2012-02-10 WDYTYA 2nd event
AYWalton: Looks like I am opening the door tonight! I get the best seat! Front row center!
bbenn: Hello aywalton!
AYWalton: Hey there!!! good to see you!
jhonora: Buona Sera!
AYWalton: hey hey hey, it's honora!!!!! I hope tihs week is a bit more flavorful.
jhonora: Hey AYWalton, Elyse, bben, buona sera!
AYWalton: Hello Elyse!!!
Elyse: Hello All
AYWalton: Is that Elyse Doerfinger
jhonora: This week involves an Italian murder, from what I understand
AYWalton: Greetings, vkn!!!!!!!!!! ah another Elyse, well welcome!!!!
bbenn: Hello Everyone!
Elyse: Thank you
vkn: Heyyyyyyyyyyyy AYWalton!!!!!!!!!!
AYWalton: and so it begins.....
fierybug08: Hello everyone!!!! I got home finally in time. lol
bbenn: I am looking forward to Blair's story.
AYWalton: so am I.
vkn: Hello bbenn
bbenn: Hii vkn lol
AYWalton: We will have to watch it next week in St. Louis over pizza, or something, bbenn.
vkn: Hello Elyse
bbenn: That's right!
vkn: hello Fierybug08
AYWalton: Ok I am not on top of celebrities---who is Jerome Bettis?
bbenn: Hello HistoryBuff and Elyse
HistoryBuff: Hey everyone
Elyse: A Football Player
AYWalton: welcome mavis!!
Khathu: Hello everyone
vkn: Hello Historybuff
fierybug08: *virtual wave* to everyone bbenn Elyse vkn AYWalton HistoryBuff mavisj Khathu jhonora
mavisj: Thanks Angela. Hello everyone
bbenn: How old is Marisa?
AYWalton: settling to watch...
jhonora: Hey vkn, buona sera
AYWalton: her dad has done research already on his side. good to see you mavisj
mavisj: Great both of my TVs are having issues tonight.
AYWalton: large family. hope you can hold on and watch the entire episode, mavisj.
vicjorob: Hi all
AYWalton: ahh she used Ancestry
vkn: what network please
vkn: thankee ayw
Khathu: she is using a tablet
AYWalton: everyone does these days.
keli1: Hello everyone!
AYWalton: the brother seems to be indifferent....
HistoryBuff: Hey Keli1. Good to see you.
AYWalton: hmm........ howdy Keli1
keli1: So it looks like this season will focus on two sides of a family, a little different than last season.
Khathu: she is acting or a better actor than her brother
AYWalton: good point, khathu pretty Mediterranean town interesting that they are starting at the cemetery?
fierybug08: interesting how they are all buried near an archive.
HistoryBuff: That's what I'm talking about cemeteries with archives.
fierybug08: or is it the cemetery has archived the people who have died.
AYWalton: lol and he puts his hand on it right away.
fierybug08: no computers in the room lol
HistoryBuff: There you go, Fiery on the spot.
AYWalton: and they are touching the document with bare hands.
bbenn: I suspect that they are touching copies.
jhonora: The cemetery looks just like those here
AYWalton: let's hope, but in Spain last week they were not. and IN many places in Europe they don't use gloves.
vicjorob: True, because these records would have been in bound books
fierybug08: well the iPad3 will be out next month. How many suckers are going to line up to get one?
AYWalton: don't we all wish that we could pull out an ipad and find our folks!!! lol I guess if somebody promised that my family secrets are hidden inside, fiery I would bite.
mavisj: I've actually been wanting an iPad. Just can
vkn: maybe me fiery
mavisj: Just can't justify it right now
AYWalton: I hear ya, mavisj
fierybug08: well...I bought a Mac Pro. I like it alright. It just gets some getting used to.
AYWalton: same here.
fierybug08: yeah....but some libraries let you borrow ereaders and iPads.
bbenn: same here.
vkn: everybody meet Elyse who will be volunteering with us
AYWalton: I am a keypad kinda soul, so sweeping the screen with my fingers will require getting used to.
fierybug08: Interesting if we could find a grant to buy iPads...to help with research. That would be greatt
bbenn: I just received a geneabloggers message, is Tom on right now?
AYWalton: and we are back............
Selma: Hello Elyse
AYWalton: Tom comes on at 9 pm EST, bbenn.
AYWalton: he is sending out his advertisement.
HistoryBuff: He Elyse.
mavisj: hey Elyse
Elyse: Hi All
AYWalton: maybe he was poisoned. Poison can make you sick.
