2012-04-30 Black Schools
daviss: hi there!!!
AYWalton: Hey there Daviss!!!!!!!!!! how are you today?
AYWalton: I see you are the only one here so far!
AYWalton: Oops you got bumped already? how odd. you will have to ask the tech folks to watch you as you log into a chat or something. have you updated you java script? usually there is a message from time to time to update it.
daviss: and I just checked my Internet real quick and there was no down alert
AYWalton: so odd.
daviss: Java is updated I was on Discuss Forum with a lady this morning and hoped she would meet us in here
AYWalton: something could be odd in your area, perhaps. oh that's nice. you might have to talk her into how to find it.
daviss: could be something here.. I left a post
AYWalton: I see. What area was she researching?
daviss: Ms. I saw that in 1900 and 1910 the presumed mother was 75 on both
AYWalton: Wow I just looked at the marriage record that you shared with the lady on that thread! That was amazing!!
daviss: the child she was searching was 15
AYWalton: where did you find that wonderful document?
daviss: kinda old for 75 but now that i think about it, she may have been 65 I think if she gets several of the kids dc she may find the answer she seeks I found that on Ancestry
AYWalton: and since she does not know exactly how to map her research plan, she is a little lost, but you helped her indeed. that was great!
daviss: also she needs to look in SC where the mother was listed as born
AYWalton: I wonder if we might want to start giving "live tips" for threads like this! How wonderful that you helped her. She needs some tips however to make sure she stays on track. I do hope she pops in.
daviss: I put the link in my post
AYWalton: I might ask vkn if some video tips might be useful for complicated, but solvable problems like this---if I can use the threads as a start off point.
daviss: good idea AYWalton
AYWalton: We always have beginners coming into our midst every day and this is exactly the kind of help that they want to have. You helped her a lot though. She was focused on the community where they lived---which is always a good starting point. But there are always clues on those documents---like the mother being born in SC.
daviss: right and old enough to be listed there in 70, and 80 1870,80
AYWalton: exactly! and many folks left SC after freedom, seeking a new life in other places. and Mississippi was a destination, although many of us don't really know this.
AYWalton: For many of us born in the 20th century, Mississippi and other deep south communities were places of horror---lynchings, blatant horrific racism, and they were places to flee from, not flee to. But in the 1800s Mississippi was a destination. we have to be flexible in our thinking and how we analyze things. there is a temptation to see life through our own 20th and 21st century filter.
daviss: and of course those happenings were prevelant in all areas they fled to wow and some folks look at it as oh well get over it
AYWalton: quite interesting. I hope she does try to come in.
daviss: well it has been about 30 mins now so I don't know I did email vkn to move thread over to Gen Hist..Others may chime in there
AYWalton: perhaps an email follow up will be a good idea. greetings vkn!!!!!! howdy Mizz Selma!
daviss: No one hardly goes to Discuss but me lol lol
AYWalton: hold on---phone
daviss: Hi there vkn and Selma!
Selma: Good afternoon folks..AY, daviss and vkn
vkn: Heyyyyyyyyyy AYW Daviss Selma all y'all !!!!!!!!!
daviss: early morning for me lol but thats alright! lol
vkn: daviss we will be moving discuss to talking
Selma: Oops sorry daviss..good morning
daviss: oh ok. That discussion was Gen related though so it should be on another forum I also put a link to meet me here but......
vkn: I am just finishing breakfast Doing a book club in this complex and Skip Mason immediate past president of APhiA will launch the first session
daviss: thats great vkn...
Selma: Jeez vkn..you got time to actually READ a BOOK
vkn: Will discuss the Wilkerson booka and Skip has issued mini books on most Atlanta communities lol@ Selma Actually Selma there is a resident here from Richmond VA who is the leader I only do behind the scenes
Selma: The Wilkerson book is great
daviss: It sure is Selma and to top that off she is the speaker in Utah at the Summit
vkn: We are going to listen to her speak Some here went to see her when she launched the book in Atlanta
Selma: Yes, I have heard her speak on Book TV a couple of times.. I am not going to make it to SLC
vkn: I posted a link to the talk she did at WGBH in Boston Oh too bad but you will do NC Selma
Selma: Like I said I have not choice.. Tamela is now president.. LOL
vkn: lol lol and the same with AYW lol
Selma: I am going to Samford..in June
daviss: How did you enjoy the Roots show last night?
