2012-04-13 1940 Census Colored/Negro
Seventies Soulchild: Hi alt
alt: hey lady, how's friday the 13th going?
Seventies Soulchild: Pretty good. and yourself?
alt: I'll make it... I think LOL
Seventies Soulchild: Good! lol
alt: so talk to me... what's up?
Seventies Soulchild: I wish more was, but nothing Mr. Thomas... Going to VA to visit some folks next weekend.
alt: now that sounds exciting
Seventies Soulchild: I have procrastinated to some degree in doing my presentation.
alt: why procrastinate... just do it!!!
Seventies Soulchild: You know, its not only about the material presented but about the presentation artwork itself. And of course tying the information together.
alt: don't get hung up on the delivery... it's the message you're trying to convey
Seventies Soulchild: My cousin Lovie has yet to contact me. So I'm not sure of what's going on with that. I guess I'll wait until June to worry about that.
alt: right, don't start strokin until you hit the water LOL LOL
Seventies Soulchild: lol How did you enjoy Bernice's show last night? Did the speaker miss anything?
alt: I kept getting diconnected and I'm listening now.
Seventies Soulchild: Me too, I got long periods of silence... so I opened the feed in Media Player. I asked about records relating directly to the Great Migration and this guy was talking about records before 1850... sigh
alt: as I remember he really didn't get into areas of Ohio other than the Cleveland area... And I can't remember him saying anything about FPOC specifically
Seventies Soulchild: Right. You know, I'm going to presume that WPA records would be relevent to people who migrated to OH from the south, also railroad records and even employee records from big companies.
alt: I would think so.... for those who came to Ohio post WW I for work in the larger cities.
Seventies Soulchild: Right... Those are the kinds of answers and records I was expecting him to touch on in his response.
alt: I'm not much into Migration into Ohio as my folks had been there for so long a period of time.
AYWalton: good afternoon, all. howdy alt and SoulChile
alt: Hello AYWalton
Seventies Soulchild: Well also, last night I was looking over some WW II draft cards Hi AYWalton Upon further scrutiny of one St. Clairr Henyard, he lived in Steubenville, OH, but worked in West Virginia.
AYWalton: I see you are both talking about last night's program on Bernice's show.
Seventies Soulchild: Yes
alt: not unusal as Steubenville is right on the Ohio river across form WV.
AYWalton: one thing with BlogTalkRadio, sometimes the sound fades and you have to refresh. I think it is a buffering program sometimes.
Seventies Soulchild: Yes, one trick is to open up the feed in your default media player. works everytime.
AYWalton: buffering problem I meant to say. I did not have problems last night, though. I notice that one or two folks did, though.
alt: my reception was 'terrible' kept getting disconnected
AYWalton: I notice that sometimes on other programs as well.
Seventies Soulchild: ok let me grab a bite to eat. brb
AYWalton: the other option is just to call in and listen on the phone. You can put it on speaker and then hear it there. as long as you don't hit #1 you won't be in the queue to talk.
Khathu: hello everyone
AYWalton: howdy khathu!!!
alt: Hello Khathu... how's your "Buddy" the POTUS LOL
Khathu: He is keeping busy. He joined us for a conference call on Tuesday
AYWalton: you are schmoozing big time, huh Khathu?
Khathu: i guess it is my season
alt: milk it then Khathu LOL LOL
AYWalton: so what's on your genealogical agenda khathu?
Khathu: i'm trying alt AYWalton, I have been working on trying to figure out the connection between myself and a couple of individuals from 23andMe
AYWalton: that is a real challenge, khathu.
Khathu: in process I have been able to identify on of my gg grandaunts and her family
AYWalton: I have a few contacts, but they have done no family history--and know so little. Plus I don't wish to take their family history and do it for them. Sadly I don't think finding the connection is possible when they know so little. Hey there, Mizz Selma!!!
Khathu: well one of the individuals and myself have an .83% 3 segement match
alt: I hear ya AYWalton
Selma: Good afternoon everyone..alt, AY, Khathu and seventies
Khathu: which is pretty high I think
AYWalton: but without names and data overlapping----it might be hard to know only that. what was the predicted relationship?
alt: Hello Selma
Khathu: 4th Cousins but I don't think they have done much research so I just referred them to my website
Selma: Oops forgot about last night..how was it
AYWalton: with me it has been 3rd to 6th and predicted relationship was 4th. and with 4th cousins you share the same gr. gr. gr. grandparent.
Seventies Soulchild: Hi Khathu and selma
Khathu: Hello Selma
alt: I'm listening now Selma as we chat....
Selma: We had a meeting last night..
Khathu: My site is pretty comprehensive going back to all of my gggg grandparents
AYWalton: and I have the names of 4 of my 3rd great grands, but we have 32 gr. gr. gr. grandparents.
Selma: We had our laptops and Dru (who was exhausted) gave us a how to look on the 1940 census..
