2012-08-30 The Black West
Daviss: hello there alt!!
alt: Hey Daviss, what's up?
Daviss: not to much alt, just looking around seeing what I can get in to
alt: oh, oh be careful with that LOL
Daviss: which is very little lol
alt: now that sounds like me.. trouble days are looonnnggg gone.
Daviss: what about you, did you cry yesterday after your rehab
alt: naw, it was easy, but tomorrow it's supposed to get tought.
Daviss: oh so you were a big boy!
Daviss: how long do you have to go through it
alt: guess vkn & folks are at FGS having 'fun" ////
Daviss: yes, I am sure lol
alt: not sure, probably until insurance stops paying for this 'bout'
Daviss: we may be the only two here today
alt: ah so, folks getting ready for the long weekend
Daviss: I am getting excited about the IBGCS I sure hope I can find something regarding my family
alt: I'll bet you are, it's right around the corner, if you blink it'll be Oct LOL
Daviss: I know shoot, it will be Sept on Sat
alt: yoou working on a research strategy, or yo planning on doing mostly networking & socializing?
Daviss: well I want to go a day ahead to visit the library. I do have one setback in that I have limited knowledge of my family in 70,80. So not sure what records to pull You know we will have our pajama session lol
alt: yes, that can be a problem.. with so much available you really don't know where to start maybe y'all will find Mariah during one of those sessions
Daviss: well, I hope so but I won't bet on it mabe I can come up with something else that I wasn't aware of
alt: well that's the place for discoveries, with all of their materials
Daviss: I am wondering if the LDS copies every durn thing in the courthouses or do they pick and choose a structured set of records
Seventies: hello Daviss and alt!
alt: I think they go for it all, but I'm sure they have a structure as to how they go about 'digitizing" a courthouse
Daviss: Hi there seventies!!
Seventies: How are my two elders doing this afternoon/morning??
alt: Hello Linda lol lol
alt: this elder is doing tolerably well, thank you & how bout you?
Daviss: I am doing great thanks
Seventies: I'm well.
Daviss: have either of you been to Utah?
Seventies: No. I have no inclination to travel any further west than I already have been. That would be to Ft. Leonard Wood, MO... hated it!
alt: not to the LDS library, but I used to go on TDY to Hill AFB,Provo & SLC when I was working.
Seventies: Daviss, do you have a connection to the Graham's of Marshall?
alt: hated it Daviss, that was in the 70's & early 80's ... they were not too receptive to "colored folks' with any kind of "juice" at that time LOL LOL
Daviss: no I do not...I jump at anything Marshall
Seventies: alt, yeah I know the feeling. I have nothing new to report today about my genealogical search.
Daviss: nor I
alt: I've been going over the Walden thread on FPOC forum.... I have Walden's from NC from the late 1700's and they probably connect to some of the folks in that thread
Daviss: I am at a standstill on everything
Seventies: I really am just going through the process of trying to tie up some of the lose ends of the family records I have... Comparing WW II draft cards to the 1940 census with those who enlisted. And their families.
alt: just received the OGS quarterly journal yesterday and they have a feature story on Lyman C. Draper and his work in Ohio of the Draper Manuscripts which is pretty interesting. that's always a good practice whe things are going slowly Seventies
Seventies: Those are the docs with your family in it right??
alt: right Seventies
Seventies: So there is some new information or perspective on these documents??
alt: both.. new to me & always get a braoder perspective when reading the manuscripts reading about a slaveowner being rejected in his request to bring his slaves into the NW territory.
Daviss: where is this alt
alt: where slavery was legally prohibited the part of the NW territory that became Ohio Daviss and the time period is 1794-1800 before statehood in 1803
Seventies: what just happened?? *sigh*\
Seventies: typo.. lol Okay, what y'all doing out in Phx?
Daviss: we are doing seventies
Seventies: I 'liked' your group's facebook page. Why didn't you tell me you all had a facebook page?
Daviss: what group, you mean Gen group
Seventies: The Phoenix Gen group. AA gen group, your group...