Khathu: This is a good example of oral history
AYWalton: a photo on the grave!
Khathu: and using it as a guide
AYWalton: I didn't know they did that 100 years ago.
jhonora: Modern family in Italy must be caring for that grave, for it to have miniature pictures on it
AYWalton: and a yacht is just waiting for her!!!
Selma: Now that is a way to travel.. LOL
AYWalton: and both gr. grandparents photos.
fierybug08: sounds like an STD death to me.
Khathu: i have several ancestors who's picture are on their tombstone and they died in the late 1800s
AYWalton: I find it interesting that folks are not interested in all---I would have been just as excited to see Leopolo's wife as well.
AYWalton: wow amazing records.
vkn: interesting re photo on stone khathu
AYWalton: nothing like good old Catholic sacramental records.
bbenn: This show is definitely better than last week's episode.
HistoryBuff: Wow 200 year old registries
fierybug08: okay...wonder who holds the ledger...lol
jhonora: From parish records, like those shown, I took my Italian line back to the late 1600s. My great-great grandmother was Angelina Amirati/Amoretti
fierybug08: wow jhonora
AYWalton: amazing!!! I can believe that!
AYWalton: jhonora is that the line you presented about at Ft. Wayne?
bbenn: Jhonora, this is wonderful!
keli1: The luxury of being.....
HistoryBuff: Italians kept records.
jhonora: Yes, AY, I did the maternal line (which was of color), the dad's side was northern italian
AYWalton: indeed they did. ahhh ok, that's cool!
bbenn: I like the way she is asking herself questions....
AYWalton: hello hzl523
fierybug08: wow...that's all I can say. I'm so jealous
AYWalton: hey Nadasue.
Nadasue: Good evening, everyone!
fierybug08: @ bbeen I agree
hzl523: Hey- Its Ari Wilkins
AYWalton: again no gloves, but that looks like a copy.
HistoryBuff: Hey Hz1523 and Nadasue
fierybug08: Hi hzl523 Nadasue
AYWalton: Hey there, Ari!!
vkn: hzl523 heyyyyyyy Ari
hzl523: Hi Valencia! Hi Anglea!
AYWalton: good to see you!
Nadasue: Tried to stay away, but couldn't. :}
AYWalton: lol from Elba rcs, greetings!
keli1: I love hearing her asking questions and making assumptions
vkn: heyyyyyy rcs long time
AYWalton: now that is an original.
rcs: Greetings and salutations
HistoryBuff: Hey rcs.
AYWalton: no gloves!!
fierybug08: and its typed
hzl523: This no glove thing is driving me insane!
fierybug08: was it newspaper?
AYWalton: looks like a newspaper or publication of some kind.
keli1: it might not be the real thing they are showing, could be a copy....
vkn: rcs angela will soon be in your town
Khathu: Never become wedded to oral history
rcs: oh my
AYWalton: rcs---hey---yes I was just about to tell you. actually bbenn and I will both be there.
jhonora: AY, many of our archivists have gotten away from gloves. They make you wipe your fingers with alcohol wipes. Have you ever experience this elsewhere?
fierybug08: I don't know Khathu ...might could sell some historical fiction books...just change the names
AYWalton: I have never had that happen.
Khathu: I mean when doing research
AYWalton: there are natural oils in one's fingers, so I am quite suprised.
bbenn: I went to the Archives on Wednesday and had to use gloves.
AYWalton: it is the oil more than dust that damages documents.
Khathu: oral history should be used as a guide
fierybug08: yes AYWalton that's what I was thinking. And I have a bad habit of digging in my hair
hzl523: Thats what I was thinking Angela
vkn: That is new to me Jhonora
fierybug08: vkn...what's new?
rcs: my oral history was several times wrong
AYWalton: rcs, I will be at the St. Louis African American Genealogy annual conference at Harris Stowe next Saturday.
vkn: hey keli1 did not see you earlier
jhonora: It's part cost and part theory for many archives, even cheap white gloves are costly and they say now that the fabric can damage ink on paper
rcs: ll visit
mavisj: same here rcs
keli1: hello there vkn
rcs: maybe I will visit
fierybug08: hi keli1
AYWalton: I would think that latex gloves would be useful.
fierybug08: man...we need a roll call
AYWalton: Provided that one is not allergic to latex.
keli1: hi, who are you fierybug?
mavisj: but there are times when I've doubted the oral history and it's been on point.
