2012-05-31 A Last FL Slave Ship
Selma: Afternoon alt..
Seventies: Good afternoon alt & Selma
Selma: Afternoon seventies
Seventies: How is everything going today?
Selma: Going pretty good and you?
alt: hey Selma & Seventies how y'all doing today?
Seventies: doing well. I have been following Wilimington on Fire the facebook fan page. And so far there is a lot of good info coming out on the documentary Doing well alt. How are you?
alt: feeling nostalgic.... put Anita & my HS graduation photos on Facebook... can you believe 55 & 60 years out of HS .... Wow!!!! LOL
Seventies: WOW That's longer that I've been alive! lol
Selma: Wow is right.. LOL Ok seventies..rub it in.. LOL
alt: God is good!!!!!!
Seventies: I cringe at being out of HS for just over 20 years... lol lol
alt: hello Daviss.. how goes it?
Daviss: hi there alt, seventies and selma!
Seventies: Hi Daviss...
Selma: Mornin daviss
Daviss: its going alt!
alt: Seventies, you know the altenrative to getting old? I'll take getting old
Selma: What is California Roll
Selma: Shows you how "current" I am. LOL
Daviss: the grands love sushi..I cant get with it
alt: me too Selma, woulda never guessed it.
Selma: Now if you had said "tootsie roll"..I woulda known
Seventies: Its the Americanized version of it. Crab meat (cooked), sliced cucumber, Avocado and wrapped in seaweed and rice. LOL
alt: y'all sho nuff laying some good stuff on the lady researching Hezekiah Russell & his descendants.. she should be thrilled!!!!
Seventies: Once I ate a raw sushi... OMG Let's just sayI was hopping all day. Who is that? Where is that?
Daviss: She sure should alt you should have seen something thru your mail list seventies
Selma: When "she"..is she a she?..anyway they came into the chat Tuesday night, she kept talking about DC..but infact the person is in MD kent County in 1820
Seventies: No.. I don't think I'm subscribed to the mail list. Oh that issue
alt: yep Selma MD vs DC ... I thought it was a she, I could be wrong.
Selma: Its important to be specific that has impact on what you are looking for
alt: it sure does Selma one big lesson from this exchange.... FPOC records are 'plentiful' in both the US & Canada and if you're serious you can find them.
Daviss: looks like Lisa and others found them for her/him hi vkn!!!
vkn: Howdy all y'all
alt: plentiful.. in the sense that they are the same records used by 'white' genealogists in their US & Canada research.... vitals, land, census, directories, etc.
Seventies: Hi vkn
alt: Hi vkn
Selma: Afternoon vkn
Seventies: Did anyone read the article about the last Africans in the Florida Keys?
alt: so it ain't 'magic'.
Daviss: not me seventies
alt: me neither
vkn: Howdy Selma Seventies Daviss alt
Daviss: howdy back vkn!
Seventies: gettin it now.. I should've come prepared, huh? lol
vkn: Seventies where was the article seventies
Daviss: In all that feedback, has there been a response back from Easy
alt: is this the last "original" Africans & what is the time period? I don't think so Daviss .. re; feedback from Easy
vkn: Was it a beached ship seventies
Seventies: Aw shucks.. now I can't even find the darn article!
Daviss: ok alt..the reason I asked was she was a newby to chat and I wondered if they were on the mailing list
alt: and I thought she/he said they had just found Afrigeneas.
Daviss: wb seventies
alt: perhaps not familiar with the 'routine' of being helped yet.
Daviss: right! did you find the link seventies?
Seventies: http://www.melfisher.org/exhibitions/lastslaveships/africanskw.htm Yes! lol
Daviss: ok thx
Seventies: Here's another clip from Wilmington on Fire. This researcher Kent Chatfield put together public documents to show how this event took place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbE0R2-kzD4&feature=youtu.be
vkn: Thanx seventies i have read of the circumstances previously. Event happens after the ship landed at Mobile
alt: nice feature on Key West Seventies .. the list of supplies is fantastic!!!
Seventies: okay. Yes it was pretty interesting alt.
vkn: The Clotilde is touted as the last slave ship but the link you posted puts that in dispute, Seventies
Seventies: I think that it is ironic that the Marshal was named Moreno.... This is something that was posted on facebook and I just couldn't pass up sharing this with you all.
vkn: I am so glad you did
Daviss: I am curious about the auction off of the collection that Montague had. Did they find a place to house it yet rather to buy and house
Seventies: Good question Daviss. Hadn't heard anything about it except it was in storage.
AYWalton: Good afternoon, all.
Daviss: Afternoon AYWalton!
