2012-08-12 Brant/Brand Spelling
Seventies: Hello vkn.. I see its just us... :}
vkn: Howdy seventies No one came last night
Seventies: I saw that...
vkn: and how are you today
Seventies: I'm doing well and yourself?
vkn: Khalil Gibran Muhammed is on BookTV
Seventies: Again? :} He's been on CSpan quite a bit lately
vkn: NY Book Fair from the Schomburg and also Sonia Sanchez
Seventies: okay Sounds interesting.
vkn: it is
Seventies: Anything else new going on vkn?
vkn: Getting ready for Birmingham trying to get Precious Photos tested Peniel Joseph who is he Seventies? Frederick Harris "The Price of the Ticket" The Condemnation of Blackness by Khalil www.presedential responsibility .com A clear agenda Repeal drug laws Volunteering is an elitist paradigm Ban on assault weapons reactuvate activism heyyyyyy wb
Seventies: hey.. sorry... I was kicked off. took a little while to get back in. Peniel Joseph is an AA historian of Haitian descent.
vkn: thanx he is on this panel
alt: hello vkn,
alt: how you doing today vkn?
Daviss: hi alt and vkn!!
vkn: Daviss came in and left pronto
alt: Well Hello & Welcome back Daviss
vkn: ohhhhh there she is
Daviss: thanks alt lol vkn I went to lunch bunch by habit lol
Daviss: I have been sitting in there for about 10 mins waiting for someone to come in hehehe
vkn: How are you doing daviss
alt: vkn, what kind of help are you looking for with the AfriGeneas flash drives?
Daviss: Well, I am doing fairly well...The funeral will not be until the 17th
alt: you wil have to drive back to TX Daviss?
vkn: 3 or 4 success stories alt
Daviss: yes I think so alt.. daughter is looking into what will be the most beneficial for all of us to go
vkn: maybe the guide
alt: like in the form of a PDF document, a blog entry, a story ????
vkn: only 128 meg PDF is prolly too big More like a power point AYW is working on a power point
alt: not sure I have anything that would be of interest to the 'general' community vkn.
keli1: Good afternoon everyone, it is good to see you today!
alt: good 'seeing' you too keli1
Daviss: hi there keli1!
vkn: Daviss did you get mail from me with questions?
Daviss: I have not been in email yet vkn, will check it now
vkn: Also nice photo on your facebook page daviss
keli1: vkn, yes that is a nice photo!
Daviss: Oh yes that canyon is very moving vkn.. I have never seen anything like it. The rocks are in all shapes and sizes through out
vkn: How did you learn to panoramic daviss you be bad
Daviss: lol now vkn, you know I had a gteen in the car
vkn: lol lol
keli1: Did you all know there is a bus for $125 round trip to Greensboro, depending on where you live on the way
vkn: also known as giving credit lol
alt: is this for AAHGS keli1?
keli1: yes, leaving out of MD, VA and on to NC
alt: okay keli1, thanks
keli1: it is coming out cheaper than the train, so I hope to ride the bus! the conference price was reduced, so I hope more will register
AYWalton: Good afternoon, all.
keli1: hey there AY! good afternoon!
AYWalton: Howdy alt, Daviss---good to see you. Hey keli1 Greetings, vkn!!!!
alt: you're making them all, huh keli1, Pittsburg, Greensboro & Salt Lake City
Daviss: keli1 check this out .. It does not come through Arizona though http://us.megabus.com/
AYWalton: Hope you are all well.
alt: Hello AYWalton, good seeing you
Daviss: heyyy AYWalton!!
AYWalton: keli are you doing GRIPitt?
keli1: I am trying...saving my pennies, etc... ASALH is Pittsburg
Daviss: that bus is a dollar to three dollars state to state
AYWalton: ahhh ok asalh.
keli1: I love the megabus, I hope to ride it one day, it comes to richmond!
AYWalton: I still can't believe that they sent me an invoice for a conference that I did not attend, nor register for!
keli1: that is a crock, just send it back to them...
AYWalton: I did not even bother. Just ignored it.
keli1: I was not intending to go to NC, but want to support the new AAHGS president. It is only 3 hours from here and I don't have to drive, also will find a roommate to split the costs.
alt: y'all get your DNA questions ready for bbenn's show coming up this Thurs... she' is having the lady from 23andme on her show.
AYWalton: I was invited to be on a panel, and when I realized that participating was going to cost me a lot of money I pulled out and notified everyone a month in advance. It was going to cost me money to join, to register, to travel down, and to stay in a hotel--not to mention eat. So I let the parties know that I was not going to participate. (They REQUIRE all speakers to pay to register and to pay to join.) That was insane! I simply ignored those folks!! They have lost their minds!!
keli1: yes I am ready for the DNA show, can't wait, darn 23andme sent new updated info...more confusion
AYWalton: To spend over $500 just to speak for 15 minutes was truly not worth it.
vkn: Howdy AYW
AYWalton: yes, Bernice is pulling out the big dogs!!! greetings vkn!!!1
keli1: oh no, it is not worth it, I just want to attend one...Bernice is kicking butt and taking names, her speaker list has risen! Lisa was good the other night
vkn: My goodness AYW I blame you NOT!!!
AYWalton: and MAKING speakers pay to speak!!! They have lost their minds!!!!
Daviss: ok back
AYWalton: and to then send an invoice to someone who never atteneded, nor registered!!! Bad bad business!!!!!
vkn: totally lost their minds
keli1: did you guys see my finding I posted on facebook- the mispelling of a name...
