency to 'shy' away from papers that deal with 'personal aspects' they seem to be too narrow.
Seventies: Is it going to be a study or a research guide?
vkn: yes bbenn her own family research
bbenn: ok I remember sharing the 1920 US Census with my mother and she pointed out to me the folks who were passing...
vkn: Well alt she has the passion and her head is on tight
alt: I/we all seem to have those experiences in our family histories and they don't make for good general guides IMHO LOL LOL
alt: not knockign it/her vkn..... just a conclusion I'm coming to about the 'rash' of papers coming out on specific situations.
Daviss: as of yet, no proof on maternal side. On paternal side it would be a miracle lol
vkn: i see
bbenn: Well, some of your DNA cousins are probably trying to figure out how they are 5% African.
Daviss: I am sure that is the case bbenn I wish they would answer me to find that out lol
alt: could be bbenn
bbenn: Well, if we can have a % European - it should go both ways. But, of course we know about the 1 drop.
Daviss: I am wondering if i should take my ic down on 23&me ic = picture
bbenn: I never put my ic up I have had great conversations with some of my European matches and we cannot figure out the common ancestor.
Daviss: so when do you spring the real deal on them bbenn?
bbenn: About the third conversation when we share our genomes.
Daviss: ok, thats not that long
alt: talking about that this AM with a cousin that has close kin folk who are passing.
Daviss: hi there vicjorob
bbenn: I believe in full disclosure...
Daviss: and have you lost any after the 3rd convo I do too bbenn but have not been able to get that far
vkn: bbenn in historical context so do i
bbenn: No, they are still hanging in there.
alt: I have documentation of white direct ancestors, but very little info on their ancestors or siblings
Daviss: thats good bbenn
vicjorob: Hello all. Was busy reading this interesting conversation
bbenn: We are working together to make the connections by comparing surnames, and locations.
vicjorob: Glad to see that debbie cuffey is still out and about.
alt: and that seems to be where the autosomal cousins come into play.... the siblings of white ancestry, not so much the direct connections
bbenn: Hello vicjorob!
alt: hello vicjorob
vicjorob: Hi bbenn alt vkn which chat was debbie in last night?
vkn: yes vicjorob debbie is determining that the line she thought passed from black to white actually died out Tuesday night vic
vicjorob: vkn - interesting! vkn - I'll check the archives then.
vkn: I will send you the link
bbenn: Hi Selma
vicjorob: howdy selma!
Selma: Afternoon everyone...
Daviss: wb alt Hi Selma!
alt: thanks & hello Ms Selma
bbenn: Nice chatting! I have to log off. Bye!
Daviss: durn it, was tying a q for her lol typing
vkn: selma howdy DRCuffey says she will engage you on the work she is doing on "Passing" etc
vicjorob: Daviss we knew what you meant:p
Selma: Oh we are talking about that Debbie.. LOL
vicjorob: Selma Is she still down your way?
vicjorob: Great. I'll try to reach her and see if we can meet up when I come down that way to do some research and take a child on a college visit to ChrisNewport
Daviss: oops gotta run folks ttyl
Selma: CNU...has become the hot school
vkn: y'all be good
Selma: Really grown since I moved here
vicjorob: Cool name, cool location. And not too far from home but not too close either
Selma: They did take over a black neighborhood..kinda like eminent domain Ummm
vicjorob: Selma - I'm not always happy about how that occurs. Hopefully they did some recompense and not eminent domain. Selma - so when does your AAGHS group meet?
Selma: There is an article that was written appeared in the VHS Journal will get you the issue and year.. Starting in Jan 2013..we will be meeting on Saturday's from 10 to Noon We have one more meeting in Dec on Thursday at 7 PM.. Folks don't want to drive at night anymore ... including me
vicjorob: Selma - great. BTW, do any of your folks do research in the Westmoreland et al peninsula counties? Selma - Now a Saturday meeting can be doable. Certainly can never make a mid-week one. Any good speakers scheduled?
Selma: Can't remember..we meet here but not all folks are from here..or research other states Hoping to get the schedule together in the next month or so
vicjorob: Looking forward to it. do you have a website?
Selma: Not really...we (or I) am in a slump.. We need younger members..I am tired... LOL
vicjorob: Understood So alt, how is your research going? Selma :} :} :}
Selma: Folks..gotta run have a great day Bye
vicjorob: You too
alt: not doing much 'new' stuff, in a period of reviewing what I have
vicjorob: Good thing to do. So much can be rediscovered
alt: you bet!!!! LOL
vicjorob: I often give myself a dope slap for overlooking such obvious things.
alt: again, you bet
vicjorob: I understand you've done your DNA testing. What are your yDNA and mtDNA haplogroups?
alt: the more you learn the more you see what you overlooked years ago
vicjorob: alt lol lol lol
alt: y-dna=I1d1 mtDNA=H3b both euro haplogroups, had to do autosomal DNA to find African roots
vicjorob: Interesting! my maternal grandfather is i1. my maternal grandmother is L3e4. My paternal father is Eib1a. Still waiting on my paternal grandmother My atDNA is varied, as is yours I assume. I'm just now getting into gedmatch. Any other sites you use?
alt: okay, I wish I had siblings & or parents to have tested
vicjorob: I tested my father, me, and my mother's half-brother.
alt: not really, I've given up on researching DNA for myself.
vicjorob: my parents are the last of their siblings I can understand. The stuff that is out there is either extremely complicated to understand or just plain misleading.
alt: I put mu contact information out there and let my 'cousins' find me if they are interested
vicjorob: Agree. The real work is actually doing the genealogy research.
alt: DNA misleading and mis interpreted
vicjorob: I'm only using the testing to help point me in a direction.
vicjorob: So true!
alt: and I was a Biology major in college.
vicjorob: lol Well, gotta run to a meeting. Seems that's all I do. Take care and have a great day.
alt: so I gave up trying to be technical with my matches and fellow genealogists bye