2012-07-15 Verifying Sources
vkn: Good Sunday Morning to all Take a look at the beta "PreciousPhotos Give us your feedback and test the upload feature wth a vintage photo or three http://www.afrigeneas.com/preciousphotos_new/index.cgi/gpage/1/md/read/id/54 Thanx so much for any and all suggestions. Out thinking at this point is to have three galleries 1,1790-1940 2. Gallery of vintage "UNKNOWNS" 3. Gallery of currents 1950-present including Family Reunions Take a look at the beta "PreciousPhotos Give us your feedback and test the upload feature wth a vintage photo or three http://www.afrigeneas.com/preciousphotos_new/index.cgi/gpage/1/md/read/id/54 Going now to edit the logs for the past week
di: good morning
vkn: Howdy di and how are you What did the research yield since last we met? Do you have vintage photos to share from AfriGeneas/
di: nothing much. not right now i have to get them when i go back down south. i have to rescan. i lost most of the data on my computer
vkn: Howdy Selma http://www.afrigeneas.com/preciousphotos_new/index.cgi/gpage/1/md/read/id/54
di: hello selma
Selma: Good morning vkn and di..you folks are here might early
di: yeah i am just passing thru
vkn: well gotta get started lol
vkn: All praises for being able to start lol
Seventies: good morning all!
Selma: Good mornin seventies
Seventies: hi di, Selma and vkn How was everyone's week?
vkn: Good morning seventies
Selma: How was your trip..or are you still tripping seventies.. LOL
vkn: Check out the beta PreciousPhotos http://www.afrigeneas.com/preciousphotos_new/index.cgi/gpage/1/md/read/id/54
Selma: I just looked vkn..looks great
vkn: Thankee Selma now on to the uploads and testing seventies share trip away
Seventies: I'm taking a short break.. stayed the night in NYC as my flight came in late last night.
vkn: oh i c
Selma: I figured you drove
Seventies: Well, family reunion went well. I also spent some time at the courthouse. Plugged Afrigeneas
Seventies: Found out that every spring college students are moving old court records to the Historical society. That worries me
Selma: Had the records you were looking for been moved?
Seventies: I couldn't find them at the courthouse, but they hadn't been sorted out at the Historical society.
vkn: I am on the fly. Had a BENHAM thingy yesterday to welcome member from Afghanistan. Some are stopping in this morning to do the genealogy thing!
Seventies: that sounds wonderful vkn.
Selma: Glad they made it home safe vkn
vkn: Seventies not to worry about move seventies. Better than court tossing them
Selma: Which is the case in some courthouses as they compete for space
vkn: Plus it will give a much needed activity for th society to do so everybody wins in that instance Will be postng queries from prisioners this afternoon on a locality basis oops Inmates ibeen sitting on them for about a year
vkn: I agree ol lol not sure of much help to the individual but it may make a connection
vkn: lol not sure of much help to the individual but it may make a connection to someone in the general public
Selma: still ummm
vkn: Beside I am downsizing much of the archives I have been toting around for years
Selma: Interesting post on the emancipation of slaves at age 28... I was planning to dig out my book on laws of emancipation in VA in that time frame..
vkn: yes it is interesting and good to have that conversation going
Selma: But it works to the emancipators advantage..all children of the females born prior to emancipation continue to be property of the owner
vkn: wonderful Selma oh dear. There is no "pretty" to slavery
Selma: You can make your self look benevolent and still profit...
vkn: The "But he was a good master" stories concerm me
Seventies: reading the slave narratives Selma?
Selma: No posting on one of the forums
Seventies: oh okay. I haven't really been on Afrigeneas while I was in MS.
Selma: What no daily "afrigeneas fix"
vkn: Which comes first, Selma benevolent or Christian ?
Seventies: lol no I was on my Courthouse fix.. lol
vkn: Howdy alt how you be
Seventies: hello alt
alt: wow, hello all ... di, Selma, Seventies & vkn
Selma: Morning alt..you're late.. LOL
alt: Naw, y'all started early, like 11:00 AM LOL
Seventies: I did pull the 1868-1870 colored marriages for Adams co. so I'm excited about getting those records. And I also took images of the WW I Vets plaque at the federal court house
Selma: Oh you were really working seventies
vkn: Trying to be on time alt Seventies that is so great Gotta run
alt: wow, caught up reading the log.... you;ve been busy Seventies & Selma, yeah the emancipation process is interesting.
Seventies: yes I was Selma.. it looks like hundreds of blacks got married at that time.
alt: Seventies, were the early (1868) marriages inclusive of slave cohabitations?
Seventies: What I really want to do is go do D.C. and get into RG105 and look at M1907. I hadn't really looked at them in detail yet alt. Sometimes when I go to the courthouse, my only goal is to photograph the records for research later because there are so many of them and time constraints.
alt: I understand Seventies ... so much information and so little time.
Seventies: I did upload them to my computer because my camera was full of images.
alt: I gues that is an advantage of today's in-house research .... digital cameras, scanners & phones that take pictures.
