2012-03-28 Anticipating 1940 Census
alt: just sitting here on the dock of the bay waiting for my friends to come by LOL LOL ...... where are ya friends? LOL
Daviss: heyyyy alt! lol here I am alt!!
alt: at last.... hello Daviss, was about to leave,..... how are you doing today?
Seventies Soulchild: Good afternoon alt and Daviss
Daviss: And where were you on your way partner??? You must have forgotten about CP time
alt: I missed Chat last night... how was it?
Daviss: hi there seventies
alt: Hello Seventies Soulchild
Daviss: Ha! Jonora and I had a silent ball..lol lol
Seventies Soulchild: ha I was out playing MegaMillions so I missed it too.. lol
alt: did you win? LOL
Daviss: 465 million on Fri I only had one number
alt: it only takes 1 ticket to win Daviss
Daviss: all I had was one ticket lol
alt: you didn't win, but you also didn't lose a lot LOL
Daviss: for sure alt
alt: hello AYWalton... how goes it?
Seventies Soulchild: Yep I had two plus the megaplier
Daviss: I can imagine the frenzy on Fri to get a ticket
Seventies Soulchild: It was crazy last night.
Daviss: that should get you about 50 bucks then seventies shouldn't it?
alt: I'm getting better AYWalton, thanks for asking
Seventies Soulchild: lol still in the poor house AYWalton Make sure you keep taking those vitamins and doing PT alt... we need to you keep giving us those great research tips. :}
alt: okay Seventies Soulchild .. thanks
Seventies Soulchild: Let me check on that Daviss
Daviss: JHonora shared with me last night that he found a bill of sale for his gggrandfather
AYWalton: oh wow that sounds interesting.
Daviss: I know he was about to jump out of his skin lol
alt: Seventies Soulchild. the photo with the tombstones in the background.... that was at the Dayton Nat'l Cemetery honoring the USCT's buried there, especailly the plaque dedicated to Joshua Dunbar, father of Paul Laurence Dunbar.... an escaped slave who returned from Canada to fight with the 54th Mass AND the 5th USCT Reg't.
Seventies Soulchild: wow... I was wondering about that. You spoke at an event there?
alt: wow!!!! great news on jhonora's discovery...
AYWalton: hope all is well in GA, Atlanta.
Daviss: yes, alt it was a slave traders receipt
AYWalton: how did he find it?
alt: did he say in what State the sale was made LA, GA or ????
AYWalton: and what year was the document?
Daviss: He said he knew the name of the plantation so while searching through the indices he spied it not sure of the year AYWalton
alt: wonderful... those 'hidden' treasures.
AYWalton: he must be thrilled! That is so exciting.
Daviss: you know it AYWalton, heck I was thrilled for him
alt: those kinds of finds bring out "goose bumps" & tears of joy
Daviss: I think the name of the plantation was Elmwood
Seventies Soulchild: wonderful
atlanta: panicville it was alt But now all is settling back to normal
alt: a question on the presenter/participant discussion ..... Would it be to our advantage to also put it on the AfriGeneas Discuss Forum ?.. we could then reach those who do not use FaceBook, Twitter and other social media
AYWalton: which discussion--you mean the email discussion of late?
atlanta: Now I can put my manners in play and say a respectful Goodday to alt aywalton Daviss and Seventies.
alt: AA presenter/ particiaption discussion
catrina703: Hello all!
AYWalton: I see alt.
atlanta: Thanx for the military posting Seventies and Hello Catrina
Daviss: hi catrina703! hows it going?
catrina703: I'm excited about the 1940 release on Monday
Daviss: lol so catrina do you have all your ducks in a row for the release?
catrina703: hope so
Daviss: ok atlanta I will check
alt: me too catrina703 .. I noticed somethign in an email today... will the release be on www.archives.com or www.archives .gov?
AYWalton: yes alt. archives.com is the site where the census will be released.
alt: which one .com or .gov ???
AYWalton: at 9 am east COM it is a private company not affiliated with .GOV but .COM is the site.
catrina703: told my boss not to expect too much work out of me that day, LOL
alt: Tom MacEntee stated on a blog www.archives.gov ..... must have been a typo.
Daviss: well I was given a sleeve tug the other day about my ED's.. I have had mine for about two or more weeks..
atlanta: alt I think it would be a good idea BUT I am cautioned by "not letting the left hand know what the right hand is doing"
AYWalton: I had mine---not sure where I put the data. Will find again. but will do a line by line search in my communities.
Daviss: Someone made me realize that mabe just mabe my mother was not where I thought she was and migrated to another city
alt: okay atlanta.. that's why I asked before putting anyhting out there, but isn't the cat already out of the bag with the FaceBook posting?
catrina703: no ever moves in my family so finding info will be easy
alt: hehehehehehe @ atlanta
Daviss: a big Uh Oh moment and I had to go find some addys in Harris County..
alt: good move Daviss
Daviss: I remembered my mother graduated from high school at Jack Yates in Houston and I was born in Houston so I used the HS as a starting point
atlanta: Well alt and all the discussion is of a high quality. I be loving me some Black people In house or Outhouse lol
alt: I'm curious as to where I will in 1940... could be with my parents in Springfield, Ohio or my grandparents in Piqua, Ohio.
atlanta: what is the ED problem daviss ???
