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2010-06-06

* SunMornBrunch

Start: 10:32:54
End: 12:48:11
Chatters: alt, AYWalton, deannie, jhonora, Khathu, Nadasue, Selma, Seventies Soulchild, Spivey, vicky, vkn

Seventies Soulchild: Good morning Jhonora BRB gonna go make some coffee.

jhonora: Good Morning Seventies!

Spivey: Good morning.

jhonora: Good Morning Spivey

Spivey: Good morning jhonora!

jhonora: brb

Spivey: Okay.

Seventies Soulchild: Hey Khathu

Khathu: good morning sunshines

Seventies Soulchild: lol good morning to you too. . .

Khathu: i was working on my step grandmother's genealogy last night

Seventies Soulchild: I'm in the middle of tearing up Black Agenda Report for the second time this week. Oh yeah? hows it coming along?

Khathu: i love the Black Agenda Report

Seventies Soulchild: I'm not so much in love with them. . .

Khathu: i am just doing the basic

Seventies Soulchild: They miss a lot of stuff.

Khathu: census, vital records, and social security death index

Seventies Soulchild: how far back have you gone so far?

Khathu: only to her great grandparents one can only do so much online

Seventies Soulchild: yeah

Khathu: the good thing is the family stayed in the same county for over 100 years

Seventies Soulchild: That is good. I've been thinking about some thing. Want to get your thoughts. My gg grandmother Dinah Brown-Rounds is living next to an Anthony Brown on the 1880 census up through. . . hi alt. . . 1900

alt: Hello Khathu & Seventies Soulchild

Khathu: morning alt

Seventies Soulchild: I'm thinking that this could be her brother or perhaps her father? in 1880 Dinah is 18 and Anthony is 36 However, I was told that she Dinah was raised by a Goins family.

Khathu: why do you think they are related outside of the same surname?

Nadasue: Good morning, friends

alt: hello Nadasue

Nadasue: hiya alt :)

Seventies Soulchild: Well because I've seen a pattern of family in this area living in close proximity to one another. hi Nadasue

Khathu: Hello Nadasue

Nadasue: My schedule has been off these last few weeks, so I haven't been able to make it in much. Hi 70's Khathu :)

Seventies Soulchild: They are right next door. glad to have you back

alt: Seventies Soulchild .. do you ever search the census for a surname in the same county/twp over a period of years on Ancestry?

Seventies Soulchild: Yes But Brown is very common

Khathu: are there any other similiarities out the same surname

Nadasue: Thanks, 70's. I'm multi-tasking, though (lol) so will be in and out. You guys discussing some Browns?

alt: Brown for example... in xyz twp./county 1870-1880 and then print out that listing for comaprisons

Seventies Soulchild: No just that they always lived very close no more than maybe 5 or 6 houses down.

Khathu: such birth place, birth place of parents

Seventies Soulchild: Not like that alt, no

alt: thattype of listing gives spouses & parents for a quick look. and birth years for all individuals

Seventies Soulchild: ok

alt: in one view

Seventies Soulchild: hi vkn

alt: hello vkn

Seventies Soulchild: brb

Nadasue: hi vkn

vkn: Good Morning each and all

alt: just a thought Seventies Soulchild, I use that procedure quite frequently

vkn: http://www.afrigeneas.com/forumc/index.cgi?page=1;md=read;id=32498 Check this out http://www.afrigeneas.com/forumc/index.cgi?page=1;md=read;id=32498

Nadasue: Nice, vkn. Are those your people?

alt: nice looking certificate

vkn: No juat a contri to AfriGenes

Seventies Soulchild: Thanks alt for the advice. that's a nice certificate

alt: is precious Photos still active vkn? yw Seventies Soulchild

Seventies Soulchild: I wonder if its the original?

Khathu: Hello Selma and vkn

Nadasue: Hi Selma :)

Seventies Soulchild: Hi Selma

Selma: Good Sunday morning everyone

Nadasue: A good one indeed!

alt: Hi Selma nice discussion last night on ag census and the link Ingrid gave us.

Selma: I left before she p;osted the link

Seventies Soulchild: that was, but nothing on Mississippi though :(

alt: I didn't save it either Selma, but it was a .gov lin on census information

Selma: Was the Texas AG census tied to Federal census..or was it a state census...

alt: it was a Federal Census from 1850-1900... at least that was what the link referenced.

Khathu: It was a Federal census

Selma: I couldn't remember last night when they started the AG census

Khathu: Texas never really had a state census

alt: this site said 1850, or was it 1860? morning vicky

Seventies Soulchild: thatwas quick... lol good morning vicky

vicky: hello

Nadasue: Hi Vicky :)

Selma: Good Sunday mornin vicky

vicky: lol hi there everyone!

Seventies Soulchild: ok you're having that weird computer thingie again. . .

vicky: its this heat lol trying to get up to 110 today

alt: WOW!!!! THAT'S HEAT!!

vicky: Is that Nadasue I see

Nadasue: LOL... Yes, ma'am! :) I gave my explanation above. :)

Seventies Soulchild: Wow...

vicky: I know alt. Its a good thing I dont have the type of computer where you all can see me now lol lol lol

alt: I see you LOL LOL

Nadasue: Schedule has just been a mess. Haven't been able to get in here.