Daviss: Oh I thought I did.. so sorry hmmmm
Seventies: Well it looks good. Have you all decided other than AA gen, what your focus is going to be?
Daviss: hold on a min
Seventies: uh uh lol
Daviss: telephone co
Seventies: oh good!
Daviss: ok back they say its been tested and cleared so I will see soon lol
Seventies: okay excellent!
Daviss: that took more than 24 hrs you were asking about our group
Seventies: yes.. wb alt
Daviss: wb alt
Seventies: What is your secondary focus Daviss??
Daviss: me lol
Seventies: I think it would be good for you all to maybe focus on blacks in the West... getting records and such.. I would love to see more of that.
Daviss: we have a few things that we are going to work on. most of the people are not from these here parts so they are really there to help find their niche
Seventies: lol yeah, BUT there are plenty who are. PLUS, it would be interesting to trace the AA's who lived out west and now have white or hispanic descendants...
Daviss: We will also hopefully get some to become speakers
Seventies: One of my first roomates in the military was 'Mexican' but she sure looked black to me.
Daviss: the first person who called me the N word was hispanic and darker than me
Seventies: We had a few girls like that. Family lived in the U.S. for generations.
Daviss: more than likely from Texas
alt: Daviss, sounds like y'all have a group that is prime for study circles on states other than AZ, similar to what the Chicago group does.
Daviss: yes, NC, Delaware, Tn and Alabama I am the only Texas person
Seventies: I'm all for building the Black West niche, Texas and all points west. really Daviss??
Seventies: Well I guess they all just kept going and ended up in California
Daviss: even when we go to Gen Societies to hear the speakers (non AA) their topic is in other states besides Texas and or Cali
alt: I would think the Black west could be divided betwee pre-1900 & post 1900.
Seventies: I agree. Two waves.
alt: same with non-AA groups
Seventies: Many of the southwestern states didn't gain statehood until after 1900
Daviss: They have a some colorful characters who were AA here in Az along with the Buffalo soldiers
alt: AZ become a State in when ... 1912 ???
Seventies: Yes like our friend Marchbanks... :}
Daviss: I did a bit on him in fact one of his ancestors is on my page
Seventies: Although, he was from TN I'm curious as to what his ethnicity was.. Though he says he was black, I suspect with the family living so far out in the country he may have been MANY things... lol
alt: and Ft. Hauchahu (sp) has some great AA history
Seventies: Oh really? Huachuca
Daviss: home of the Buffalo Soldiers
Seventies: You guys are super knowledgable!
Daviss: We have visited as a group twice
Seventies: Nice Daviss.
Daviss: once with the old gen group and once with this one
alt: big training base for AA soldiers' in WW II ...
Daviss: yeppers and most went back to their some states very few settled in here after service now in these days there were older (much) that came here to retire in places like Sun City etc
alt: I understand there were like 10-20 thousand AA troops on that base at one time.
Daviss: I constantly look through the old newspaper articles to right about from back in the day
Seventies: Wow. I didn't know that.
Daviss: they patrolled all over Mexico skirmishes with the Indians
Seventies: Oh Daviss, are there any papers out there that would chronicle some of this information, other than perhaps Stars and Stripes?
alt: Seventies, it was one of the few (major) basic training bases for AA's during the early stages of WW II.
Daviss: none from AZ/. I get my info from the papers back east lol
alt: Seventies, go to any of the AA newspapers that were popular in the 1940's and search on Ft. Huachu (sp) Courier, Defender, Indy Recorder, etc. probably plenty of stories from there.
Seventies: thanks alt
alt: you're welcome .. young lady LOL LOL well, old dude's gotta scoot .. talk to y'all later.
Daviss: lol bye alt I did a blog on one soldier (lady) who helped to get the base to have equal treatment for the women I will find and send you the link seventies
Seventies: okay.. please do.. would love to read it.
Daviss: you may have read it already
Seventies: When did you write it? recently?
Daviss: no, its been a bit. Not sure if I did it before marchbanks or after
Seventies: ok Oh my gosh, its almost 130! I have to get back to work! I'll speak to you later.. have a good day!