Daviss: no problem atlanta just needed to expand my helm
AYWalton: how old were you in 1940, alt?
alt: I started school in Springfield (1939) got the chicken pox and was sent to g-parents house in Piqua and restared school there in 1940. I was 6 y/o in May of 1940 AYWalton
AYWalton: you would have been in the first grade then.
atlanta: AYWalton I was 12
AYWalton: were you in AL atlanta?
alt: I would think so AYWalton maybe even the 2nd, I graduated from HS at age 17.
atlanta: yes Calhoun County
AYWalton: how exciting to find oneself on the records.
alt: just turned 17 in May and graduated in June.
catrina703: very exciting
atlanta: yes Calhoun County Dad was deceased in 1939 so would show with widowed mother as HOH
AYWalton: would that be Anniston area?
catrina703: i'm hoping to track down some allied family
Seventies Soulchild: whew... I just came back from a quick stop and shop.. lol
alt: ah so atlanta, Calhoun Co., AL... my ex mother-in-law was born in Lincoln, Calhoun Co., AL in 1909.
AYWalton: that was quick, SoulChile.
Seventies Soulchild: yes got a pair of Kenny Coles for $10!
Daviss: I sure hope that the database stays up and not crash lol
Seventies Soulchild: Oh yes what are we down to 5 days now?
Daviss: so I will ask now lol will the chatroom be open lol lol lol
atlanta: Alt 1940 was the year the Anniston Ordinance Depot was being built at Bynum Ala and alt that was also the year that a mission was built by the OFM and interestingly BJ's father was one of the builders. Small world
alt: is that right atlanta, small world indeed!!!!
Seventies Soulchild: I will be out of MS for the 1940 census. looking forward to learning about the family who migrated.
AYWalton: What is ofm?
Seventies Soulchild: hi catrina703
catrina703: we're planning a family reunion in Aug, so I hope the 1940 census will help me add more folks to the invite hey Seventies
Seventies Soulchild: That would be wonderful catrina703
Daviss: where will the reunion be held catrina703?
atlanta: Many workers came from surrounding towns and so ayw my mother and her sisters opened up their homes and their tables to meet the need. Also alt the USO was built then and Jessie Owens and Ellen Terry were guests at our home.
Seventies Soulchild: wow atlanta! Now you are starting to sound like alt. :}
catrina703: hoping the separate the real cousins from the 'play' cousins, LOL
AYWalton: what is OFM?
atlanta: was also the year that the Womens Army Corps was initiated and housed alongside Ft Mccollum
Seventies Soulchild: lol some of the play cousins end up being real cousins if your family is like mine! lol
atlanta: Much history was made in those days with progress as well
alt: well alright then atlanta ...... I'm pretty good friends with Bro. Jesse Owens daughter's Gloria, Beverly & Marlene. how's that for name dropping Seventies Soulchild LOL
Daviss: atlanta what does the term OFM stand for?
Seventies Soulchild: lol you know I have to get you every time alt.
atlanta: OFM equals Franciscans AYW
catrina703: I think we have more 'outside' kids 'inside' kids, LOL
alt: Gloria & Marlene went to THE Ohio State Univ... mattter of fact Marlene was the Homecoming Queen at OSU.
Seventies Soulchild: Is that like Order of Franciscan Monks?
catrina703: I think we have more 'outside' kids than 'inside' kids,� �
Seventies Soulchild: But the family is from Alabama! :}
atlanta: all were non Black of course as were the Sisters so talking about upsetting the social order in Anniston
alt: I'll bet atlanta
AYWalton: Order of Friars Minor is their official designation, SoulChile.
atlanta: Yes seventies. We called them Old Fat Men lol
AYWalton: but they were Franciscan monks. lol that is too funny, atlanta
Seventies Soulchild: lol atlanta
AYWalton: are they the ones who make the brandy?
alt: LOL @ atlanta
Seventies Soulchild: oh okay
atlanta: They built Missons from Maine to Xalifornia Californis
alt: the west coast, huh atlanta LOL
Daviss: dang did you see Bobby Rush being reprimanded for wearing a Hoodie Wow!!
atlanta: Yes and the entire West Coast. The queen of the Missions is at Santa Barbara
Daviss: in Chambers
AYWalton: wow---things are getting crazy
Daviss: sorry off topic but couldn't help it
AYWalton: Junipero Serra's mission, atlanta?
atlanta: Well daviss there is now an official Hoodie Movement
Daviss: of course but why the banging of the gavel
alt: no problem Daviss, that case is developing more twist than a pretzel.
atlanta: Yes AYW he was the leader of the Mission movement.
Seventies Soulchild: well the police completely botched the case, the murderer is the son of a retired judge and lawyer (of course) and has a history of violent behavior. Three words: LOCK HIM UP! I'm done.