AYWalton: Howdy alt, Daviss, Selma, Seventies
Seventies: Hi AYWalton
AYWalton: greetings vkn!!!
alt: hello AYWalton, good afternoon to ya.
vkn: Howdy Doody AYWalton !!!
Selma: Afternoon AY
AYWalton: hope you are all well.
Seventies: Doing great.
AYWalton: that's good. what's new with folks? I am finally getting rest (more or less) from last week's trip.
vkn: Glad the bod is getting a break AYW
Seventies: That's good. Nothing much is going on here. Just sharing a few links with the group
Daviss: you are off again next week arent you AYWalton?
AYWalton: of course I am dealing with a mild case of allergies/postnasal drip turned into bronchitis. But it is getting better. Yes, and off to Philadelphia on Saturday, but that is a 1 day trip. And then on June 10, off to Birminham.
keli1: good after noon cousins!
AYWalton: howdy keli1
vkn: Howdy Keli long time Wassup?
alt: hello cuz keli1
Selma: Hey AY...glad to hear you are recovering from trip
Seventies: Hi Keli1
Selma: Afternook keli
AYWalton: yes, recovering from one and preparing for another.
keli1: nothing much, just thinking of what other genealogy challenge I have to deal with
Daviss: hello there Keli1!
keli1: hey Daviss...
alt: there wil always be something keli1
keli1: well a few sticking in my back...need to go away
AYWalton: some new challenges, keli1?
vkn: Someone posted that FL was indexed Not so in my searching
keli1: no not knew ones, just the same ones, I might have to conclude the info is just not there
Selma: or yet to be discovered keli..
Seventies: I do know you can search FL on family search, vkn
AYWalton: FL is indexed and searchable, now.
vkn: hmmmm will try again seventies
Daviss: It is searchable but not fully
AYWalton: on Family Search site it says that it is searchable.
Seventies: Yes I was searching for some Callins
vkn: thanx ayw
keli1: that is for sure Selma, I will put on hold for a while and then pick it up again
alt: indexed does not always mean searchable vkn... browsable, but not searchable as we are now used to.
Daviss: not indexed just searchable
AYWalton: I look at the map on FamilySearch.org
vkn: gotcha alt
vkn: aaaaahhhh ok
AYWalton: hover your mouse over the state and the status ...the status will appear.
vkn: I have been taking the lazy way out but I will test the hovering
Selma: LOL That doesn't sound like you vkn.. LOL
keli1: I haven't indexed in a few days, so feeling a bit guilty
alt: I've gotten lazy vkn,,, waiting for what I call indexed & searchable
vkn: Getting tired Selma stuff be catching up with me lol
AYWalton: One thing I have felt while looking at 1940 census is a tiny bit of sadness, because many of the folks living in the 1930s had died---this is the first year that many who were born enslaved were now gone. so the tie to those who survived slavery had ended. the gr. grandparents were gone---except for Sallie---who lived till 1961. She was born during the Civil War years. Keli1 are you still indexing?
vkn: Yes my grands were all deceased pre 1930
keli1: oh good point AY, it is sad, but happy for most of our parents, to be seen yes still indexing
Selma: Still haven't found my Mom..waiting for NY to be complete
alt: true AYWalton , I have many born int he 1850's & 1860's who died in the decade between 1930 & 1940.
AYWalton: I have my mom, but not my dad.
Selma: You still haven't found your Dad..I was about to ask
keli1: i got both of mine, dad was born in 1924 and mom 1930, but after the 1930 census was taken, so she showed up in 1940
AYWalton: I know he was in the same city he was in 1930, but I guess he was part of the undercount.
alt: parents and some friends keli1 LOL LOL LOL .....
keli1: selma what are their names
Selma: You mean my Mom keli?
keli1: yea, in case I index that area
Selma: The surname is HOSTEN
vkn: Dad 1876-1938 Mom 1892-1974
Selma: When she was visiting..she gave me the streets that she thought she was living on..but did not see.
AYWalton: Did you all see the Forensic Genealogy Institute?
keli1: oh yes, I would love to take it AY
Selma: Did find some cousins living on West 116th street..
AYWalton: Also I see that SLIG in Salt Lake is now open for registration, or will be.
keli1: Selma where in NY?
Selma: In Manhatten
vkn: Forensic is where the money is ayw
Selma: I looked at my neighborhood where we moved in the 1960's..it was just about all Italian in the 1940's
AYWalton: some of those folks are making mega bucks. No Afr. Am presenters this year, but I hope they will have some for next year, since they are holding the Afr. American track at SLIG. It is interesting Selma to see who was living in your house before your family moved there.
alt: so you get to see the changing demographics of your neighborhood, huh Selma?
