Seventies Soulchild: Good morning Jhonora BRB gonna go make some coffee.
jhonora: Good Morning Seventies!
Spivey: Good morning.
jhonora: Good Morning Spivey
Spivey: Good morning jhonora!
Seventies Soulchild: Hey Khathu
Khathu: good morning sunshines
Seventies Soulchild: lol good morning to you too. . .
Khathu: i was working on my step grandmother's genealogy last night
Seventies Soulchild: I'm in the middle of tearing up Black Agenda Report for the second time this week. Oh yeah? hows it coming along?
Khathu: i love the Black Agenda Report
Seventies Soulchild: I'm not so much in love with them. . .
Khathu: i am just doing the basic
Seventies Soulchild: They miss a lot of stuff.
Khathu: census, vital records, and social security death index
Seventies Soulchild: how far back have you gone so far?
Khathu: only to her great grandparents one can only do so much online
Seventies Soulchild: yeah
Khathu: the good thing is the family stayed in the same county for over 100 years
Seventies Soulchild: That is good. I've been thinking about some thing. Want to get your thoughts. My gg grandmother Dinah Brown-Rounds is living next to an Anthony Brown on the 1880 census up through. . . hi alt. . . 1900
alt: Hello Khathu & Seventies Soulchild
Khathu: morning alt
Seventies Soulchild: I'm thinking that this could be her brother or perhaps her father? in 1880 Dinah is 18 and Anthony is 36 However, I was told that she Dinah was raised by a Goins family.
Khathu: why do you think they are related outside of the same surname?
Nadasue: Good morning, friends
alt: hello Nadasue
Nadasue: hiya alt
Seventies Soulchild: Well because I've seen a pattern of family in this area living in close proximity to one another. hi Nadasue
Khathu: Hello Nadasue
Nadasue: My schedule has been off these last few weeks, so I haven't been able to make it in much. Hi 70's Khathu
Seventies Soulchild: They are right next door. glad to have you back
alt: Seventies Soulchild .. do you ever search the census for a surname in the same county/twp over a period of years on Ancestry?
Seventies Soulchild: Yes But Brown is very common
Khathu: are there any other similiarities out the same surname
Nadasue: Thanks, 70's. I'm multi-tasking, though (lol) so will be in and out. You guys discussing some Browns?
alt: Brown for example... in xyz twp./county 1870-1880 and then print out that listing for comaprisons
Seventies Soulchild: No just that they always lived very close no more than maybe 5 or 6 houses down.
Khathu: such birth place, birth place of parents
Seventies Soulchild: Not like that alt, no
alt: thattype of listing gives spouses & parents for a quick look. and birth years for all individuals
Seventies Soulchild: ok
alt: in one view
Seventies Soulchild: hi vkn
alt: hello vkn
Seventies Soulchild: brb
Nadasue: hi vkn
vkn: Good Morning each and all
alt: just a thought Seventies Soulchild, I use that procedure quite frequently
Nadasue: Nice, vkn. Are those your people?
alt: nice looking certificate
vkn: No juat a contri to AfriGenes
Seventies Soulchild: Thanks alt for the advice. that's a nice certificate
alt: is precious Photos still active vkn? yw Seventies Soulchild
Seventies Soulchild: I wonder if its the original?
Khathu: Hello Selma and vkn
Nadasue: Hi Selma
Seventies Soulchild: Hi Selma
Selma: Good Sunday morning everyone
Nadasue: A good one indeed!
alt: Hi Selma nice discussion last night on ag census and the link Ingrid gave us.
Selma: I left before she p;osted the link
Seventies Soulchild: that was, but nothing on Mississippi though
alt: I didn't save it either Selma, but it was a .gov lin on census information
Selma: Was the Texas AG census tied to Federal census..or was it a state census...
alt: it was a Federal Census from 1850-1900... at least that was what the link referenced.
Khathu: It was a Federal census
Selma: I couldn't remember last night when they started the AG census
Khathu: Texas never really had a state census
alt: this site said 1850, or was it 1860? morning vicky
Seventies Soulchild: thatwas quick... lol good morning vicky
Nadasue: Hi Vicky
Selma: Good Sunday mornin vicky
vicky: lol hi there everyone!
Seventies Soulchild: ok you're having that weird computer thingie again. . .
vicky: its this heat lol trying to get up to 110 today
alt: WOW!!!! THAT'S HEAT!!
vicky: Is that Nadasue I see
Nadasue: LOL... Yes, ma'am! I gave my explanation above.
Seventies Soulchild: Wow...
vicky: I know alt. Its a good thing I dont have the type of computer where you all can see me now lol lol lol
alt: I see you LOL LOL
Nadasue: Schedule has just been a mess. Haven't been able to get in here.
Seventies Soulchild: I'm gripping over the 80 here... and it has gotten cooler since it rained last night... lol griping.