AYWalton: such a tragedy no question about that. Atlanta--were there mission schools in AL?
atlanta: and ayw the mission at Santa Barbara has his residence and all o f his artifacts on display. People come from miles to see
AYWalton: I see. Wasn't he elevated to some kind of stature in the Catholic church?
catrina703: thanks for the chat folks...see you next time & take care
Seventies Soulchild: AYWalton, you were raised Catholic?
atlanta: Every mass is filled to capacity 7 days a week
AYWalton: yep---with nuns and first communion and no-fish Fridays and all! lol
Seventies Soulchild: ok. You know so much about the Catholic church... lol I wish I knew an iota as much as you do about the Baptists.. I was raised Baptist
AYWalton: as was Atlanta, too.
Seventies Soulchild: I do know that Nannie Burroughs played a very large role in the church
AYWalton: Plus I found some amazing photos of Black Catholics in Arkansas on the Arkansas History Commisssion website.
Seventies Soulchild: Yes I read that link that you posted some time ago, AYWalton. It was a nice piece of history.
AYWalton: jhonora knows far more than I.
atlanta: Not that I am aware of ayw. Was always a Fr as far as I know There is folk lore of him, turning drowned Mexicans into Dolphins BUT thereby hangs a tale
AYWalton: there are so many more stories to tell, for sure.
Daviss: Burroughs one of my grands heroines Seventies..named a child after her
AYWalton: Oh SoulChile----you have reminded me!
Seventies Soulchild: really??
Daviss: Nannie Burroughs Daviss
AYWalton: I picked up a piece of memorabilia years ago at a Black Memorabilia show. It was a souvernir ashtray with a photo of a black man on it.
Seventies Soulchild: oh really?
AYWalton: it was some kind of anniversary of his church.
Seventies Soulchild: One of those glass ashtrays?
AYWalton: Because it was a nice image and cheap I bought it. no it was metal.
Seventies Soulchild: ok
AYWalton: Turns out he was the founding pastor and somebody big in the Baptist church.
Seventies Soulchild: My aunts are AME Zions and they have lots of great memorablia from their church.
AYWalton: about 5 years or so later---I don't even know why I bought the ash tray, I saw a poster on sale about early black Baptists church leaders. I looked at it, because it had at least 50 portraits of early Baptist leaders. and there was the man!!! the one on the ashtray!
Seventies Soulchild: That was a great find then.
AYWalton: plus photos of about 50 or more people---including women!
atlanta: WOW ayw
AYWalton: Black women who were early Baptist church leaders. I had to buy it as well. I have them both---and need to write about them, maybe in a blog.
Seventies Soulchild: You should.
AYWalton: I have ancestors who were Baptists ministers (none of them on the poster) so I found it intersting. and I probably need to research the man on the ash tray. and I never knew that there were prominent women in the church, either.
alt: A great book online w/photos of AME history..... Sons of Allen by Horace Talbert. about 700 pages.
AYWalton: Sons of Allen---yes i need to look at that.
Seventies Soulchild: ok alt, do you know why the AME and AME Zions split up?
atlanta: alt I will make a file of all the postings and upload for the group to decide to go open or remain closed
AYWalton: Oh---did anyone see the post about the man Spottswood Rice that Melvin put on Facebook?
Seventies Soulchild: Yes, when are you going to write about that AYWalton?
AYWalton: that was last week.
alt: okay atlanta. I'm waiting ...at your "command" LOL
AYWalton: Well guess what----he was also an AME minister.
Seventies Soulchild: wow! I know one thing, he didn't mince words! lol
Seventies Soulchild: I hope he didn't have to kill Ms. Kitty! lol
Daviss: AYWalton, I believe a friend of mine has a grandfather on that same poster
AYWalton: I will be writing about hiim in the next few days. really Daviss? find out his name for me and I will take a look at it.
Daviss: His name was CC Sommerville..
AYWalton: I have been looking for some way to use the poster.
atlanta: of SC Daviss?
AYWalton: looking right now, Daviss
Daviss: thanks AYWaalton
Seventies Soulchild: I am going to head out. Great discussion today. See you all on Friday? Though I may not watch.
Daviss: He also had a small newspaper
alt: later Seventies Soulchild
Daviss: ok Seventies
atlanta: oh ok Clint is in the Sommerville tree AYW and also from Adams Cnty MS Seventies
Daviss: could also be the same peeps atlanta
AYWalton: the poster is of teachers and preachers of the National Baptist Convention.
atlanta: Y'all be good as you be
AYWalton: I don't see Sommerville, Daviss
alt: later atlanta
Daviss: Ok thanks AYWalton
AYWalton: see ya SoulChile even Booker T Washington is on the photo.
Daviss: must be another poster
AYWalton: did not realize he was a Baptist. Women on the poster were Mrs. James P. Bryant and E.B. De Laney
Daviss: where were they loacated oops located
AYWalton: I have no idea. just gives their names and their portraits. but it is good to see their images though.
Daviss: thats for sure
alt: yes, photos are always great to see AYWalton
AYWalton: well I guess I will run, folks. have a good one.
Daviss: Its just me and you partner lol
alt: well, I guess we can close shop Daviss LOL
Daviss: ok well I will close it up take care
alt: okay, bye bye