Selma: It was good..
vkn: ahhhhhhhh maybe we can lunch are you coming via Hotlanta
Selma: Oh actually I am I will check my schedule
daviss: the only thing that irked me was that skip kept going back to him and his family He could have spent those mins on the guests lol
Selma: Glad to see Frazine
vkn: David Paterson i s here for a week doing research at Emory for his Jan 13 publication Hope ti dine with him
daviss: yes that was nice
Selma: Oh...good for hime..hope you all will get together
vkn: Yes that was a surprise and pleasure to see Frazine I hope so too Selma BUT he is on deadline
Selma: Hey he still has to eat.. LOL
vkn: I reckon
daviss: ok back I was struck by Ruth Simmons and her story
Selma: yes..me too daviss..what an incredible life journey
vkn: Selma I would like us to review logs seeking unanswered quest, misinformation and info to be modified on a periodic basis with you as the Maven
Selma: Ok..we will talk about his right
vkn: yassum idea is just rolling in head
Selma: daviss..Simmons was born in Rural Texas..and then moved to houston as a child?
daviss: Grapevine to be exact lol
vkn: Sadonya and I talked this morning she has offered/agreed to do a five day a week seek to find chat from 4-6 daily 5 in the chat
daviss: I saw that Selma. Do you remember her maiden name
Selma: I don't understand what you just wrote vkn.. Was it Stubblefield?..going to listen again
vkn: will xplain when we talk Selma
Selma: OK vkn..
daviss: I was wondering if she were related to Ruth who was also researching in Tx
vkn: Electra says she is from the original Stubblefield group
Selma: Her story and her siblings showed what an education can do for a person
daviss: Historically Black Colleges
vkn: Determined parents
daviss: I wonder where she went H-town has Texas Southern
Selma: She went to Dillard in New Orleans..
daviss: awww ok
Selma: She is stepping down in June 2012...ugh
vkn: Well I wish they could all say something other than "WOW" there must be a Thesarus somewhere lol
Selma: She will remain as a Professor
vkn: Prof is easier Prez is too politic ahhhhh Dillard
vkn: Someone was speaking of Milton and Yates last week many of those students go to Dillard
vkn: in Houston Daviss
daviss: I know Yates but not Milton My mom went to Yates
vkn: Highly competitive daviss
daviss: Douglas I remember also
vkn: ahhhhhhhhh Dawson was principal of one his daughter was my college roommate
AYWalton: wow the world is so small.
vkn: What year for your mother daviss
daviss: had to be in the late 30's I imagine. Not really sure
vkn: Indeed it is AYW her grandparents founded a provate school in Tougaloo MS for Black students cannot recall name of school
Selma: AY..we missed you in the chat last night..did you watch the Gates segment
AYWalton: No I missed it. Hubby and I were visiting friends in Prince George's County. We did not get home till after 10 pm. I will watch it today probably.
vkn: private... I think it is still in existence
Selma: Ok...we are allowed a REAL life once a week.. LOL
AYWalton: vkn there were so many private schools in the 30s and 40s. So many have disappeared.
AYWalton: even into the 50s but they vanished. and now folks send children to the mostly white boarding schools which are still thriving. what a pity our own schools have closed. so many were quite good. I find their history to be so ingtriguing. Like Piney Woods, and Palmer Memorial and others
vkn: Wish I could recall name but that capacity has diminished but I think it was pre 30's AYW like the school I attended in Oxford NC Mary Potter Asademy
AYWalton: in Oklahoma there was Oak Hill, yes, Mary Potter
daviss: Mary Potter didnt they have several
AYWalton: plus most of the black colleges in the 10's 20s and 30s had preparatory schools. I wrote an article about them in an old blog post about a year or two ago.
vkn: Of course MaryPotter boys dorm is now a police station but the students reunion every year
AYWalton: VKN----I just found the Tougaloo school I had an ad for the school in my blog post!! take a look: http://myancestorsname.blogspot.com/search?q=boarding+schools it is the second image.
vkn: The Founder George Bernard Shaw was funded by Freedmens Bureau and Presbyterian Synod
daviss: I could have sworn I had an aunt who taught at a Mary Potter School in Texas
AYWalton: it was called Tougaloo Academy
vkn: oh really wonderful AYW you are on it
AYWalton: I wish there were more about such schools.
vkn: okay i will have to ask Barbara to fill me in we speaj periodically
daviss: who is Barbara vkn? Is that your roommate in college'
vkn: Her grandson has a scholarshio to the BFA program operated by Alonzo the world is small yes daviss
daviss: oh ok
vkn: I have the whole history of Mary Potter AYW and sister of Barnetta has gobs and gobs
daviss: AYWalton take a look at Mariah's Zepher lastest post
AYWalton: oh yes I will do that today, daviss!
vkn: She is national president of MPM reunion
AYWalton: vkn, is Mary Potter still around?
vkn: only the grounds ayw
Selma: Very nice Blog AY..knocked me out of the room send me the link daviss to your Blog Post..
AYWalton: really Selma? any buildings still standing there? where exactly is Potter?
Selma: Off topic..but just heard up date on John Edwards trial...so very, very seedy
AYWalton: oh what is the latest? to think----he might have been president. all thrown away, now.
Selma: Yes..my sister really liked him as a candidate.. shaking my head
vkn: In fact ayw it was second prez of MPM who denied tenur to Skip at Yale at leas his son Thomas herman Davis did tenure
Selma: I have to run for real now folks..have a great day.
AYWalton: well I had also better run. Have a wonderful day everyone.
daviss: ok see you all later
vkn: I have the MPM student directory in the AfriGeneas library
daviss: I will check it out vkn