Selma: Its a scorcher here
vicky: heyyy deannie
deannie: Good morning
Seventies Soulchild: good morning deannie
alt: hello deannie
Seventies Soulchild: You know spivey and jhonora were in here earlier. I wonder if they are coming back?
Selma: Morning deannie
Khathu: hello deannie
Nadasue: Yep... really hot here already. Got out of my church clothes and don't plan to leave the house again until the evening!
vicky: grinning at my granddaughter..she only had one more credit for hs grad
Seventies Soulchild: I thought it was going to be a much cooler summer like we had last year. Alright Vicky! is she going to start taking college creds?
vicky: the way the news is saying it will be a rough summer. The ocean water in the pacific is really warm now she already has been seventies
Seventies Soulchild: And the water in the Atlantic is going to be FILTHY. gggrrrrr Ok good
vicky: yes, its sad seventies
Seventies Soulchild: they capped the pipe, but there is still oil getting into the Ocean.
vicky: cap still leaks
Seventies Soulchild: I guess we are now dealing with what so many other nations have been dealing with for years... oil pollution Talk about comeuppanance
Nadasue: Yes, unfortunate that it is happening and especially under the watch of our POTUS
vicky: alt, do you know that poster Ron Coddington
alt: no I don't vicky seems like he has a 'canned query' and just inserts different names for his postings
vicky: He must be writing a book or something. I see he is always looking for military info. Mabe he needs to get with Bennie
alt: and military units
Seventies Soulchild: It seems like there have been a few folks coming on here looking for research info for books.
alt: I think Bennie said something like "I ain't writing his book for him, let him do his own research'.
Seventies Soulchild: lol I don't blame him for saying that alt
vicky: I hear ya..
AYWalton: Good morning all.
alt: Hello AYWalton
Nadasue: Hi Angela
Seventies Soulchild: good day AYWalton
AYWalton: Howdy alt, deannie, khathu, Nadasue, Ms. Selma, SoulChile, hey Ms. Vicky!
deannie: Morning Angela
vicky: I would be willing to bet he is closer to an archive than I am alt :?
Khathu: Hello AYWalton and vicky
AYWalton: hope everyone is doing well, today.
vicky: Hello Ms Ay!
alt: I won't take that bet vicky, you're probably right
Nadasue: And you too. I guess you know I was up your way yesterday, aywalton?
AYWalton: yes, you were apartment hunting, right? So who is the Ron person you are all referring to?
Nadasue: Yep... Well, mostly just scoping out different areas, but we did visit a few apartments.
AYWalton: Where did he post?
alt: hey Selma, you're being awfully quiet lately, whas up with that?
Nadasue: We drove by the Archives and the LOC, and I looked longingly... lol
vicky: he is always on the Military Forum AYWalton
AYWalton: ahhh ok.
vicky: Nadasue are you moving?
Nadasue: Nah, my daughter (the one who just graduated from college) will be working in the DC area. I was with her checking things out.
vicky: I see
Nadasue: We were looking in Alexandria, Arlington, and just a little in DC itself. She doesn't want to live in MD
alt: how do y'all like the color-coded post of 3rdthawkins on the surname froum... nice feature, huh?
Nadasue: Has anyone had the occasion to research or make inquiries about lodge records
vicky: I see lots of visits with daughter , Nadasue, close to the archives lol
Nadasue: Yes, Vicky. I made that clear to her yesterday!
vicky: yes alt is is nice.. do you mean like the Eks, masons etc nadasue
Nadasue: Yes, that kind of thing.
alt: a little Nadasue... and it depends on the 'lodge' or orgainzation... locally and/or nationally.
AYWalton: such organizations are usually secret societies so to speak---outsiders would have no access to their records.
Nadasue: Let me find my data so that I can ask a more intelligent question...lol... brb. Oh, aywalton, would that be true for records from teh 1800's?
AYWalton: I have no idea, Nadasue.
vicky: I talked to the Nat Eastern Star folks about my grgrands records. They could only verify that she was a member and gave me the addy of the Local person who was the person over the chapter
alt: right vicky.. that's about as far as they will fo on a personal level
vicky: Of course the letter I wrote came back. Those folks probably had been deceased since they early 50's yes alt, those are secret organizations
AYWalton: such organizations have never been a "source" of data, but one can always include in their narratives about an ancestor that he or she was active in the organization.
alt: Masons in particular... Elks & KP's also.
AYWalton: they certainly are not going to open their books to outsiders.