Selma: Found the apartment buidling where I grew up in the 1950's in the Bronx too
keli1: okay,will let you know if I get one in Manhattan
Selma: I like indexing..
alt: hello HistoryBuff
Selma: Afternoon Historybuff
vkn: Howdy HistoryBuff
AYWalton: Hello HistoryBuff
Daviss: hello HistoryBuff
HistoryBuff: Hey Alt, AYWalton, Daviss, Keli1, Seventies and Vkn.
Selma: Yes about the changes alt..
keli1: hi Historybuff
Daviss: Loved that picture of the google truck AYWalton
AYWalton: ahh that was too funny!
Selma: The neighborhood in the 1960's was heavily Italian when we moved there in the 1960's..Bakery and Pizza Palors on every blook on White Plains Road
AYWalton: I saw that vehicle 3 times that day!
vkn: Sounds like a good session from blogradio 2nite Is it a repeat? Bernice is getting really good press
AYWalton: First at Sam's Club, then at Starbucks, then at a red light!
Selma: Yes..looking forward to tonight vkn
Seventies: back. Hi HistoryBuff
AYWalton: so I had to take a photo since I use Street View all the time, and I wanted to know how their camera worked!! It is a series of cameras in a sphere. she is really bringing in great guests as well. she is booked into the fall.
Seventies: Selma you used to live near white plains road... ??
AYWalton: and folks call and ask to be on her show, now.
HistoryBuff: Hi back 2 U Seventies.
Selma: Yes.. on 217th street
Seventies: wow. Not my stomping grounds, but definitely know a little something about the area.
vkn: It is wonderful ayw
AYWalton: tonight she had a descendant of William Grimes, author of the first slave narrative.
Selma: I am a Bronx girl seventies.. lOL
HistoryBuff: While I appreciate all of Bernice's BlogTalkRadio sessions, the cemetery preservation is the one that's my ears burning.
Selma: Kelly Street and 217th..you can't get more Bronx than that
AYWalton: that was a good show.
Seventies: ah huh. My cousin lives in the Bronx.
AYWalton: well I am going to run, folks. Have a great day everyone.
alt: I'll be listening to the show tonite, if I can stay awake... it will be interesting to hear how they know it was the "first" slave narrative.
HistoryBuff: Good question, Alt.
Selma: Probably from the publication date alt
alt: 'first' & "only' are two words that scare me when speaking of things in an historical perspective.
HistoryBuff: How so, Alt?
alt: I like one of the first and one of the few. just for accuracies sake.
Selma: Well folks I have to run..hopefully will see you all tonite..if I can stay awake too.. LOL
Seventies: Nite Selma
alt: takec are Selma
Selma: Have a nice day
vkn: lol selma me too
HistoryBuff: Has the Grimres narrative been compared to William Grant Still's documents?
Seventies: Let me go. I have to scan those newspaper clippings... lol I'll be posting some on facebook. :} By request
alt: Still of the UGRR? his 'stuff' is later Seventies
Seventies: See y'all tonight, mayve
HistoryBuff: Yes that's whom I am referring to, Alt.
vkn: Daviss is Grimes a repeat?
Daviss: not that I know of vkn
alt: okay HistoryBuff .... Still's work is more from the 1850's & later.... this narrative is dated 1824 I think.
Daviss: I am waiting on the show with pearl alice
alt: that would be a great show "Pearl Alice"
HistoryBuff: Okay, thanks Alt. I'd be interested in the comparative research of Still and Grimes. Pearl Alice?
Daviss: yes alt it will be
alt: vkn, I would like to hear Hasker Nelson... he did a weekly Black show on Cincinnati TV for 25 years before he retired in 1999 ... a true Black media personality.
vkn: Pearl is on the mailing list and so is Hasker
Daviss: she will be on the show in June or July.. I need to check back with her
vkn: I will chat with Hasker about blog radio
alt: and Hasker book on interviewing techniques for Black folks is really a classic.
vkn: alt the book is out of print
HistoryBuff: Daviss I was impressed with your posting of Caivin R. Hicks today. I'm sorry that I'd not heard of him before.
alt: right vkn..... wish he would re-publish well y'all it's skedaddle time for me... talk to you later..... bye
Daviss: yes History into the other link you will see other images
HistoryBuff: Cya Alt.
vkn: I have the dvd of Hasker interviewing his mother
Daviss: later alt thats nice vkn
vkn: good to hear re sistuh1 daviss
HistoryBuff: Is that scene part of a documentary, Vkn?
Daviss: yes vkn..
vkn: No it is not HB
HistoryBuff: Oh okay.
vkn: See you beautiful peeps tonight
Daviss: I better go and figure out how I want to fry mashed potato left overs HistoryBuff talk later