AYWalton: so what is the likelihood that you will be able to identify the right common ancestor? all 64 of them, khathu? wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alt: wonderful Selma I'm sure ProFDru did a great job.
Selma: We used the Steve Morse site..quite effective
Khathu: Correct 55 of them
Selma: I will have to send her flowers..she was tired, but I told her I know nothing.. LOL
AYWalton: yes it is effective, Selma. wow that was great that she did that.
Selma: She didn't want me talking bad about her.. LOL
AYWalton: you have identified 55 gr. gr. gr. gr. grandparents!! I am impressed, khathu!
Khathu: AYWalton it appears that they haven't done much research
AYWalton: and you threatened her with punishment I am sure. lol
Selma: Oh you know me well AY.. LOL
AYWalton: that is why you are "President for Life" lol
Selma: One interesting thing..or at least I found it interesting..
alt: me too Khathu !!!! I'm only up to about 40.... my paternal lines are my problem.. I have all 32 maternal w/siblings for most.
Seventies Soulchild: That took you over 25 years didn't it alt?
Khathu: my maternal line is my problem
alt: at least Seventies Soulchild
AYWalton: I only have 4 gr. gr. gr. grandparents out of 32 identified. And possibly 1 gr. gr. gr. gr. identified.
Selma: We took a look at some Newport News census..everyone was identified as Negro..
Khathu: it becomes dicy after the 3rd greats
Selma: Then one of our members..actually found her folks in a western VA county..
AYWalton: but most people have not identified more than 1 gr. gr. gr. grandparent.
Khathu: I am not complaining
AYWalton: that is wonderful.
Selma: that was exciting..as I was watching I noticed ..some folks were identified as "Col"..and some as "Negro".. Same census taker.
alt: Bernice's guest last night get into much Ohio history and records sets for FPOC.
AYWalton: yes I have seen them identified as B, C. and Neg. did or did not, alt?
Khathu: Those on my mother's side I doubt I will ever be able identify
alt: did not!!!!
Seventies Soulchild: He kept talking about records relevent to European descendants...
Khathu: I mean the 8 that I am missing
AYWalton: ah ok. I was wondering. well Bernice told him to keep it generic.
Selma: Have you determined if this is the opinion of the census taker?
alt: right Seventies Soulchild ..
Seventies Soulchild: But her show is specifically about African American genealogy, no??
alt: Instructions say to identify as Negro "Neg" Selma
Selma: Are there instructions for using the term "col"?
AYWalton: her show is specifically about National Archives Records. Her goal is to primarily showcase African Americans and their work.
Seventies Soulchild: Alright, any of you all find your Col, Mulatto relatives as white?
alt: not at the bottom of the form (census page) where it states what abbrev to use.
AYWalton: However she does get calls from non-African Americans who call and ask to be on the show.
Seventies Soulchild: Thanks for the clarification AYWalton
alt: yes thanks AYWalton
AYWalton: mine were too colorful (physically) to pass, SoulChile.
Seventies Soulchild: Most of mine too...
Selma: We didn't have time to analyse ..
Seventies Soulchild: But I was wondering if the census taker may have made a 'mistake'
Seventies Soulchild: hey vkn
alt: Hello vkn
Selma: Are you talking about what I just said seventies?
AYWalton: greetings, vkn!!!!
Khathu: Or as my grand aunt stated they weren't smart enough to pass
Seventies Soulchild: Kind of,
vkn: How y'all be >
Seventies Soulchild: ooops Khathu :}
alt: I "be's" okay vkn... you ???
Khathu: hello vkn
Selma: They were identified as Colored...so they weren't passing..we were just wondering why some folks were identified as "colored" and others as "negro"
vkn: fair to partly cloudy alt athu
AYWalton: I think that was a local thing.
alt: me too AYWalton ....
AYWalton: Kind of like during that time---we called ourselves both.
Seventies Soulchild: right
vkn: Howdy Selma
AYWalton: Colored and Negro (with the capital N)
vkn: Seventies Seventies Howdy How was the Bernice program last night
Selma: Does Who Do you think You are come on tonight
Seventies Soulchild: Its a rerun, I think Lionel ritchie
AYWalton: it was a good overview for Ohio and Michigan. Mostly generic data presented. but I learned what a Palatine was. lol
Seventies Soulchild: yes who knew?
Selma: There is a whole book Palatine's to America or series
AYWalton: yes I think that tonight is a rerun.
Selma: At my library
Khathu: well hopefully i will see everyone tonight
AYWalton: I have seen Palatine's at vendors table at large conferences as well.
Khathu: kha vha sale (go well)
vkn: Thanx AYW I will listen later
AYWalton: what sale?
Seventies Soulchild: lol
AYWalton: well going to run, folk. have a good afternoon.
Seventies Soulchild: Ok I'm off to finish my Cup O'Noodles.. Have a great day all.
Selma: Gotta go shoe shopping with my sister..see you all tonight..