Nadasue: I agree fierybug08
vkn: rcs you cannot afford to miss two of our ***Stars***
AYWalton: Angela in Baltimore, checking in. others can jump in....
bbenn: latex may create a little friction on fragile paper..cloth gloves are better..
Nadasue: Renate in Newport News, VA
vicjorob: Victoria from Alexandria VA
AYWalton: from where, mavis?
Nadasue: I've found there are usually "hints" in oral history, but it's rarely 100% correct
fierybug08: I'm Ge Ge from Maryland
Elyse: Elyse, McDonough, GA
bbenn: Bernice in Silver Spring
Khathu: Khathu from Washington, DC
AYWalton: ahhh so he was killed.
jhonora: Jari from New Orleans, La.
hzl523: sorry - Ari in Dallas. bad speller tonight!
AYWalton: killed on the spot.
Selma: So much for illness
AYWalton: well gunshots do make you sick. Permanently.
bbenn: Ok, he was shot in a duel...
vkn: bad bad ayw lol
bbenn: fighting over a woman !
AYWalton: a duel...amazing! somebody insulted someone else.
fierybug08: Prof is from Maryland...wow
AYWalton: ok a copy that's good.
Nadasue: AYWalton I always forget you are are in b-more. I always think of you in DC. Just got news that a family member was murdered there a few days ago.
AYWalton: still unknown. oh dear!! How tragic, Nadasue! insulted.
rcs: Well it is at least 10 minutes from my house to Harris Stowe
fierybug08: I'm sorry to hear that Nadasue.
AYWalton: and here come the details.
Nadasue: AYWalton Not someone I knew... very distant cousin. But I am the "historian" so everything is reported to me to put in the newsletter. I don't even know the family, but thanks, all.
mavisj: Sorry to hear about your family member Nadasue
AYWalton: that is still sad. Sorry to hear about the loss.
Nadasue: Thanks, Mav. Yes, it is, Angela. I googled it. It was street violence.
AYWalton: that is last year's event, rcs
rcs: oh no
fierybug08: talking to competitors...wanting to strike out on own
AYWalton: rcs that is the conference for this year. Hope you get to come by and spend some time. bbenn will also be there.
vkn: wb mavis
AYWalton: wb mavisj ari did you get bumped?
vkn: oh dear
HistoryBuff: wb you two.
AYWalton: she got bumped again, I think.
bbenn: see ya in St. Louis!
mavisj: thanks. I accidentally logged myself out
vkn: bbenn you will be in StLoMo ?
HistoryBuff: Thank you for the stl link AYWalton
hzl523: yes but I'm back
AYWalton: hzl523 will you be at Samford?
bbenn: Yes, I am giving a little talk.
rcs: Are you presenting or attending?
HistoryBuff: wb rcs
hzl523: No. The classes filled up too fast. What about you Angela?
AYWalton: yes I will be there this summer.
hzl523: Are you taking the AA course or something else?/
AYWalton: am teaching in the Afr. Am track and taking classes in the South track.
vkn: interesting about focus on face
bbenn: So, Bianci started the fight?
AYWalton: wow that was an intense fight for sure. she is lucky to find out all of these details of a murder 100 years ago!
hzl523: I really wanted to take the Maps Class or the Genealogy as a Profession class again. but they weren't doing either one of those classes this year.
bbenn: now, the truth is coming out
AYWalton: the Maps class was loads of fun, I took it last year. you are not going to be there at all?
hzl523: No, i hate it!
HistoryBuff: ancestral memory the ancestors spoke through her brother.
vkn: yes bbenn
rcs: I may get there -- I haven't been to any genealogy stuff for a while
hzl523: every year that I am not there - I go through withdrawl
keli1: oh my, he got off
bbenn: Wow, this is similar to my finding a 1907 article about my ggrandfather's murder in SC and then reading the inquest.
rcs: still looking for the flyer
AYWalton: interesting!!! he got off! noting like a good lawyer.
bbenn: self defense..
AYWalton: can get you away with murder.
fierybug08: okay...like OJ
keli1: money can buy them...
HistoryBuff: Oh he went there!
Nadasue: oh... they went there! lol
AYWalton: the lawyer must have been the Johnny Cochran of his day!
Nadasue: lol..... knock on wood, HistoryBuff !!!
bbenn: Good show with good solid research...
mavisj: One of my grandmother's first cousins was murdered and I've not been able to locate any information.
Nadasue: Where Mav?
mavisj: Walton County, GA
AYWalton: not the end of the story---he dared to ask for what?
jhonora: When was the murder?