Nadasue: Oh, wow. Okay, for some reason I can't locate my document with the exact name and number of the lodge, but the issue I'm having is that, although I found this (years ago) with my ancestors names listed as members and officers, the particular lodge name is NOT listed in the historical records of the organization
AYWalton: Knights of Columbus, Knights of Pythias, Daughters of Dorcas, etc---they would not be a source of information. for those doing cemetery research----one can get an idea of how active they were by noting the various headstones of some of the members. Many of them have some unique stones.
vicky: When my great grandmother died she had an Insurance policy thru them for her burial and any leavings were to go to my great grandmother and my great aunt
AYWalton: Vicky was she a Mosaic Templar members?
vicky: oops grandmother I meant to say Yes
AYWalton: wow---that is great!
vicky: I was hoping to get some info from the application but no luck so far
alt: Frequently older newspapers have Fraternal News Section.... list memebrs, meeting dates, officers.. that type of stuff, but no 'real' organization business
AYWalton: you know the headquarters was in Little Rock, Arkansas.
Nadasue: Okay, couldn't find on computer right now (which has source info) but got out the printed hard copy....Lodge was Greenleaf Lodge #412 Louisburg, NC I printed from an online book some years ago. Lists meeting dates , officers, and Member
alt: is this a Prince Hall A.F. & M, lodge?
vicky: mabe I should call them in Little Rock. They may have more info. I talked to the person headquarted in Dallas
AYWalton: good information to put into your records.
Nadasue: Ummmm it doesn't say on here, ... unfortunately, back when I printed this, I wasn't a very good researcher and didn't note anything that wasn't on this page but since that time, I've gone to the lodge in Louisburg, and took a picture of the sign ( no one was there, and no response yet to calls).. and on the sign is does say A.F. & M.
vicky: I wish the address I had was not a RR addy Aywalton then mabe I could do a street view
Nadasue: and they even have a web site, but it is a different name and there is no mention in their history of this name or these members
AYWalton: it might not be an active lodge anymore. If there is a city directory, you might get some info.
vicky: It may have been a country addy in those days. What yr Nadasue
alt: Prince Hall Accepted & Free Masons
Nadasue: http://jamesajohnson413.ncmason.org/ Here is web site. They listed all of the historical names and years (active and inactive - awa the years active) but mine was not included There is no year on this page that I printed, but the ancestors of mine who were members were0's born in the 186 1860's
alt: that's nice Nadasue ... most chapters/lodges do not have websites... those 'older guys' are not that savy 'technically'
Nadasue: They are my grandfathers older brothers
Seventies Soulchild: ok I'm going to have to get going, got to finish up this laundry...
AYWalton: Only thing on the webpage is the seal?
vicky: Nada Sue do you have the certificate that they give them
Seventies Soulchild: Have a good day all\
AYWalton: later SoulChile?
Nadasue: No... let me see what I sent
alt: got company.. son is here from NJ later's y'all
vicky: bye alt
Nadasue: Hmmm... they must be revamping it. It says under construction. No they had all their history and links and stuff on it
Nadasue: I'm going to do a letter, since my calls haven't been returned. And I wll stop by again on my next trip to Louisburg. Grand Lodge dues paid were $9.80.. what does that mean?
deannie: bye have a nice day
AYWalton: I would save my energy, and just make the notations that an ancestor was a member. they are closed societies.
vicky: It means that that was the amy pd prolly for the year amount pd sheesh i cant spell
AYWalton: they might see your request as an annoyance, and an invasion of their privacy---and might not understand the genealogical nature of your inquiry.
vicky: 1860 did you say NadaSue
Nadasue: ahhh.... okay, thanks aywalton @vicky they were born in the 1860's
vicky: oh I misunderstood
AYWalton: And other than that they were members---nothing else will be forthcoming especially to an outsider.
Selma: Gotta run folks..have a great day... STAY OUT of the HEAT
Nadasue: Okay, thanks so much for the advice.:)
vicky: bye selma
AYWalton: she is right it is hot and steamy here, too. very very humid.
vicky: terrible here too AYWalton
Nadasue: I guess I'll be going too then. Hope you two have a great day!
AYWalton: you too.
vicky: you leaving us Nadasue oops
AYWalton: she's gone!
vicky: I see
AYWalton: guess it's just us, huh?
vicky: lol and its still early
AYWalton: hope she finds her ancestor----maybe a nice photo of the headstone will be nice to find. I know, I guess some folks went to church---or they slept in late. I still have to get a place to stay for Samford. Selma is not going after all. Her name never came off the waiting list.
AYWalton: I know.
vicky: I know she is very disappointed will you get a room on or off campus
AYWalton: Oh off campus. Can't take college dorms. Too old for that!
vicky: lol I hear ya better do that early if you haven't already.
AYWalton: quite true. I shall do it today.
vicky: others may have the same idea, You want one close by
AYWalton: Will go through Price Line. Yes one with a shuttle. Wonder where Jhonora is this morning.
vicky: dunno. he goes to early Mass Is he going
AYWalton: well, perhaps preparing for his family event.
vicky: oh yeah thats right well my friend, I guess we can leave now.
AYWalton: I suppose so. You have a great one. Take care.
vicky: gonna do some more newspaper reading