Seventies Soulchild: I'm gripping over the 80 here... and it has gotten cooler since it rained last night... lol griping.

Selma: Its a scorcher here

vicky: heyyy deannie

deannie: Good morning

Seventies Soulchild: good morning deannie

alt: hello deannie

Seventies Soulchild: You know spivey and jhonora were in here earlier. I wonder if they are coming back?

Selma: Morning deannie

Khathu: hello deannie

Nadasue: Yep... really hot here already. Got out of my church clothes and don't plan to leave the house again until the evening!

vicky: grinning at my granddaughter..she only had one more credit for hs grad

Seventies Soulchild: I thought it was going to be a much cooler summer like we had last year. Alright Vicky! is she going to start taking college creds?

vicky: the way the news is saying it will be a rough summer. The ocean water in the pacific is really warm now she already has been seventies

Seventies Soulchild: And the water in the Atlantic is going to be FILTHY. gggrrrrr Ok good

vicky: yes, its sad seventies

Seventies Soulchild: they capped the pipe, but there is still oil getting into the Ocean.

vicky: cap still leaks

Seventies Soulchild: I guess we are now dealing with what so many other nations have been dealing with for years... oil pollution Talk about comeuppanance

Nadasue: Yes, unfortunate that it is happening and especially under the watch of our POTUS

vicky: alt, do you know that poster Ron Coddington

alt: no I don't vicky seems like he has a 'canned query' and just inserts different names for his postings

vicky: He must be writing a book or something. I see he is always looking for military info. Mabe he needs to get with Bennie

alt: and military units

vicky: right!

Seventies Soulchild: It seems like there have been a few folks coming on here looking for research info for books.

alt: I think Bennie said something like "I ain't writing his book for him, let him do his own research'.

Seventies Soulchild: lol I don't blame him for saying that alt

vicky: I hear ya..

AYWalton: Good morning all.

alt: Hello AYWalton

Nadasue: Hi Angela :)

Seventies Soulchild: good day AYWalton

AYWalton: Howdy alt, deannie, khathu, Nadasue, Ms. Selma, SoulChile, hey Ms. Vicky!

deannie: Morning Angela

vicky: I would be willing to bet he is closer to an archive than I am alt :?

Khathu: Hello AYWalton and vicky

AYWalton: hope everyone is doing well, today.

vicky: Hello Ms Ay!

alt: I won't take that bet vicky, you're probably right

Nadasue: And you too. I guess you know I was up your way yesterday, aywalton?

AYWalton: yes, you were apartment hunting, right? So who is the Ron person you are all referring to?

Nadasue: Yep... Well, mostly just scoping out different areas, but we did visit a few apartments.

AYWalton: Where did he post?

alt: hey Selma, you're being awfully quiet lately, whas up with that?

Nadasue: We drove by the Archives and the LOC, and I looked longingly... lol

vicky: he is always on the Military Forum AYWalton

AYWalton: ahhh ok.

vicky: Nadasue are you moving?

Nadasue: Nah, my daughter (the one who just graduated from college) will be working in the DC area. I was with her checking things out.

vicky: I see

Nadasue: We were looking in Alexandria, Arlington, and just a little in DC itself. She doesn't want to live in MD

alt: how do y'all like the color-coded post of 3rdthawkins on the surname froum... nice feature, huh?

Nadasue: Has anyone had the occasion to research or make inquiries about lodge records

vicky: I see lots of visits with daughter , Nadasue, close to the archives lol

Nadasue: Yes, Vicky. I made that clear to her yesterday! :)

vicky: yes alt is is nice.. do you mean like the Eks, masons etc nadasue

Nadasue: Yes, that kind of thing.

alt: a little Nadasue... and it depends on the 'lodge' or orgainzation... locally and/or nationally.

AYWalton: such organizations are usually secret societies so to speak---outsiders would have no access to their records.

Nadasue: Let me find my data so that I can ask a more intelligent question...lol... brb. Oh, aywalton, would that be true for records from teh 1800's?

AYWalton: I have no idea, Nadasue.

vicky: I talked to the Nat Eastern Star folks about my grgrands records. They could only verify that she was a member and gave me the addy of the Local person who was the person over the chapter

alt: right vicky.. that's about as far as they will fo on a personal level

vicky: Of course the letter I wrote came back. Those folks probably had been deceased since they early 50's yes alt, those are secret organizations

AYWalton: such organizations have never been a "source" of data, but one can always include in their narratives about an ancestor that he or she was active in the organization.

alt: Masons in particular... Elks & KP's also.

AYWalton: they certainly are not going to open their books to outsiders.