AYWalton: I missed what he said?
mavisj: Happened back during the early 1900s
hzl523: i love it when they find new relatives!
fierybug08: looks like there was a child...
AYWalton: the man said something at the end that I did not understand.
bbenn: It is wonderful to meet a living relative you never knew existed. Somebody worked hard on this show!
fierybug08: a photo of a relative probably.
keli1: they didn't say yet, but making clearing his name and his families, etc...but declared in self defense, so interesting
vicjorob: AYWalton -- he said that this was not the end of the story
AYWalton: then he said something right after that, and she reacted. what did he say after "the end of the story..."
vkn: howdy nadia
fierybug08: well we have 15 more minutes
vicjorob: AYWalton I don;t know
AYWalton: greetings, Nadia!
fierybug08: Hi Nadia
HistoryBuff: Hey Nadia
mavisj: Hi Nadia
Nadia: Hey everyone! Better late than never...
bbenn: Hey Nadia
hzl523: I wish they had an after show follow up so we could get another hour!
HistoryBuff: Hey Elyse.
AYWalton: I hear ya!
hzl523: seems like there are less ancestry.com commercials than usual
AYWalton: good to see you Nadia!!
Nadia: Something about the story not being over because Marisa's ancestor said something during trial (I think)...hate commercial breaks, leave you hanging...
AYWalton: they have had a couple already, but not every commercial this time. ok back to the show.... so he wan'ts his change!!! lol wow!!
keli1: The man wants his money!
AYWalton: he gets away with murder and then wants his change!
HistoryBuff: Cold blooded
AYWalton: real men. hmm........
keli1: money and men!
fierybug08: that is dirty...killing a man in the back
AYWalton: he disappeared. true, in the back is not honorable.
Nadia: Like how she's analyzing the information, not being spoon-fed...
bbenn: cold blooded murderer!
HistoryBuff: She is truly analyzing.
Nadia: It's a process, Marisa!
bbenn: This is when she meets the relative! watch...
AYWalton: Ahhh a new relative!
keli1: oh go see the lady....
AYWalton: hand written!
Nadia: Lucky to have a heretofore unknown relative willing to share! Touching...
hzl523: i wonder if they will post the letter in its entirety on the site
AYWalton: how nice....
vkn: nice photo
hzl523: who was the boy they snuck away with the coat?
keli1: nice ending
AYWalton: so does Maris descend from the man who was killed or the second husband?
bbenn: she is good!
keli1: first husband, the one that was killed
vicjorob: hzl523 boy was grandfather
hzl523: thanks vicjorob
AYWalton: I like how this story did not go back 1000 years like they do on some folks.
hzl523: me too.
fierybug08: me too AYWalton
AYWalton: this one focused on something within a time frame that I can appreciate.
mavisj: me too Angela
rcs: they could have puled a generation or two from the church records
hzl523: i also like that they did not try to follow several different stories.
AYWalton: I agree with that.
bbenn: It was definitely eay to follow this story
vkn: keeping it clean
AYWalton: and the story was far more meaningful.
bbenn: yes, it was...
hzl523: but I guess thats the reality of genealogy is that not every line (person) can fill an hour time slot
Nadia: I guess it all depends on the person, their family, and what they're looking for.... I love how she can help answer these questions for her mom!
AYWalton: I agree.
hzl523: Me too!
fierybug08: yes....so true. Secrets we carry and don't know that we carry. I believe that....spiritually the trauma or not knowing our families affect future generations
Nadia: Very true...
bbenn: yes, a gift!
AYWalton: good episode, I think. This was much better!!
vkn: nice ending
hzl523: yes i liked that one
AYWalton: ahh so that's the secret!!!
AYWalton: Blair underwood finds a cousin!!!
Nadasue: Can't wait for this one!
hzl523: i really hope they do Blair Underwood justice.
bbenn: Is Blair on next week?
Khathu: good night
Elyse: Was nice sitting in with you all, enjoyed.
AYWalton: yes, we will have to watch it over pizza next week, bbenn.
vkn: anticipating Blair Underwood
Nadia: "What?" - Great episode, can't wait for next week! Nite all, and have a great weekend!
Nadasue: Back to indexing. Night all.
AYWalton: Well night all---off to Geneabloggers for some Post RootsTEch chatter.
mavisj: night all
bbenn: ok, pizza ..
AYWalton: Night all.
Elyse: Will be back another time, bye.
hzl523: good night guys! great chatting with you!
vkn: Niters to all