AYWalton: and this is the oldest Afr. American historical group. Oh well... I did not see it, keli1. When did you post it?
alt: yes keli1 Brand vs Brant ????
keli1: the ladies name was Lydorianna Boyer-Worden, online it was Hydenna Werden Baya.
alt: oh no, I didn't see that one keli1
keli1: Oh Art, that was another one...Brand's, once they hit Ohio, all things changed. The ancestors were working me last night/this morning! AY, they are the oldest group, wow, I need to read a little history on them
alt: your Brand/Brant story is a familiar one of folk going 'white' & changing their surname spelling
keli1: yes, and probably for several reasons
alt: no doubt keli1,, a variety of reasons
keli1: The communication has stopped once they received my info from PA, others had not crossed back into PA.
Daviss: amazing Keli
AYWalton: Keli1 I am looking for your post on FB. just found it.
alt: within my families in the late 1800's & early 1900's 'passing' was usually associated with economics & upward mobility for the family
AYWalton: So the indexing error was with FamilySearch, not Ancestry is that right?
keli1: I posted two, one on Lydorianna and one on the Brands..AY good topic for a podcast, the MIS-spellings of names...etc...I think newbies need to realize this, and some experienced,
AYWalton: quite true.
Daviss: thats for sure keli1
keli1: What is interesting-a record creates a record-marriage log to certificate, what was from the log was the mispellings, I will verify which was wrong, I think it was familysearch, I can make a note on ancestry to correct it
alt: I posted on AfriGeneas about the terrible job of indexing done by Ancestry.com when they came out with the early States that were "indexed" & searchable by surname
keli1: good Art, I am trying to find where Lydorianna is buried, that is why I am on the hunt
alt: and then vkn gave a great link to the indexing problems of Ancestry & FamilySearch about 2 weeks ago.
Daviss: I sure have some catching up to do
keli1: same thing for the Brand's, I hope to find out more about James' father, but it is a long shot, I can't figure out how they go from VA to PA
alt: these were before 1862 keli1, were they in a border county between PA and what is now WV?
keli1: I do believe experience helps with reducing indexing errors, I would of never caught that, if I was not looking for some variation of the name, I would of kept ignoring it Brand's were in Franklin Co. PA, not Virginia, when I found them, James and Mildred were born in VA , Mildred was born in Richmond
alt: oh, okay keli1 .. you see a lot of folk moving between PA & WV-VA.
keli1: on one of Mildred children's (death record) said she was born in Richmond, father from Scotland. So its a needle in a hay stack. yes I do see that movement, why do you think that? PA to Ohio was another big one the migrating of free colored is a whole field of study itself.
alt: From the establishment of the old Northwest Territory (1787) to the Civil War Ohio was the "new Frontier" for many folks. and Ohio when it became a State in 1803 was the first non-slave State coming into the Union during that period.
keli1: opportunities and safetly had to be at the top of the list, and of course homesteading in 1862, another factor
alt: hello deannie
keli1: Art, when I was in Medina last year, I totally forgot about the Brands, totally. My mom and I discussed this morning...we only looked at the Davis stuff.
keli1: wb AY!
Daviss: wb ay
AYWalton: lol, thanks
alt: wb AYWalton
Daviss: Davis stuff lol
keli1: AY when does Geneabloggers come back on Friday's, I kind of miss them? Do you have any idea?
alt: keli1, your folks were homesteader's in both Ohio & Michigan?
keli1: Yes, lol, Davis...with one S...I know believe my Davis's might of come out of VA into PA.
AYWalton: I don't think soon---he was over extended and was basically tired to do the show. I miss it as well.
keli1: Not in Ohio, but in Michigan, Manistee and Benzie Counties
AYWalton: I enjoy the Blog Radio shows.
alt: oh, okay keli1, in Michigan were they in the lumber business?
AYWalton: and they are indeed attracting an audience for sure.
keli1: farmers and loggers
alt: okay keli1
AYWalton: so glad that Bernice is bringing in speakers of all backgrounds to her show. And folks are paying attention out there in genea-land.
keli1: a while back I posted some of the logging pic's, the historical society would love to have them, but will get them when I pass on to a higher place. Yes, what is curious is how to tell how many are listening, I can see the number in the chat, but isn't there more than just what is in the chat? I love her new webpage
alt: keli1, why not post those images on the AfriGeneas Precious Photos section?
AYWalton: it is quite professional looking!
Daviss: I will miss another of her shows but will check them when I get back
AYWalton: yes you can always get the archived version of the show.
keli1: I will do that Art, good idea. it is expensive to preserve these photos, I do about one or two a month...
AYWalton: well going to run folks. Have a good day.
alt: Precious Photos is a great, inexpensive way to share those photographic gems of ours with the larger community.
keli1: shows the work our folks have done in building the communities they lived in as well..
Daviss: easy to load also keli1 I need to put a few more in
alt: exactly keli1 & yes Daviss the upload procedure is very easy to follow.
keli1: I think I loaded a couple of unknown ones last year...but will upload some more, need to keep sharing the stories...then will post to fb, etc, to draw more to the site, good idea..great marketing Art
alt: marketing .. that's the genius of vkn, BJ & others keli1
keli1: well all I need to go eat...and get back to my grant stuff, enjoy your day
alt: must be quittin' time LOL LOL
alt: y'all take care & welcome back Daviss