Nadasue: Oh, wow. Okay, for some reason I can't locate my document with the exact name and number of the lodge, but the issue I'm having is that, although I found this (years ago) with my ancestors names listed as members and officers, the particular lodge name is NOT listed in the historical records of the organization

AYWalton: Knights of Columbus, Knights of Pythias, Daughters of Dorcas, etc---they would not be a source of information. for those doing cemetery research----one can get an idea of how active they were by noting the various headstones of some of the members. Many of them have some unique stones.

vicky: When my great grandmother died she had an Insurance policy thru them for her burial and any leavings were to go to my great grandmother and my great aunt

AYWalton: Vicky was she a Mosaic Templar members?

vicky: oops grandmother I meant to say Yes

AYWalton: wow---that is great!

vicky: I was hoping to get some info from the application but no luck so far

alt: Frequently older newspapers have Fraternal News Section.... list memebrs, meeting dates, officers.. that type of stuff, but no 'real' organization business

AYWalton: you know the headquarters was in Little Rock, Arkansas.

Nadasue: Okay, couldn't find on computer right now (which has source info) but got out the printed hard copy....Lodge was Greenleaf Lodge #412 Louisburg, NC I printed from an online book some years ago. Lists meeting dates , officers, and Member

alt: is this a Prince Hall A.F. & M, lodge?

Nadasue: members

vicky: mabe I should call them in Little Rock. They may have more info. I talked to the person headquarted in Dallas

AYWalton: good information to put into your records.

Nadasue: Ummmm it doesn't say on here, ... unfortunately, back when I printed this, I wasn't a very good researcher and didn't note anything that wasn't on this page but since that time, I've gone to the lodge in Louisburg, and took a picture of the sign ( no one was there, and no response yet to calls).. and on the sign is does say A.F. & M.

vicky: I wish the address I had was not a RR addy Aywalton then mabe I could do a street view

Nadasue: and they even have a web site, but it is a different name and there is no mention in their history of this name or these members

AYWalton: it might not be an active lodge anymore. If there is a city directory, you might get some info.

vicky: It may have been a country addy in those days. What yr Nadasue

alt: Prince Hall Accepted & Free Masons

Nadasue: http://jamesajohnson413.ncmason.org/ Here is web site. They listed all of the historical names and years (active and inactive - awa the years active) but mine was not included There is no year on this page that I printed, but the ancestors of mine who were members were0's born in the 186 1860's

alt: that's nice Nadasue ... most chapters/lodges do not have websites... those 'older guys' are not that savy 'technically'

Nadasue: They are my grandfathers older brothers

Seventies Soulchild: ok I'm going to have to get going, got to finish up this laundry...

AYWalton: Only thing on the webpage is the seal?

vicky: Nada Sue do you have the certificate that they give them

Seventies Soulchild: Have a good day all\

AYWalton: later SoulChile?

Nadasue: No... let me see what I sent

alt: got company.. son is here from NJ later's y'all

vicky: bye alt

Nadasue: Hmmm... they must be revamping it. It says under construction. No they had all their history and links and stuff on it

vicky: intresting

Nadasue: I'm going to do a letter, since my calls haven't been returned. And I wll stop by again on my next trip to Louisburg. Grand Lodge dues paid were $9.80.. what does that mean?

deannie: bye have a nice day

AYWalton: I would save my energy, and just make the notations that an ancestor was a member. they are closed societies.

vicky: It means that that was the amy pd prolly for the year amount pd sheesh i cant spell

AYWalton: they might see your request as an annoyance, and an invasion of their privacy---and might not understand the genealogical nature of your inquiry.

vicky: 1860 did you say NadaSue

Nadasue: ahhh.... okay, thanks aywalton @vicky they were born in the 1860's

vicky: oh I misunderstood

AYWalton: And other than that they were members---nothing else will be forthcoming especially to an outsider.

Selma: Gotta run folks..have a great day... STAY OUT of the HEAT

Nadasue: Okay, thanks so much for the advice.:)

vicky: bye selma

AYWalton: she is right it is hot and steamy here, too. very very humid.

vicky: terrible here too AYWalton

Nadasue: I guess I'll be going too then. Hope you two have a great day!

AYWalton: you too.

vicky: you leaving us Nadasue oops

AYWalton: she's gone!

vicky: I see

AYWalton: guess it's just us, huh?

vicky: lol and its still early

AYWalton: hope she finds her ancestor----maybe a nice photo of the headstone will be nice to find. I know, I guess some folks went to church---or they slept in late. I still have to get a place to stay for Samford. Selma is not going after all. Her name never came off the waiting list.

vicky: awwww

AYWalton: I know.

vicky: I know she is very disappointed will you get a room on or off campus

AYWalton: Oh off campus. Can't take college dorms. Too old for that!

vicky: lol I hear ya better do that early if you haven't already.

AYWalton: quite true. I shall do it today.

vicky: others may have the same idea, You want one close by

AYWalton: Will go through Price Line. Yes one with a shuttle. Wonder where Jhonora is this morning.

vicky: dunno. he goes to early Mass Is he going

AYWalton: well, perhaps preparing for his family event.

vicky: oh yeah thats right well my friend, I guess we can leave now.

AYWalton: I suppose so. You have a great one. Take care.

vicky: gonna do some more newspaper reading


18 Dec 2002 :: 1 Feb 2009
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