Seventies: The digital camera is great and the fact that you can add additional memory using a memory card, up to 32GB now. And with minimal exposure of the records and minimal handling.
alt: question for y'all ..... is my using examples of records (images) in my postings on AfriGeneas a turn-off, or do they help demonstrate the point oof the discussion.. I hope it is the latter.
Selma: You can order those reels thru the FHC seventies..if there is one near you
Seventies: Ok I have to get going to catch my train upstate... see y'all later.
alt: take care Seventies
Selma: Not to me alt...confirmation that a record exists..
alt: that's what I was hoping to hear Selma, but you understand the process of 'show & tell"... many posters just 'talk' about the records and don't give examples of what they are talking about. sure got quiet... what's up? LOL
Selma: LOL Trying to do 10 things at once..
alt: oh my.. good luck with that Selma.
Selma: Never works well.. LOL
alt: it doesn't work for me.
Selma: Not only that the images gives folks an idea of en what a record might look like, even though it might be different in their state or community
alt: The 'verifying sources' thread on AfriGeneas I think is going to cause some of the research on Finding Your Roots to be questioned.
Selma: and the information provided might be different
alt: exactly Selma... different situations for many States. I think the FYR episode on John Legend has some 'holes' in it with the Polley connection.
Selma: Then why don't you do a posting on it on the forum
alt: I did.... that is the 'gist' of the 'verifying sources' dialogue between Doug Harger and myself.
Selma: Oh..Ok ..sorry.. Will have to go and reread
alt: I'm not saying it (FYR) is wrong, but there are some questions brought to the surface by multiple marriages, step-children, etc. it's a 'who's the daddy' thing and even some of the main players give conflicting information. LOL
alt: how's your weather? we've been pretty cool this past week.
Selma: Past week was good..but things heating up yesterday and today Had some thunderstorms yesterday..even a tornado over onthe eastern shore yesterday
alt: off the top of your head... Do you know if Evansburg, VA is near Lynchburg, VA?
Selma: What county is evansburg va in?
alt: dunno yet... I have a couple that have Lynchburg connections, as well as Evansvurg and was just wondering if they are somewhat close to each other geographically.
Selma: I googled evansburg virginia and got evansburg pennsylvania?
alt: that may be the case PA, rather than VA.
Selma: What is the surname in Lynchburg?
alt: Merchant is one of the surnames', Anthony is the other
Selma: How far back do they go in Lynchburg? I have some Lynchburg material that is where my father in laws family was from
alt: Merchant, maybe 1831 or little further back. ah so, okay
Selma: Were they free or enslaved...were they in Lynchburg after 1865
alt: not sure about free/enslaved .. earlist connection is a James Merchant & Tobitha Fields ca 1810 and their son Thomas Merchant born ca 1831 in Lynchburg
Selma: Was Thomas still in Lynchburg in 1870..he would have been around 40
alt: not sure, Thomas died in Franklin Co, OH in 1909.
Selma: Hold on I will be right back
Selma: Ok back..let me see what I have Ok I have the book Free Blacks of Lynchburg VA 1805-1865 by Ted Delaney and Phillip Rhodes..transcription of register..ton of Merchants
alt: okay, I'll have to get with you on those folks.
Selma: Have a Thomas Merchant age 10 in Dec 1844, son William and Martha Merchant ordered to be registered..on 10/06/1845 (plus other siblings Mary Frances age 2 and Judy Ann born 1845)
alt: wonderful, have to get with you on those folks.
Selma: on 11/03/1834..have a Tabitha Merchant, wife of Garner Merchant, and infant son Thomas Merchant...being registered..the family before them are FIELDS
alt: that sounds like the family ..tabitha/tobitha is in my files with James Garner's namemay have been James Garner as the and Tobitha have a son named Thomas in my records, Thomas was born 17 Dec 1831 according to my records. And Tabitha's maiden name was Fields
Selma: Where is your info coming from? The James and TAbitha references
alt: Ohio records.. Thomas is in Ohio and married by 1880. He is in Fayette Co., Oh=H with wife and two children by 1880
Selma: Ok well send me the info I will dig thru what I have I am a pack rat.. LOL
alt: Census & OH DC's have information on Thomas' parents see, this is an example of how I get myself into this kind of stuff... metion a name to a person with lots of stuff and 'off we go" LOL LOL
Selma: LOL There is a cemetery in Lynchburg called the Old City Cemetery
alt: but this is good..... I need to follow Lynchburg & Bedford connections on VA as this is where my Allen lines originate.
Selma: Turns out there are lots of Free Blacks buried there..they have a website..there are MERCHANTS buried there. Well I have the Free Negro Register for Bedford I don't see a TAbitha buried there...or at least not listed inthis book Were your ALLEN's free?
alt: I'll have to get with you on the Bedford, VA family lines Charles Allen was freed following the War of 1812, exactly when I don't know, but he was in Ohio by 1837.
Selma: Ok I will check later..don't feel like going up the steps again.. LOL
alt: His son Peter Allen was born ca 1820 in Bedford Co., VA.
Selma: So he was still in Bedford in 1820
alt: and I've got to run... Anita wants to go Casino-ing in about an hour.
Selma: Ok..have a great time win some money. Bye di
alt: lets hope so.. LOL